Agreed -- Johnson and Garcon maybe as WR2-types, the rest borderline WR2-3 (assuming that is BMW and not Tampa Mike)...Wouldn't really love any of those guys as my wr1. Im just going bpa and trying to get as many elite guys as I can.
I don't disagree with your second sentence, but I think Brandon Lloyd is seriously undervalued this year. He finished as the #1 WR last season and barring an injury I think it's highly unlikely he finishes outside of the top ten next year with very capable Orton/Tebow throwing him the rock. Watch his highlights. Dude is good even though he's skinny and it took a long while for him to break out.Wouldn't really love any of those guys as my wr1. Im just going bpa and trying to get as many elite guys as I can.
I wouldn't go overboard with that it's unlikely that he finishes outside the top 10. He may be a value play at his current ADP of WR18, but I suspect that it will creep up during the preseason.I don't disagree with your second sentence, but I think Brandon Lloyd is seriously undervalued this year. He finished as the #1 WR last season and barring an injury I think it's highly unlikely he finishes outside of the top ten next year with very capable Orton/Tebow throwing him the rock. Watch his highlights. Dude is good even though he's skinny and it took a long while for him to break out.Wouldn't really love any of those guys as my wr1. Im just going bpa and trying to get as many elite guys as I can.
The best strategy is to get one of the top 6 or so WRs if you can get the WR in round 2....so you have a good solid WR1 option. Then I wouldn't worry about the WR2 position for a few rounds while you're getting your starting QB and depth at the RB position.After the elite WRs are gone that I agree the WR position is pretty deep.
I used to believe in drafting wrs early, but no more. Besides the fact that you can get wr #1s in the 5th and 6th rounds, every year tons of wrs come out of the free agent heap to become stud performers for major stretches of the year. Last year alone, I plucked Steve Johnson, Mike Williams, and Lance Moore off the scrap heap to see them have huge games. That is a lot tougher with qb, rb, and te. Plus, it is harder to predict success of the top wrs every year...what happens to Jennings if Finley and Nelson cut into his catches. Sure he will still be good, but worth a 2nd round pick when you could have just picked a every week starter qb like Brady or Manning?The best strategy is to get one of the top 6 or so WRs if you can get the WR in round 2....so you have a good solid WR1 option. Then I wouldn't worry about the WR2 position for a few rounds while you're getting your starting QB and depth at the RB position.After the elite WRs are gone that I agree the WR position is pretty deep.![]()
I see a huge dropoff after the top 6 WR particularily in PPR leagues and I want one of them.The best strategy is to get one of the top 6 or so WRs if you can get the WR in round 2....so you have a good solid WR1 option. Then I wouldn't worry about the WR2 position for a few rounds while you're getting your starting QB and depth at the RB position.After the elite WRs are gone that I agree the WR position is pretty deep.![]()
I disagree, there is a bigger turnaround in the RB top 15, than the WR top 15 every year. I'm a huge fan of the upside down draft this year because of the depth at receiver. Depending on value and league of course, I would go RB,QB,TE,WR,WR,WR,WR,QB,RB,RB,RB,RB,TE and a couple of fliers in redfraft PPR leagues. Get RBs like Hardesty, Carter, Murray, Jennings, Goodson with huge upside. Get elite talent at RB, QB and TE. That is the plan anyway, but usually something unexpected happensI used to believe in drafting wrs early, but no more. Besides the fact that you can get wr #1s in the 5th and 6th rounds, every year tons of wrs come out of the free agent heap to become stud performers for major stretches of the year. Last year alone, I plucked Steve Johnson, Mike Williams, and Lance Moore off the scrap heap to see them have huge games. That is a lot tougher with qb, rb, and te. Plus, it is harder to predict success of the top wrs every year...what happens to Jennings if Finley and Nelson cut into his catches. Sure he will still be good, but worth a 2nd round pick when you could have just picked a every week starter qb like Brady or Manning?The best strategy is to get one of the top 6 or so WRs if you can get the WR in round 2....so you have a good solid WR1 option. Then I wouldn't worry about the WR2 position for a few rounds while you're getting your starting QB and depth at the RB position.After the elite WRs are gone that I agree the WR position is pretty deep.![]()
Agree. you could wait for round 7 and grab Manningham who in my mind is going to have a huge season for himself.I don't want anything to do with Crabtree at the 5th or 6th round. I will not jump on that grenade for my league again for at least a year of him proving he gets it.
in non ppr maybe but no one plays standard.. In PPR Roddy was the number 1 WR...I don't disagree with your second sentence, but I think Brandon Lloyd is seriously undervalued this year. He finished as the #1 WR last season and barring an injury I think it's highly unlikely he finishes outside of the top ten next year with very capable Orton/Tebow throwing him the rock. Watch his highlights. Dude is good even though he's skinny and it took a long while for him to break out.Wouldn't really love any of those guys as my wr1. Im just going bpa and trying to get as many elite guys as I can.
Drafts are fluid. I wouldn't commit to any plan that involves drafting certain positions in certain rounds.
Dont we have this exact thread every year and every it seems the top 10 running backs are never the same but the top 10 wr's are?
Yeah.. there is always a team or three that makes an odd move in front of you and player you cant pass on falls to ya.. messing up your stragtegy.. so as with all battle/draft plans.. expect the unexpected...Drafts are fluid. I wouldn't commit to any plan that involves drafting certain positions in certain rounds.
roddy would be a better choice due to the bonus and I think its insanity to pick Vick in the first roundIn a start 10 team 2QB, 3RB, 4WR league with bonuses at 7 catches I am strongly considering taking Calvin Johnson at the #5 (presuming Vick and Foster are gone). Am I insane?
I guess my question is more about is it worth taking a WR that early in that type of format? (Vick is by far #1 QB because there is bonus for QB rushing yards as well).Last year 17 of the top 30 scorers in the league were WR (White, Bowe, Calvin top 3); 3RB, 9 QB, and 1TE.'pantherclub said:roddy would be a better choice due to the bonus and I think its insanity to pick Vick in the first round'Leeroy Jenkins said:In a start 10 team 2QB, 3RB, 4WR league with bonuses at 7 catches I am strongly considering taking Calvin Johnson at the #5 (presuming Vick and Foster are gone). Am I insane?
In a word No.WR 2010 PPR in my leagueDont we have this exact thread every year and every it seems the top 10 running backs are never the same but the top 10 wr's are?
With all due respect my league is not ppr, and Peterson/C Johnson are the only 2 RB's who have made the top 10 both years. I could see where the same RB's in a PPR would be at the top every year since it's obvious which ones are a bigger part of their team's passing offense, but in a non ppr it gets a little more tricky.Also, I don't really like to just use 2 years when considering consistency at either position. I looked up the last 4 years (2007-2010) of top tens in my league and found the following.In a word No.WR 2010 PPR in my leagueDont we have this exact thread every year and every it seems the top 10 running backs are never the same but the top 10 wr's are?
1. White
2. Lloyd
3. Bowe
4. Jennings
5. Wayne
6. Ca Johnson
7. Wallace
8. Andre Johnson
9. Nicks
10. Steve Johnson
Only 3(bold) of the above WRs were in the top 10 in my league in 2009.
By contrast 5 of the top 10 RBs were in the top 10 in both 2009(bold) and 2010
2010
1. Foster
2. McCoy
3. Hillis
4. Charles
5. Peterson
6. C Johnson
7. Rice
8. Mcfadden
9. Forte
10. Jackson