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So Rousey v Mayweather next?
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this is what happens when you stop concentrating on fighting and more on movies and tv spots and start believing your own hype ...you start to float in the air instead of staying grounded ...sometimes losing is the best thing that can happen to a fighter
Just tired of the hype...deserved or not.I didn't realize there were so many people so upset with RR.
Let it all out, friends.
I just think the hype was out of hand. There was just no one on her level in the division, so she looked awesome. But to say she would beat Mayweather was just silliness, yet people insisted it would happen.I didn't realize there were so many people so upset with RR.
Let it all out, friends.
Just tired of the hype...deserved or not.I didn't realize there were so many people so upset with RR.
Let it all out, friends.
I just think the hype was out of hand. There was just no one on her level in the division, so she looked awesome. But to say she would beat Mayweather was just silliness, yet people insisted it would happen.I always like to see cocky people brought down to earth. This was wonderful.I didn't realize there were so many people so upset with RR.
Let it all out, friends.
And because of the SCOTUS decision on June 26, you two could legally get marriedSoulfly3 said:Id still let Rousey put my pecker in a rear naked chokehold
Yeah, that's pretty much how I see it.kutta said:I just think the hype was out of hand. There was just no one on her level in the division, so she looked awesome. But to say she would beat Mayweather was just silliness, yet people insisted it would happen.AhrnCityPahnder said:I didn't realize there were so many people so upset with RR.
Let it all out, friends.
I always like to see cocky people brought down to earth. This was wonderful.
I don't really buy into that as her legit take on things (other than the confidence). She gets a cut of the PPV butyrate. She's selling a fight. (see also Chael Sonnen, Connor McGregor, Nick Diaz, etc). You can argue it was the UFC hype machine, her own cockiness, or her own success -- IMO its a combination of all the above -- but she has reached rare air in popularity for MMA fighters. It's usually really telling how fighters act AFTER a fight, not before. If RR comes out and says that little preachers daughter caught her with a lucky shot and she's going to kill her 99 out of the next 100 fights and #### Holly Holm etc, then I admit to being fooled and that she really is an ###.Here's what I can't stand in sports. Rousey's tweet the day before the fight:
Fake ### cheap shotting fake respect fake humility ##### - "preacher's daughter" my ### - I see through your fake sweet act now - you're getting your ### kicked tomorrow, and I'm really going to enjoy the beating I give you #andSTILL
I get that. And the three guys you mentioned are also three guys I can't stand. I hate it when people promo fights that way. It cheapens the sport, IMO.I don't really buy into that as her legit take on things (other than the confidence). She gets a cut of the PPV butyrate. She's selling a fight. (see also Chael Sonnen, Connor McGregor, Nick Diaz, etc). You can argue it was the UFC hype machine, her own cockiness, or her own success -- IMO its a combination of all the above -- but she has reached rare air in popularity for MMA fighters. It's usually really telling how fighters act AFTER a fight, not before. If RR comes out and says that little preachers daughter caught her with a lucky shot and she's going to kill her 99 out of the next 100 fights and #### Holly Holm etc, then I admit to being fooled and that she really is an ###.Here's what I can't stand in sports. Rousey's tweet the day before the fight:
Fake ### cheap shotting fake respect fake humility ##### - "preacher's daughter" my ### - I see through your fake sweet act now - you're getting your ### kicked tomorrow, and I'm really going to enjoy the beating I give you #andSTILL
I suspect RR will come out humbly and say that Holly was better prepared and she was the better woman -- until the rematch PPV hype starts rolling, when of course she'll turn back into cocky, brash, marketing-Rousey again.
Did Muhammad Ali cheapen boxing? No, I'm not trying to compare the MMA skill of any of those mentioned with MA's boxing skills. just wondering if it's ever OK as part of a loud personality and a lightning rod for attention being a good thing for a given sport.I get that. And the three guys you mentioned are also three guys I can't stand. I hate it when people promo fights that way. It cheapens the sport, IMO.I don't really buy into that as her legit take on things (other than the confidence). She gets a cut of the PPV butyrate. She's selling a fight. (see also Chael Sonnen, Connor McGregor, Nick Diaz, etc). You can argue it was the UFC hype machine, her own cockiness, or her own success -- IMO its a combination of all the above -- but she has reached rare air in popularity for MMA fighters. It's usually really telling how fighters act AFTER a fight, not before. If RR comes out and says that little preachers daughter caught her with a lucky shot and she's going to kill her 99 out of the next 100 fights and #### Holly Holm etc, then I admit to being fooled and that she really is an ###.Here's what I can't stand in sports. Rousey's tweet the day before the fight:
Fake ### cheap shotting fake respect fake humility ##### - "preacher's daughter" my ### - I see through your fake sweet act now - you're getting your ### kicked tomorrow, and I'm really going to enjoy the beating I give you #andSTILL
I suspect RR will come out humbly and say that Holly was better prepared and she was the better woman -- until the rematch PPV hype starts rolling, when of course she'll turn back into cocky, brash, marketing-Rousey again.
