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####### Yellow Jackets in the ground... (1 Viewer)

Fat Nick

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So I have a MAJOR problem with yellow jackets. It's been bone-dry in Central NJ. I think we've had 1-2 rains in the last month. My yard is nice and crispy. The dry, hot weather has also seemed to bring with it yellow jacket nests. I guess they like the dry ground.

Last year I had 1 nest under a tree by my front door. A few weeks ago, I noticed that same nest was back, along with another spot where they were going up under my siding in the back in a corner. I was also doing some landscaping and when I went to remove a dead juniper bush, stirred up another nest that was deep under it. Didn't get stung fortunately. So I had 3 nests as of 2 weeks ago.

I bought a bee suit, and some "Delta Dust" which came highly recommended online. I waited till dark, and went out with clippers and a chainsaw to remove the Juniper. I got the juniper out, and then dusted the entrance, along with the other two nests. I never could find the hole for the one by the front door, so I just dusted liberally under there.

Fast forward a few days...The nest under the juniper is gone, along with the one in the corner under the siding. Took me 3+ applications of dust, and some over-the-counter spray. I was out in the yard Friday, noticing a lot of bees, so I started following them. There's another nest 5 feet from the Juniper under some ornamental grasses, the one by the front door is still going strong, there's another under a REALLY big boxwood right against the house.

Is anybody else having really bad bee issues this year? I'm open to suggestions on how to get rid of them. Let me say that given the location (typically under landscape plants) and proximity to the house, gas is not an option. Also, given the extended drought, our well water is starting to have a pretty strong sulfer smell and color, so I don't want to just turn a hose on them for hours and flood them out...so water is not an option.

Nest 1: Under Juniper Bush - Eradicated. Bush was dead. Cleared the bush, and applied Delta Dust and Consumer-level spray 3-4 times.

Nest 2: Under siding - Eradicated (I think). Applied Delta Dust and spray 2-3 times.

Nest 3: Under bush by front door - Still there. Challenge is that it's in a really tight corner, and I can't easily see where the bee hole is. Tried Delta Dust and spray 2-3 times over a broad area, with no impact.

Nest 4: Under some ornamental grass - Still there. Applied Dust and Spray 2-3 times...still there.

Nest 5: Under boxwood - still there...tried to apply Delta Dust, but the shrub is so big I can't get near where I think the hole is.

 
Well, yours sounds way worse than mine, but I went to Lowe's and found this wasp spray that said it was commercial strength. It came in spray and foam. I bought both. The cans literally had warnings on them saying it was against federal law to use the spray in any manner other than the instructions given. And the instructions were to use two short sprays or something. I figured it was more like a *wink* *wink* when they said that. I waited until night, then I emptied half of each can in the hole in the yard. The hole was about 12 inches in diameter and fairly deep.

The next day, I went out and emptied the remaining halves into the hole, then filled it with dirt. That solved the problem for me.

When I went out during the day for Phase II of "Operation Wink Wink", I had the spray can at the ready because it killed on contact. As I moved towards the hive, I began picking off the yellow jackets patrolling their airspace.

For my own safety, I also dressed as if it was -40 degrees outside.

 
I've had a problem with them over the years and I have poured boiling water down the hole and it seems to kill most if not all of them.Make sure to do this after the sun goes down to get as many of them as you can as possible.

 
Well, yours sounds way worse than mine, but I went to Lowe's and found this wasp spray that said it was commercial strength. It came in spray and foam. I bought both. The cans literally had warnings on them saying it was against federal law to use the spray in any manner other than the instructions given. And the instructions were to use two short sprays or something. I figured it was more like a *wink* *wink* when they said that. I waited until night, then I emptied half of each can in the hole in the yard. The hole was about 12 inches in diameter and fairly deep.

The next day, I went out and emptied the remaining halves into the hole, then filled it with dirt. That solved the problem for me.

When I went out during the day for Phase II of "Operation Wink Wink", I had the spray can at the ready because it killed on contact. As I moved towards the hive, I began picking off the yellow jackets patrolling their airspace.

