Your updated top ten rb's (1 Viewer)

[evilempire]

Here is my reasoning. MJD had 212 touches last season. The next lowest number for a top 10 RB last season was Betts, who was RB10 and had 298 touches. The top 10 RBs other than MJD averaged 378 touches. Also, only 5 RBs had more TDs than MJD.So, basically, he had a flukishly good season in terms of production per touch. I expect him to have lower ypc than 5.7 and lower ypr than 9.5, perhaps significantly lower in one or both. And I expect him to have fewer TDs.I do expect him to have more touches, but not a lot more... not more than 250. Given that, I am not confident that he can again put up top 10 RB numbers.

:X

And don't forget that Greg Jones is back, so the goal line touches for MJD will go down appreciably as well.

Yeah. MJD had more gaolline TDs last year than G Jones has in his entire career. MJD will be the GL back again this year while Jones will be the blocking FULLBACK. MJD will be around the top 10, but he might not sneak in.

Purely because Jones wasn't healthy all year. Had he been around, MJD would have gotten about half the touches he received last year.

Redraft, PPR1. LT2. Stephen Jackson3. Larry Johnson (though with trepidation as the contract situation scares me)4. Westbrook5. Gore6. Addai7. Willie Parker8. Reggie Bush9. Ronnie Brown10. McGaheeJust missing -- Rudi Johnson, Alexander, Maroney

 

[AnonymousBob]

Here is my reasoning. MJD had 212 touches last season. The next lowest number for a top 10 RB last season was Betts, who was RB10 and had 298 touches. The top 10 RBs other than MJD averaged 378 touches. Also, only 5 RBs had more TDs than MJD.So, basically, he had a flukishly good season in terms of production per touch. I expect him to have lower ypc than 5.7 and lower ypr than 9.5, perhaps significantly lower in one or both. And I expect him to have fewer TDs.I do expect him to have more touches, but not a lot more... not more than 250. Given that, I am not confident that he can again put up top 10 RB numbers.

:X

And don't forget that Greg Jones is back, so the goal line touches for MJD will go down appreciably as well.

Yeah. MJD had more gaolline TDs last year than G Jones has in his entire career. MJD will be the GL back again this year while Jones will be the blocking FULLBACK. MJD will be around the top 10, but he might not sneak in.

Purely because Jones wasn't healthy all year. Had he been around, MJD would have gotten about half the touches he received last year.

Whether or not Jones would have received the carries, MJD shone when given the opportunity. While I don't believe he will as effective as he was last season, I can't think of any reason the coaches will not continue giving him a fair amount of work. Greg Jones is the fullback. That's it.

 

[Otis]

1. Frank Gore

Wow.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Here is my reasoning. MJD had 212 touches last season. The next lowest number for a top 10 RB last season was Betts, who was RB10 and had 298 touches. The top 10 RBs other than MJD averaged 378 touches. Also, only 5 RBs had more TDs than MJD.

So, basically, he had a flukishly good season in terms of production per touch. I expect him to have lower ypc than 5.7 and lower ypr than 9.5, perhaps significantly lower in one or both. And I expect him to have fewer TDs.

I do expect him to have more touches, but not a lot more... not more than 250. Given that, I am not confident that he can again put up top 10 RB numbers.

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And don't forget that Greg Jones is back, so the goal line touches for MJD will go down appreciably as well.

Yeah. MJD had more gaolline TDs last year than G Jones has in his entire career. MJD will be the GL back again this year while Jones will be the blocking FULLBACK. MJD will be around the top 10, but he might not sneak in.

Purely because Jones wasn't healthy all year. Had he been around, MJD would have gotten about half the touches he received last year.

 

[JAMMIN]

I would love to see someone in my league draft Henry before SJAX, Gore or LJ. I think people are just throwing things out there so they can refer back to this next year for props.

1. LT2

2. SJAX

3. Gore

4. LJ

5. SA

6. Parker

7. Westbrook

8. Addai

9. Rudi

10. Hoping I have my RB1 already.

 

[obxlegends]

LOTS of love here for Travis Henry.

I don't know.....is he expected to remain on the field on third downs with more than 3 to go?

I am actually quite surprised to see him in just about everybody's top 10 with comments like "I have a hard time seeing how he wont be top 10". Seriously, when was the last time Denver had a stud RB? Dont get me wrong I got him 11th but I cant find a single guy in my top 10 to bounce to put Henry in. Im not saying he wont be good but I dont think its as much a lock as everybody is making it out to be.

