Yankees "on the brink" of getting Cliff Lee (1 Viewer)

[Giantseasonticketholder]

The Mets would feel it much more than the Yankees. The Yanks are bulletproof. A team in Brooklyn would dramatically hurt the Mets. If you to put a team in North Jersey, it would affect the Yankees to a certain degree, but nowhere near what a team in Brooklyn would do to the Mets.

I doubt that. Mets and Yankees both have core fans that are never going anywhere. At this point, there aren't many Mets fans beyond the die hards, cause the franchise sucks, the ownership sucks, the GM sucks and the manager sucks. The Yankees on the other hand are the trendy team, the bandwagon team. If you think back to the mid 80s, the distribution of fans in NYC was much more Mets heavy. Location of a new team would obviously be important to how it would impact the fanbase, but I have little doubt that the fanbase for the new team would be mainly from the bandwagon population, not either team's core fans.

The Yankees have been the "bandwagon" team for the majority of the last 2 decades...it ceases to become a "bandwagon" after a while. Do you know what they call a kid who grew up rooting for the Yankees and is now in his mid-20's? A Yankees fan!There are more Mets fans in Brooklyn than Yankees fans. The Mets would feel it much worse. Hope and pray that if MLB decides to put a team in this area, it's at the Meadowlands and not Brooklyn.

 

[dparker713]

The Mets would feel it much more than the Yankees. The Yanks are bulletproof. A team in Brooklyn would dramatically hurt the Mets. If you to put a team in North Jersey, it would affect the Yankees to a certain degree, but nowhere near what a team in Brooklyn would do to the Mets.

I doubt that. Mets and Yankees both have core fans that are never going anywhere. At this point, there aren't many Mets fans beyond the die hards, cause the franchise sucks, the ownership sucks, the GM sucks and the manager sucks. The Yankees on the other hand are the trendy team, the bandwagon team. If you think back to the mid 80s, the distribution of fans in NYC was much more Mets heavy. Location of a new team would obviously be important to how it would impact the fanbase, but I have little doubt that the fanbase for the new team would be mainly from the bandwagon population, not either team's core fans.

The Yankees have been the "bandwagon" team for the majority of the last 2 decades...it ceases to become a "bandwagon" after a while. Do you know what they call a kid who grew up rooting for the Yankees and is now in his mid-20's? A Yankees fan!There are more Mets fans in Brooklyn than Yankees fans. The Mets would feel it much worse. Hope and pray that if MLB decides to put a team in this area, it's at the Meadowlands and not Brooklyn.

The Mets were the cool team to root for about a decade, things change. Sure, some of those bandwagon fans will stick with the Yankees, but a large percentage of them wont. And I have no idea how you know there are more Mets fans in Brooklyn than Yankee fans.

 

[wilked]

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.j...sp&c_id=nym

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...0550392850.html

 

[Giantseasonticketholder]

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.j...sp&c_id=nym

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...0550392850.html

So Mets fan are out of work drunks who can't get enough sports talk radio...if you listen to WFAN in NY, you knew this already!If Jason Bay wants to win over the fans, he should start a Liver-replacement charity.

 

[Tom Servo]

Im hoping the Yanks offer Montero for Haren

Update?

 

[bentley]

i don't think putting another MLB team in the NY metro area would do much at all to damage the Yankees. They've got over a century worth of history and a massive fan base (both die-hard and bandwagon).

Plopping a brand new team down in Brooklyn would hardly put a dent in the Yankee machine. The area will still have the same amount of people (which means the same amount of households where the YES network is installed, and thats where all the $$ is coming from) and its not like millions of people are going to go from rooting for the Yankees to rooting for an expansion team. A team in CT makes even less sense (again, if your only objective is to hurt the Yankees) because you'd theoretically be pulling fans from the red sox as well.

A couple of things.* If you plopped an MLB team into Brooklyn in 2010, it wouldn't hurt the Yankees in 2011 but by 2015, 2020, you would see some shifted loyalties. Friends and I already were substituting going to Brooklyn Cyclones (Mets Class A affiliate) for going to see the Yankees or Mets. So another team would gradually, and ultimately, erode their leverage.

* Putting a team into CT: CT is basically divided, geographically, into Yankees and Red Sox camps. If you put the team more near NYC you'd disproportionately affect Yankees fans. But even if you drew off some Red Sox fans, I don't see that as a bad thing. Or you could choose some place in NJ. At the end of the day, the particulars aren't important just the idea that a lot of the Mets and Yankees revenue edge derive from their sharing of the New York market. The best way to dull that edge isn't to create something structural in the league that will be negotiated and loopholed around but rather a direct assault on the competitive advantage itself.

but again, most of the money is coming from the YES network. Sure another team in the area might eventually hurt the ratings a little bit (thus driving down ad revenue) but i seriously doubt that it would do anything to derail the yankee ATM machine any time soon (and again, I'm a yankee fan).Also, my guess is that the type of fans that would jump ship to a hypothetical Brooklyn team (which I'm still not convinced would ever happen in any sort of Yankee damaging numbers, because its the freaking Yankees. Would a 3rd NBA team in LA take away support from the Lakers? Would a 3rd soccer team in Manchester do anything to stop Manchester United from doing what they do?) aren't the type of fans that go to games anyway. So i doubt the Yankees see any drop in people coming through the gates either.

Let's not forget about FC United of Manchester.

 

[Michael Brown]

Im hoping the Yanks offer Montero for Haren

Update?

I'm pretty happy they didn't do that. Although in recent years, I've tended to want to keep a lot more of the home-grown guys than in the past. More fun rooting for guys like Hughes, Cano, Gardner than for Burnett, Teixeira, A-Rod.

 

[carverlee]

Wow, glad we didn't end up with this bum. The lowly O's just hammered him for 6 ER in his Texas debut.

I read this at the time and couldn't help but think about The Fox and the Grapes.

 

[Raider Nation]

Wow, glad we didn't end up with this bum. The lowly O's just hammered him for 6 ER in his Texas debut.

I read this at the time and couldn't help but think about The Fox and the Grapes.

Is it necessary for me to point out that I don't actually think he's a bum?