For my own safety, I also dressed as if it was -40 degrees outside.
So I bought 4 cans of THIS from Lowes - Is this the same stuff you got? It's supposed to be for ground bees and it foams up. I can't say I've been overly impressed. If not, can you link to what you got?

My biggest challenge is that I can't visibly see the hole for any of the remaining nests. I think I'm going to have to bee-suit up and literally go DIGGING at night until I can find the hole(s). They're just so far under my hedges. The one under the Juniper was literally at the base of a 3' diameter hedge. If the Juniper wasn't dead, I'd have never been able to get to the middle.

Regardless of what anyone says, even in a bee suit, having a swarm of angry bees after you is terrifying.

 
Figures I couldn't get lucky and just have a hole in the yard. I'd pour gas on that and be done. I'm really trying to avoid digging under a bush where I know there's a bee's nest...I just envision me on my hands and knees in a bee suit at night.

The biggest worry is the face screen on the bee suit...it sort of relies on the screen staying away from your face. Having to shove my head under a bush would severely impact my ability to not have my face exposed.

 
I had yellow jackets come into my house multiple times this year. They are coming in thru the siding. I've had to spray three times this summer. I think i finally got them as i haven't seen them in three weeks.

 
I had yellow jackets come into my house multiple times this year. They are coming in thru the siding. I've had to spray three times this summer. I think i finally got them as i haven't seen them in three weeks.
I know nobody wants to call an exterminator but eventually i think you need to call one. Is it time for you?
I'm not ready to give up the fight quite yet...but I'm close. I'm far too stubborn to call people...but...if they start coming INSIDE the house, I'll have the exterminator on speed-dial.

I HATE bugs inside. I lived in an NYC apartment one summer, and screamed like a girl when a roach flew at me. There's just something different about them being outside, where I can suit up and go to war, vs. them attacking me in my underwear on the sofa.

 
Yeah nobody wants to spend the money on professionals but i think everyone reaches the point where the aggravation isn't worth it and let the professionals worry about it.

My wife was telling me to call one but i wanted to spray one more time before doing so. I think the last spray worked for us.

 
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Well, yours sounds way worse than mine, but I went to Lowe's and found this wasp spray that said it was commercial strength. It came in spray and foam. I bought both. The cans literally had warnings on them saying it was against federal law to use the spray in any manner other than the instructions given. And the instructions were to use two short sprays or something. I figured it was more like a *wink* *wink* when they said that. I waited until night, then I emptied half of each can in the hole in the yard. The hole was about 12 inches in diameter and fairly deep.

The next day, I went out and emptied the remaining halves into the hole, then filled it with dirt. That solved the problem for me.

When I went out during the day for Phase II of "Operation Wink Wink", I had the spray can at the ready because it killed on contact. As I moved towards the hive, I began picking off the yellow jackets patrolling their airspace.

For my own safety, I also dressed as if it was -40 degrees outside.
So I bought 4 cans of THIS from Lowes - Is this the same stuff you got? It's supposed to be for ground bees and it foams up. I can't say I've been overly impressed. If not, can you link to what you got?

My biggest challenge is that I can't visibly see the hole for any of the remaining nests. I think I'm going to have to bee-suit up and literally go DIGGING at night until I can find the hole(s). They're just so far under my hedges. The one under the Juniper was literally at the base of a 3' diameter hedge. If the Juniper wasn't dead, I'd have never been able to get to the middle.

Regardless of what anyone says, even in a bee suit, having a swarm of angry bees after you is terrifying.
go pro please

 
They are actually "Yellow Jackets" and most certainly not bees.

And they are the nastiest SOB's because those ####ers can sting multiple times... :scared:

 
They are actually "Yellow Jackets" and most certainly not bees.