Let look at rushing #s for Denver over the years from 2006 and backused this site for my #s

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/

2006

T. Bell- 233 atts., 1025 yards, 2 TDs

M. Bell- 157 Atts, 657 yards, 8 TDs

2005

Anderson- 239 carr, 1014 yards, 12 TDs- #9 FF RB that year

Bell- 173 carr, 921 yards, 8 TDs

2004

Droughns-245 carr, 1240 yards, 241 rec yards, 8 total TDs

2003

Portis- 290 carr, 1591, 14 TDs

2002

Portis- 273 carr, 1508 yards, 15 TDs

2001

Davis- 167 carr, 701 yards, year he got hurt

2000

Anderson- 297 carr, 1487 yards, 15 TDs

1999

O. Gary- 276 carr, 1159 yards, 7 TDs

1995, 1996, 1997 and 1998 was Davis in his Prime

RBBC was in 2005, 2006 but Anderson was still a solid #2 RB in 2005 and T. Bell was a good Flex play in 2005

Let me just say I'm not a Travis Henry hater or apologist. I however think a lot of people are naive on this board who believe Henry will be a Top 10 back on Denver's system alone. I'm not saying he won't be, but for sure it's not a product of the system with Henry. With Plummer you had a mobile QB. With his mobility (bootlegs, etc) he was able to keep your back end DE's at bay for a second longer to allow for that famous one cutback scheme to be at it's most effective. Plummer also used a lot of ghost reverses and other "tricks" to help out the running game. Cutler isn't the same QB. He's more of a pure drop back passer. This eliminates a good portion of what Denver liked to do with Plummer over the last few years. Once again, this isn't saying Henry won't be productive. He'll just have to do it in a different way.

Plummer played his first year for the Broncos in 2003. The Denver rushing attack did just fine before he was there and it will do a great job after he's gone.

I never said that Henry wouldn't be successful in Denver. He obviously ran for over 1,200 yards with the Titans. I just know there is a huge segment of FF owners who believe that you can plug any RB into Denver's system and they will be successful. Griese also was adept at some of the things Plummer did that Cutler can't (or hasn't shown) do.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

First off this thread was useless without stateing type of league and scoreing. They flop around acordingly after top 2 IMO.

Straight redraft basic scoreing no PPR.

1. LT

2. SJ (FIRST 2 PICKS ARE NO BRAINERS) After that it gets more interesting by the day!

3. GORE

4. SA (he could easily get back to where he was a year ago this year if his foot holds up)

5. ADDIA

6. LJ (Theres gonna be a lot of dissapointed LJ owners out there this year. This COULD BE still too hi but where I have him ranked FOR NOW!

7. Westbrook Would move up in PPR

8. Parker

9. Henery

10.Jacobs

Use this list if you want to your win your league!

 

[((Morpheus))]

First off this thread was useless without stateing type of league and scoreing. They flop around acordingly after top 2 IMO. Straight redraft basic scoreing no PPR. 1. LT 2. SJ (FIRST 2 PICKS ARE NO BRAINERS) After that it gets more interesting by the day! 3. GORE4. SA (he could easily get back to where he was a year ago this year if his foot holds up)5. ADDIA6. LJ (Theres gonna be a lot of dissapointed LJ owners out there this year. This COULD BE still too hi but where I have him ranked FOR NOW! 7. Westbrook Would move up in PPR8. Parker9. Henery10.JacobsUse this list if you want to your win your league!

I don't recognize some of those names...

 

[Mr. Fusion]

1. LT

2. S Jax

3. Gore

4. LJ

5. Westbrook

6. FWP

7. Alexander

8. Addai

9. Rudi

10. Henry

 

[((Morpheus))]

PPR:

LT

SJ

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Addai

Westy

Gore

Bush

LJ

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SA

Parker

Maroney

 

[Neo]

Training camp bump.

 

[thehornet]

why are people saying the first 2 picks are no brainers. I'll give you LT, fine. I agree.

BUt with LJ on the verge of signing - he definately can be the #2. EASILY.

 

[3nOut]

I find it funny that people spend so much time ranking "The Top Ten RBs" when you only get to pick one of those guys and the person you pick (redraft) is pretty much decided for you based on what draft pick you get.

I agree, a more useful discussion would be re-evaluating RBs 12-24. The RB2 is what can make or break your season.

 

[3nOut]

First off this thread was useless without stateing type of league and scoreing. They flop around acordingly after top 2 IMO.

Straight redraft basic scoreing no PPR.

1. LT

2. SJ (FIRST 2 PICKS ARE NO BRAINERS) After that it gets more interesting by the day!

3. GORE

4. SA (he could easily get back to where he was a year ago this year if his foot holds up)

5. ADDIA

6. LJ (Theres gonna be a lot of dissapointed LJ owners out there this year. This COULD BE still too hi but where I have him ranked FOR NOW!

