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If it were up to me I'd just take 'em both out back and shoot 'em.

Other than that, I see no reason that trade in unfair in the least.

 
So the guy who lost Stafford, just traded with his little brother... his little brother had Brady and Eli Manning. So he traded Eli for Reggie Bush. Reggie Bush was picked from FA a week or so ago.The guy who had Eli had these RBs:Turner, Benson, MBush, Ricky Williams...so its not like he needed an RB... plus this is a non-ppr league, we start only 2RBsalso, the guy with Eli is in 8th place, his brother in 4th. The guy in 4th had Fitzpatrick, then dropped him for Favre. So he did need a QB, but does this smell fishy?
I don't have a problem with it. If I had MBush and Ricky as backups, I'd want Bush too.
 
Eli is a QB2, and R.Bush (who should be coming back next week) is a RB2/3... seems fine to me...

 
It might be a slightly unbalanced trade, but not an unfair one. One guy clearly needs a QB and the other guy clearly needs a respectable RB2 (which Bush may or may not be when he comes back)

 
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emge said:
Eli is a QB2, and R.Bush (who should be coming back next week) is a RB2/3... seems fine to me...
A QB on pace for 4200/36 is a QB2?
Yeah Eli is having a great year. He's easily a QB1. And Bush in a non-ppr league, is nothing more than bench depth, especially in a 10 team league.
Eli Manning is 9th right now in FP/G, with Brady, Roethlisberger and Schaub all behind him.
 
It might be a slightly unbalanced trade, but not an unfair one. One guy clearly needs a QB and the other guy clearly needs a respectable RB2 (which Bush may or may not be when he comes back)
Funny how FBG has Benson (19), MBush(38), RickyWilliams(46) all ranked higher than Reggie (50).

 
Seems a little suspect. If I was commish, I'd ask how it helps each of their teams. If they could give a legit reason then by all means, let it go. Can't protect people from their own stupidity but it does seem a little suspect. Is the 8th place team completely out of the playoffs?

 
It might be a slightly unbalanced trade, but not an unfair one. One guy clearly needs a QB and the other guy clearly needs a respectable RB2 (which Bush may or may not be when he comes back)
Funny how FBG has Benson (19), MBush(38), RickyWilliams(46) all ranked higher than Reggie (50).
As soon as Reggie is ready to play, which looks like after his bye, he will be owned in most leagues. I wouldn't feel comfortable owning him or starting him, but many people will. I'm not here to argue. If you think it's unfair then so be it. I'm just giving my opinion. Unbalanced=yes....Unfair=no
 
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Not every trade has to be 100% "equivalent" for it to make sense. Nor does every trade that seems to favor one side over the other actually work out that way.

I'm glad our league doesn't allow voting on trades. We've had more than 30 trades since the preseason, and it's amazing how much people love managing their own teams the way they want.

 
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If Turner or Benson get dinged up, he needs to hedge his bets. The rankings really don't matter for these players in regards to Bush, Ricky, and Reggie. If Mcfadden, Ronnie, or Thomas get hurt or stay hurt, they each have RB1/2 value. He needs to hedge his bets against a Turner or Benson injury. Turner injury is somewhat likely. Honestly, I'd rather have Snelling than all of his backups, but that's another story...

It'll probably make the Brady owner feel better when Eli outscores Brady - he won't have ulcers from making the wrong lineup moves each week. :)

 
emge said:
Eli is a QB2, and R.Bush (who should be coming back next week) is a RB2/3... seems fine to me...
A QB on pace for 4200/36 is a QB2?
Yeah Eli is having a great year. He's easily a QB1. And Bush in a non-ppr league, is nothing more than bench depth, especially in a 10 team league.
Okay...but arguably so is Brady. Who do you think is more likely to get banged up - Turner, Benson or Brady?My point is, trading QB depth for RB depth isn't necessarily a bad idea.

I'd also like to address this whole "they're brothers" or "they're friends" = assumed collusion. In the real NFL, there are GMs who get along better and are more likely to make deals with each other. The same holds true in FF. In a league I'm in, there are a few teams I have never made a deal with. There are others I have made several deals with. It's not about collusion or even liking one owner more than others - sometimes it's just a comfort level thing. It's also likely that friends or family members talk more often about things - and FF comes up in the discussion.

 
emge said:
emge said:
Eli is a QB2, and R.Bush (who should be coming back next week) is a RB2/3... seems fine to me...
A QB on pace for 4200/36 is a QB2?
Yeah Eli is having a great year. He's easily a QB1. And Bush in a non-ppr league, is nothing more than bench depth, especially in a 10 team league.
My point is, trading QB depth for RB depth isn't necessarily a bad idea.
ok how about this. consider this guys are on the waiver wire or are free agents.Fred Jackson, Addai, Snelling, Hightower, Spiller, Portis, and every other possible back up RB

Also owners have 2 days to send a message to the commish when there's a pending trade if they have any concerns/questions about the trade. But the trade was offered, accepted and processed all within minutes, and no-emails were sent to all other owners.
It's a total BS trade. Eli is worth way more than a part-time, injury prone RB.
 
why do these threads pop up every other day??? Unless you think it was collusion (and have some sort of proof) then play on!!!