And they are the nastiest SOB's because those ####ers can sting multiple times... :scared:
yep- they are technically a wasp, and they enjoy inflicting pain on humans.. bastards

 
Well, yours sounds way worse than mine, but I went to Lowe's and found this wasp spray that said it was commercial strength. It came in spray and foam. I bought both. The cans literally had warnings on them saying it was against federal law to use the spray in any manner other than the instructions given. And the instructions were to use two short sprays or something. I figured it was more like a *wink* *wink* when they said that. I waited until night, then I emptied half of each can in the hole in the yard. The hole was about 12 inches in diameter and fairly deep.

The next day, I went out and emptied the remaining halves into the hole, then filled it with dirt. That solved the problem for me.

When I went out during the day for Phase II of "Operation Wink Wink", I had the spray can at the ready because it killed on contact. As I moved towards the hive, I began picking off the yellow jackets patrolling their airspace.

For my own safety, I also dressed as if it was -40 degrees outside.
So I bought 4 cans of THIS from Lowes - Is this the same stuff you got? It's supposed to be for ground bees and it foams up. I can't say I've been overly impressed. If not, can you link to what you got?

My biggest challenge is that I can't visibly see the hole for any of the remaining nests. I think I'm going to have to bee-suit up and literally go DIGGING at night until I can find the hole(s). They're just so far under my hedges. The one under the Juniper was literally at the base of a 3' diameter hedge. If the Juniper wasn't dead, I'd have never been able to get to the middle.

Regardless of what anyone says, even in a bee suit, having a swarm of angry bees after you is terrifying.
That's the stuff. And I agree, the foam was not as foamy as I thought it would be. It was more sudsy. But I also used that same company's spray which seemed to work amazing.

I'm no expert in yellow jackets, but what happens if you just fill the hole? Can they really dig back out? Like I said, after I emptied two cans on that hole, I filled it with dirt and compacted it down with a tamper. I had feared they might be able to tunnel out, but after that day, no yellow jackets ever showed up in my yard again. Of course, they might just be regrouping for a major offensive in the spring. :shrug:

 
I know nobody wants to call an exterminator but eventually i think you need to call one. Is it time for you?
I mentioned it in my thread, but I'll say it again. I was ready to call a professional. In fact, I called a couple. The price was so outrageous I decided to do it on my own. I was thinking it would be like $75 for them to come out in a suit and kill them. Instead it was like $300! :shock:

 
I know nobody wants to call an exterminator but eventually i think you need to call one. Is it time for you?
I mentioned it in my thread, but I'll say it again. I was ready to call a professional. In fact, I called a couple. The price was so outrageous I decided to do it on my own. I was thinking it would be like $75 for them to come out in a suit and kill them. Instead it was like $300! :shock:
would you mess with angry wasps for less? haha

 
They are actually "Yellow Jackets" and most certainly not bees.

And they are the nastiest SOB's because those ####ers can sting multiple times... :scared:
yep- they are technically a wasp, and they enjoy inflicting pain on humans.. bastards
Around these here parts, folks tend to just call them "Yellowjacks." Go figure.

 
They are actually "Yellow Jackets" and most certainly not bees.

And they are the nastiest SOB's because those ####ers can sting multiple times... :scared:
yep- they are technically a wasp, and they enjoy inflicting pain on humans.. bastards
Around these here parts, folks tend to just call them "Yellowjacks." Go figure.
I call them yellow jackets.. or ##### bags! they tried to build a nest in my grill last year..

 
I know nobody wants to call an exterminator but eventually i think you need to call one. Is it time for you?
I mentioned it in my thread, but I'll say it again. I was ready to call a professional. In fact, I called a couple. The price was so outrageous I decided to do it on my own. I was thinking it would be like $75 for them to come out in a suit and kill them. Instead it was like $300! :shock:
My neighbor had a few last year and was quoted $50 to show up, and then $200 for the first nest, $100 for each add'l. For me with 3 nests, that'd be $400.

My biggest issues is not being able to determine the entrance to use the Delta Dust. I think I may try this Cypermethrin stuff. You can use it in low pressure broadcast sprayers. It's supposed to be really good for general treatment and prevention. I figure if I can use a broadcast sprayer, and buy in bulk, I can just blanket-treat under the hedges and hopefully be done.