7. Westbrook Would move up in PPR

8. Parker

9. Henery

10.Jacobs

Use this list if you want to your win your league!

I like Jacobs this year too but I still have concerns. And top 10?

 

[switz]

Tomlinson

Jackson

Gore

Portis

Addai

Henry

Bush

Parker

Johnson

McGahee

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

1. LT

2. SJ

3. Parker

4. Henry

5. Addai

6. Gore

7. Alexander

8. Maroney

9. Rudi Johnson

10. Larry Johnson

Note: I have a feeling about Larry Johnson, or maybe more accurately about the Chiefs. I think they are this year's version of the 2006 Oakland Raiders. A team with a lot of holes that doesn't have any "special" talent; it could get ugly in KC this year.

 

[Construction Man Jim]

1. LaDainian Tomlinson

2. Stephen Jackson

3. Travis Henry

4. Brandon Jacobs

5. Frank Gore

6. Willie Parker

7. Reggie Bush

8. Brian Westbrook

9. Joesph Addai

10. Larry Johnson

 

[skillz]

1. LT

2. S-Jax

3. Addai

4. LJ

5. Alexander

6. Henry

7. Westbrook

8. Gore

9. Maroney

10. Parker

 

[Blackjacks]

Okay I'll play1) LT- #1 overall in every draft....nough said2) S. Jackson- Good offensive line and a good offense around him to keep things balanced. He is closer to #1 than #3 in my mind.3) T. Henry- I'm sorry I'm drinking the Kool Aid. He is a very good rb in a great system without competition.4) McGahee- Again going against the grain alittle but I think he is a great talent wh landed in a very favorable spot.5) Westbrook- As long as McNabb is healthy Westbrook will be a great all around back. Love the combo scoring he gives you.6) Benson- Great Oline, great defense and bad qb.....someone has to score. I really like Benson this year.7) W. Parker- I still think he is to small and not tough enough but I'm alittle more of a believer than last year.8) J. Addai- Great offense but he'll always to the 2nd or third option. I don't think he'll ever have high td totals.9) C. Portis- I think his health will be fine and he is dominating when healthy in a great run first offense (had him #2 last year preseason)10) T. Jones- The Jets are going to run the ball and Jones is extremely underrated as a runner. He'll surprise this year.Everyone on this list is "the guy" in the backfield except for maybe Portis and I think he will be.Surprisingly missed: LJ (not touching him this year), Gore (not a fan, is really gonna see the effect of losing Turner), Alexander (to old and the offensive line isn't what it use to be), Rudi Johnson (has been very steady but the loss of Steinbach is really going to hurt the running game for the Bungles), Bush and McCallister (too much headaches with touches....both very good though.)Guys just outsied of the top ten: I really like Ronnie Brown this year. He has a run first coach and a great skill set.Ahman Green is going to surprise people this year, I see him having atleast 60 catches.L. Maroney, if nothing was ever said about his shoulder he would have been my #10 or higher instead of T. Jones. As long as he stay healthy the sky is the limit.I know this looks alittle different than the Norm and I'm sure I'll take some shots but I'm just sharing my opinons.I like to do my rankings based on offensive lines and oppurtunities.

I'm gonna change my top ten alittle a week and a half before the season starts1 LT2 S-Jax3 Westbrook (the healthier McNabb is the better Westy is and McNabb looks to be okay)4 Addai5 Henry (injury scares me alittle but that's it)6 W. Parker7 Alexander (teams has looked pretty good so far, still scared about some things there)8 Maroney (special talent. If he stays healthy watch out)9 Rudi Johnson (boring pick but he is good. Cinncy's line looks okay without Steinbach, I thought they's look worse.)10 McGahee (hasn't shown anything yet but I have a feeling he is going to be very good in Balt)Fell off my original list: Benson, T. Jones and Portis. Injuries for 2 out of three and Benson just hasn't really shown me much. I still like his outlook for the season but looks boring so far. I will say I think Bush has looked very good so far and he will be sitting @ 11 for me, then Gore @ #12, Ronnie Brown @#13, Benson @#14 and LJ @ #15. I don't like LJ this year but I will say having Huard @ qb will help him alittle and I also thought he would miss a couple of games, due tot he holdoout, which now looks like he won't.

 

[E-Z Glider]

I will say I think Bush has looked very good so far and he will be sitting @ 11 for me, then Gore @ #12,

You can forget about those guys at #11 and #12.