 
emge said:
emge said:
Eli is a QB2, and R.Bush (who should be coming back next week) is a RB2/3... seems fine to me...
A QB on pace for 4200/36 is a QB2?
Yeah Eli is having a great year. He's easily a QB1. And Bush in a non-ppr league, is nothing more than bench depth, especially in a 10 team league.
My point is, trading QB depth for RB depth isn't necessarily a bad idea.
ok how about this. consider this guys are on the waiver wire or are free agents.Fred Jackson, Addai, Snelling, Hightower, Spiller, Portis, and every other possible back up RB

Also owners have 2 days to send a message to the commish when there's a pending trade if they have any concerns/questions about the trade. But the trade was offered, accepted and processed all within minutes, and no-emails were sent to all other owners.
Stop the nonsense. If all of this was so vital to your initial point, why was it all left out until people started responding? Secondly, you'd really rather have those guys than Reggie Bush?

Also your rule (which hardly sounds like a rule, if the trade was allowed to go through without this "2 say grace period"), doesn't make sense. Either the league has the power/authority to veto trades or you do (either way, unless there is obvious collusion, it's a moot point. Having the league "voice concerns" is ludicrous - as if no one is biased or has a vested interest.

 
emge said:
Because I thought it was so obvious, that it was a shaddy trade, that i didn't have to explain anymore. Second, I rather have Eli than Bush or Brady.Third, the commish is the guy getting Eli, so he was able to process the trade right away.
Is everyone in here telling you it's a perfectly reasonable trade enough to change your mind?
 
Clear case of older brother bullying his little brother. My guess is the little brother doesn't care about fantasy football too much.

 
emge said:
Because I thought it was so obvious, that it was a shaddy trade, that i didn't have to explain anymore. Second, I rather have Eli than Bush or Brady.Third, the commish is the guy getting Eli, so he was able to process the trade right away.
I think this is a shaddy thread.
 
And who did you offer for Eli...............

Oh, that's right.........NOBODY.

Quit your #####en and start working deals man.

 
Eli is a starting QB is most leagues.

Bush is of lower value in a non-PPR league. You could argue Fred Jackson is > Bush. Addai is hurt. However, there aren't many no. 1 RB's this year with all the RBBCs so it is tough to figure out.

If 2 non-related parties made this trade, would you void it?

Could he have easily gotten more for Eli?

 
emge said:
Because I thought it was so obvious, that it was a shaddy trade, that i didn't have to explain anymore. Second, I rather have Eli than Bush or Brady.Third, the commish is the guy getting Eli, so he was able to process the trade right away.
Let the trade go through. Karma will take care of everything.Then next year find another league to join if you don't trust the commissioner.
 
So the guy who lost Stafford, just traded with his little brother... his little brother had Brady and Eli Manning. So he traded Eli for Reggie Bush. Reggie Bush was picked from FA a week or so ago.

The guy who had Eli had these RBs:

Turner, Benson, MBush, Ricky Williams...

so its not like he needed an RB... plus this is a NON-PPR league, we start only 2RBs

also, the guy with Eli is in 8th place, his brother in 4th. The guy in 4th had Fitzpatrick, then dropped him for Favre. So he did need a QB, but does this smell fishy?

Also consider these guys are on the waiver wire or are free agents.

Fred Jackson, Addai, Snelling, Hightower, Spiller, Portis, and every other possible handcuff RB
If I'm the guy who had Eli I'm thinking Turner is sucking it pretty badly, Mike Bush ain't starting again real soon, and the MIA run game has gone south of Cuba, Reggie's coming back and I still have a startable QB to roll with who might improve. If he's in 8th he might need to win the remainder of his games or almost all of them but he still has a shot to win if he can get his RB2 in shape. Makes sense to me.
 
guy admitted he didnt care anymore and was just trying to help his brother win. thread closed.
i call BS.
Me too...based on the fact that after everyone was against his reasoning, he started adding new info every few posts, yet still hadn't convinced anyone. Then one of the parties supposedly "prove him right" by admitting collusion, and all he can update us with is one sentence about it. Yeah Okay. :football:
 
emge said:
Because I thought it was so obvious, that it was a shaddy trade, that i didn't have to explain anymore. Second, I rather have Eli than Bush or Brady.Third, the commish is the guy getting Eli, so he was able to process the trade right away.
Let the trade go through. Karma will take care of everything.Then next year find another league to join if you don't trust the commissioner.
agree... karma is a whore
 
emge said:
Because I thought it was so obvious, that it was a shaddy trade, that i didn't have to explain anymore. Second, I rather have Eli than Bush or Brady.Third, the commish is the guy getting Eli, so he was able to process the trade right away.
Let the trade go through. Karma will take care of everything.Then next year find another league to join if you don't trust the commissioner.
agree... karma is a whore
:football: I agree. The trade had already gone through. I am not the commish and we dont vote on trades, So I just expressed my opinion by posting a message to the board. Karma is a biaaa.
 
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and thus we have another BS thead in the Shark Pool.

PLEASE JOE

either finally give in to having a Forum just for subscribers or add a Forum just for trade questions/review/etc

And/OR please have enough moderators on duty to clean up the Shark Pool and move threads to appropriate Forums or delete them

 
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