If that doesn't work, I'll have to look into the pro's....I know I should probably do that...but I'm just such a stubborn "I can do it..." type person. To a fault and beyond. Stay tuned for the "I got stung by bees and am in the hospital" thread. Hopefully not...but maybe.

 
They are actually "Yellow Jackets" and most certainly not bees.

And they are the nastiest SOB's because those ####ers can sting multiple times... :scared:
yep- they are technically a wasp, and they enjoy inflicting pain on humans.. bastards
Around these here parts, folks tend to just call them "Yellowjacks." Go figure.
They are called yellow jackets. But a yellow jacket is a type of wasp. I learned this after being stung by a bunch and researching them.

 
They are actually "Yellow Jackets" and most certainly not bees.

And they are the nastiest SOB's because those ####ers can sting multiple times... :scared:
yep- they are technically a wasp, and they enjoy inflicting pain on humans.. bastards
Around these here parts, folks tend to just call them "Yellowjacks." Go figure.
They are called yellow jackets. But a yellow jacket is a type of wasp. I learned this after being stung by a bunch and researching them.
:goodposting:

Apparently they are also referred to as "Meat Bees."

I really don't like that phrase.

 
They are actually "Yellow Jackets" and most certainly not bees.

And they are the nastiest SOB's because those ####ers can sting multiple times... :scared:
yep- they are technically a wasp, and they enjoy inflicting pain on humans.. bastards
Around these here parts, folks tend to just call them "Yellowjacks." Go figure.
They are called yellow jackets. But a yellow jacket is a type of wasp. I learned this after being stung by a bunch and researching them.
:goodposting:

Apparently they are also referred to as "Meat Bees."

I really don't like that phrase.
is that a stinger in your abdomen or are you just happy to see me

 
I know this will take time and may not solve the problem, but you could put a big dent in the population. Who knows? Maybe if you killed enough adults, the nest would die out.

DIY yellow jacket trap.

 
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One of my friends has a side job as a bee farmer. He's had dozens of "bee boxes" that he rents out to farmers (to pollinate their crops) and also harvests a few hundred gallons of honey every year. But this year, all the boxes were infested with yellow jackets -- when the yellow jackets can't find food (they eat meat, not nectar), they invade honey bee hives, kill the drones, eat the larvae, and steal the honey.

 
Try to find a spray loaded w Pyrethrin

that guy on TV swears by it... the white trash guy from VexCon. Seems to kill everything.

 
One of my friends has a side job as a bee farmer. He's had dozens of "bee boxes" that he rents out to farmers (to pollinate their crops) and also harvests a few hundred gallons of honey every year. But this year, all the boxes were infested with yellow jackets -- when the yellow jackets can't find food (they eat meat, not nectar), they invade honey bee hives, kill the drones, eat the larvae, and steal the honey.
f'n thugs :rant:

 
I look forward to the day when a tiny robot can deliver a tiny nuke into the heart of the nest. We just don't have that capability... Yet.

 
One of my friends has a side job as a bee farmer. He's had dozens of "bee boxes" that he rents out to farmers (to pollinate their crops) and also harvests a few hundred gallons of honey every year. But this year, all the boxes were infested with yellow jackets -- when the yellow jackets can't find food (they eat meat, not nectar), they invade honey bee hives, kill the drones, eat the larvae, and steal the honey.
f'n thugs :rant:
#HoneyBeesLivesMatter

 
Try to find a spray loaded w Pyrethrin

that guy on TV swears by it... the white trash guy from VexCon. Seems to kill everything.
That's what I got...Cyper TC. I think Cypermethrin is basically a synthetic Pyrethrin. Supposedly very toxic to bees, and most bugs with very little impact on anything else. Suitable for pump spraying, and one jug makes MANY treatments. I read a few people saying that if you know where the nest is, just mix up a quart and dump the whole thing down the hole. If not, just put it in your pressure sprayer and spray the whole area.

Seems to be really effective on termites, ants, and ticks too. Added bonus.

If it works well, I'll probably just start spraying quarterly in the summer to prevent the bees from coming back.

 

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