 

[Blackjacks]

I will say I think Bush has looked very good so far and he will be sitting @ 11 for me, then Gore @ #12,

You can forget about those guys at #11 and #12.

Just my opinions

 

[YoUnG GuNz]

1. Tomlinson

2. Jackson

3. Gore

4. Addai

5. Westbrook

6. Johnson

7. Alexander

8. Parker

9. Henry

10. Maroney

 

[Aaronbigdog13]

1. Tomlinson

2. Jackson

3. Alexander

4. Johnson

5. Henry

6. Gore

7. Addai

8. Parker

9. Rudi Johnson

10. Maroney

 

[gianmarco]

I'm sorry, but LJ at #15 is absurd. Unless you're predicting an injury, I don't think that's remotely possible. There are few certainties in FF, but if LJ plays in at least 14 games this year, he will easily finish higher than 15.

 

[Blackjacks]

I'm sorry, but LJ at #15 is absurd. Unless you're predicting an injury, I don't think that's remotely possible. There are few certainties in FF, but if LJ plays in at least 14 games this year, he will easily finish higher than 15.

I'd say before last year alot of people would have said it was absurd to put Edge @ 15 or later, well he fininshed #21. It doesn't have as much to do with LJ but about his division and his surroundings. Add in the fact of the pounding he has taken the last 2 years and I'm leary. I'm glad you have your opinion and that's great. Try not to just look at someone's past but try to see there future. The top ten usually has 5 new members in it from year to year which means it loses 5 old members. Why is it crazy to put LJ in the group moving out and out of the top 10?

 

[gianmarco]

I'm sorry, but LJ at #15 is absurd. Unless you're predicting an injury, I don't think that's remotely possible. There are few certainties in FF, but if LJ plays in at least 14 games this year, he will easily finish higher than 15.

I'd say before last year alot of people would have said it was absurd to put Edge @ 15 or later, well he fininshed #21. It doesn't have as much to do with LJ but about his division and his surroundings. Add in the fact of the pounding he has taken the last 2 years and I'm leary. I'm glad you have your opinion and that's great. Try not to just look at someone's past but try to see there future. The top ten usually has 5 new members in it from year to year which means it loses 5 old members. Why is it crazy to put LJ in the group moving out and out of the top 10?

LJ's current talent level is >>>>> Edge's talent level last year. And as bad as KC will be this year offensively, their running offensive schemes are still light years better than Arizona's. Not to mention the fact that Edge was on a completely new team from where he had spent his entire career. There are so few similarities between the 2 that that really isn't a good example.Also, Edge wasn't even close to a top 5 pick or considered an elite RB. LJ still is. Now, whether or not he lives up to his top 5 billing is one thing. There are some reasons for concerns for some people that are somewhat legitimate (even though I don't agree, I accept those). However, to predict such a monumental fall is a little overboard. Want to drop him out of the top 5, fine. Out of top 10? Doubtful, but ok. But to say that he won't even be in the top half of starting RB's just won't happen. And to tell me that I'm stuck looking at someone's past and not looking at their future because I think LJ has no chance of falling out of the top 15 is an exaggeration, don't you think?

 

[menobrown]

PPR Format:

1. LT

2. SJAX

3. Addai

4. LJ

5. Bush

6. Gore

7. Willie Parker

8. Westbrook

9. Alexander

10. Henry

11. Maroney

12. Rudi Johnson

 

[PsychoMan]

NO PPR

1. LT - no brainer

2. SJ - no brainer

3. LJ - won't explode like we're used to but should still be good for #3 (#5 is is floor IMO)

4. Addai - for some reason, people don't think he's all that good. he is, and he's in the best situation.

5. SA - should end up between 05 and 06

6. Gore - stud

7. FWP - me lika this guy

8. Travis Henry - good back should finally be the clear #1 in a good denver system

9. Westbrook - love this dude

10. Rudi - 1400 total yards & 12 TDs sounds about right

 

[Reservoir Dog]

First off this thread was useless without stateing type of league and scoreing. They flop around acordingly after top 2 IMO. Straight redraft basic scoreing no PPR. 1. LT 2. SJ (FIRST 2 PICKS ARE NO BRAINERS) After that it gets more interesting by the day! 3. GORE4. SA (he could easily get back to where he was a year ago this year if his foot holds up)5. ADDIA6. LJ (Theres gonna be a lot of dissapointed LJ owners out there this year. This COULD BE still too hi but where I have him ranked FOR NOW! 7. Westbrook Would move up in PPR8. Parker9. Henery10.JacobsUse this list if you want to your win your league!

I don't recognize some of those names...

What do you expect from a Buckeye?