You Make The Call (1 Viewer)

[Challenge Everything]

When you have this situation is it not the unwritten baseball rule to use the next batter to bunt and move the runners over? This is simple baseball... what the hell. Move the runners over and open up the sacrifice fly as well as remove the double play option. Geez!!

Ned Yost is stupid. I would be willing to bet Yost has cost the Brewers more than a few games this year.

Come on Cordero... start pitching again.

 

[[scooter]]

Double-steal.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Not to mention the following inning Fielder gets a single and Yost uses a pinch hitter for the pitcher. In comes Weeks and, what the hell do you know, he bunts it to the pitcher thus moving the runner to second with 1 out. Had he done that the inning before the Crew would have had runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Maybe Yost just figured that Aaron Sele really sucks and was going to blow the game anyway.

 

[The Man from Laramie]

could the guy at the plate bunt? It is a bit of a lost art.

My father always gets really pissed when a guy can't bunt. Feels its something a professional should be able to do well everytime.

While I agree in part, given the infrequency of situations where a bunt is actually useful, it's understandable that guys get rusty.

 

[wilked]

Depends who is up

 

[BRONG]

could the guy at the plate bunt? It is a bit of a lost art.

My father always gets really pissed when a guy can't bunt. Feels its something a professional should be able to do well everytime.

While I agree in part, given the infrequency of situations where a bunt is actually useful, it's understandable that guys get rusty.

Uh, no it's not.

 

[Green94]

Depends who is up

 

[Keys Myaths]

The run expectancy is nearly identical for runners at 1st and 2nd with nobody out (1.4827) and runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out (1.46154). Given the fact that, even in the top of the 11th inning, any scoring is much better than risking no scoring and going for the big inning--I think a bunt is automatic for anyone except maybe the top ten OBP guys in baseball.

 

[Greco]

You bunt (period, end of story). Next...

If you have runners on second and third with NO outs in the bottomof the 10th, why wouldn't you squeeze??? worst case you have one out and runners on third.

 

[Keys Myaths]

You bunt(period, end of story).

Even though I agree that bunting is the right play, these kind of "OMG UR STUPID FOR THINKNG BOUT IT" generalizations are what made baseball so inefficient in the first place.

 

[Greco]

You bunt(period, end of story).

Even though I agree that bunting is the right play, these kind of "OMG UR STUPID FOR THINKNG BOUT IT" generalizations are what made baseball so inefficient in the first place.

Not sure I follow you. Dumb this down for me, please. TIA.

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

Id steal home straight from second, kick dirt in everyone's face and scream very loudly.

 

[Workhorse]

The run expectancy is nearly identical for runners at 1st and 2nd with nobody out (1.4827) and runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out (1.46154). Given the fact that, even in the top of the 11th inning, any scoring is much better than risking no scoring and going for the big inning--I think a bunt is automatic for anyone except maybe the top ten OBP guys in baseball.

Tough to do run expectancy overall for runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and have it apply to this specific game situation since in this case, the defense would pretty much be forced to play the infield in -- That almost always leads to a higher liklihood of a groundball hit through the infield. My guess is that the run expectancy in this case is higher than what you posted.

 

[Klecker]

There are a few problems with the original post. Jenkins singles, as does Hart (Jenkins to second). J.J. Hardy does bunt, but the Mets cut down Jenkins at third. (The bunt was up the first base line and Delgado was able to make the play.) Hart on second, Hardy on first, one out, Ryan Braun (1.051 OPS) at the plate. Braun ends up grounding into a double play to end the inning.

 

[Night Hawks]

Id steal home straight from second, kick dirt in everyone's face and scream very loudly.

That'd be awesome.

 

[Keys Myaths]

The run expectancy is nearly identical for runners at 1st and 2nd with nobody out (1.4827) and runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out (1.46154). Given the fact that, even in the top of the 11th inning, any scoring is much better than risking no scoring and going for the big inning--I think a bunt is automatic for anyone except maybe the top ten OBP guys in baseball.

Tough to do run expectancy overall for runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and have it apply to this specific game situation since in this case, the defense would pretty much be forced to play the infield in -- That almost always leads to a higher liklihood of a groundball hit through the infield. My guess is that the run expectancy in this case is higher than what you posted.

Actually, that just adds to my point. Since the run expectancy is SO close, and I'm arguing for the bunt, the situation you described adds to the 2nd and 3rd/1 out situation. There's just so many factors going for that, it blows 1st and 2nd out of the water.

 

[Greco]

The run expectancy is nearly identical for runners at 1st and 2nd with nobody out (1.4827) and runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out (1.46154). Given the fact that, even in the top of the 11th inning, any scoring is much better than risking no scoring and going for the big inning--I think a bunt is automatic for anyone except maybe the top ten OBP guys in baseball.

Tough to do run expectancy overall for runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and have it apply to this specific game situation since in this case, the defense would pretty much be forced to play the infield in -- That almost always leads to a higher liklihood of a groundball hit through the infield. My guess is that the run expectancy in this case is higher than what you posted.

Actually, that just adds to my point. Since the run expectancy is SO close, and I'm arguing for the bunt, the situation you described adds to the 2nd and 3rd/1 out situation. There's just so many factors going for that, it blows 1st and 2nd out of the water.

Yep. There is absolutely no other play than to bunt...

 

[Keys Myaths]

The run expectancy is nearly identical for runners at 1st and 2nd with nobody out (1.4827) and runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out (1.46154). Given the fact that, even in the top of the 11th inning, any scoring is much better than risking no scoring and going for the big inning--I think a bunt is automatic for anyone except maybe the top ten OBP guys in baseball.

Tough to do run expectancy overall for runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and have it apply to this specific game situation since in this case, the defense would pretty much be forced to play the infield in -- That almost always leads to a higher liklihood of a groundball hit through the infield. My guess is that the run expectancy in this case is higher than what you posted.

Actually, that just adds to my point. Since the run expectancy is SO close, and I'm arguing for the bunt, the situation you described adds to the 2nd and 3rd/1 out situation. There's just so many factors going for that, it blows 1st and 2nd out of the water.

Yep. There is absolutely no other play than to bunt...

Correct.My point earlier, though, is that I just like to challenge conventional wisdom. It's fun for me, and it's effective, because it's so often wrong.In this particular case, though, it just happened to be true.

 

[Workhorse]

The run expectancy is nearly identical for runners at 1st and 2nd with nobody out (1.4827) and runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out (1.46154). Given the fact that, even in the top of the 11th inning, any scoring is much better than risking no scoring and going for the big inning--I think a bunt is automatic for anyone except maybe the top ten OBP guys in baseball.

Tough to do run expectancy overall for runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and have it apply to this specific game situation since in this case, the defense would pretty much be forced to play the infield in -- That almost always leads to a higher liklihood of a groundball hit through the infield. My guess is that the run expectancy in this case is higher than what you posted.

Actually, that just adds to my point. Since the run expectancy is SO close, and I'm arguing for the bunt, the situation you described adds to the 2nd and 3rd/1 out situation. There's just so many factors going for that, it blows 1st and 2nd out of the water.

Oh, I agree. I'm saying that the bunt is a NO BRAINER.