You never saw GSP do that. Lawler doesn't do it. Ben Henderson doesn't do it. It's not needed, it's disrespectful, and I don't like fighters who do it.
There's a difference between promoting a fight and being an #######. I rarely like the loudmouths because they hide behind "promoting a fight" when in reality they are just #######s. I think Sonnen is the only one who does the silliness before a fight who I wouldn't consider an #######. He actuallly seems like a decent guy.Did Muhammad Ali cheapen boxing? No, I'm not trying to compare the MMA skill of any of those mentioned with MA's boxing skills. just wondering if it's ever OK as part of a loud personality and a lightning rod for attention being a good thing for a given sport.I get that. And the three guys you mentioned are also three guys I can't stand. I hate it when people promo fights that way. It cheapens the sport, IMO.I don't really buy into that as her legit take on things (other than the confidence). She gets a cut of the PPV butyrate. She's selling a fight. (see also Chael Sonnen, Connor McGregor, Nick Diaz, etc). You can argue it was the UFC hype machine, her own cockiness, or her own success -- IMO its a combination of all the above -- but she has reached rare air in popularity for MMA fighters. It's usually really telling how fighters act AFTER a fight, not before. If RR comes out and says that little preachers daughter caught her with a lucky shot and she's going to kill her 99 out of the next 100 fights and #### Holly Holm etc, then I admit to being fooled and that she really is an ###.Here's what I can't stand in sports. Rousey's tweet the day before the fight:
Fake ### cheap shotting fake respect fake humility ##### - "preacher's daughter" my ### - I see through your fake sweet act now - you're getting your ### kicked tomorrow, and I'm really going to enjoy the beating I give you #andSTILL
I suspect RR will come out humbly and say that Holly was better prepared and she was the better woman -- until the rematch PPV hype starts rolling, when of course she'll turn back into cocky, brash, marketing-Rousey again.
You never saw GSP do that. Lawler doesn't do it. Ben Henderson doesn't do it. It's not needed, it's disrespectful, and I don't like fighters who do it.
Ali was a lot more than a #### talker. He was a showman. Don't see Rousey being comparable to Ali in any way.Did Muhammad Ali cheapen boxing? No, I'm not trying to compare the MMA skill of any of those mentioned with MA's boxing skills. just wondering if it's ever OK as part of a loud personality and a lightning rod for attention being a good thing for a given sport.I get that. And the three guys you mentioned are also three guys I can't stand. I hate it when people promo fights that way. It cheapens the sport, IMO.I don't really buy into that as her legit take on things (other than the confidence). She gets a cut of the PPV butyrate. She's selling a fight. (see also Chael Sonnen, Connor McGregor, Nick Diaz, etc). You can argue it was the UFC hype machine, her own cockiness, or her own success -- IMO its a combination of all the above -- but she has reached rare air in popularity for MMA fighters. It's usually really telling how fighters act AFTER a fight, not before. If RR comes out and says that little preachers daughter caught her with a lucky shot and she's going to kill her 99 out of the next 100 fights and #### Holly Holm etc, then I admit to being fooled and that she really is an ###.Here's what I can't stand in sports. Rousey's tweet the day before the fight:
Fake ### cheap shotting fake respect fake humility ##### - "preacher's daughter" my ### - I see through your fake sweet act now - you're getting your ### kicked tomorrow, and I'm really going to enjoy the beating I give you #andSTILL
I suspect RR will come out humbly and say that Holly was better prepared and she was the better woman -- until the rematch PPV hype starts rolling, when of course she'll turn back into cocky, brash, marketing-Rousey again.
You never saw GSP do that. Lawler doesn't do it. Ben Henderson doesn't do it. It's not needed, it's disrespectful, and I don't like fighters who do it.
Yepscoobus said:Just unbelievably dumb by Rousey, talk about believing your own hype in regards to her standup. No doubt in my mind if Rousey goes in just trying to grapple and armbar her she wins within a round, but her doofus (and bankrupt) coach has her believing she can actually beat boxing world champions on the feet. Mind-boggling stupid.
Anyways, massive props to Holly Holm. Handled everything prefight and after the fight with amazing class, very worthy champion. Rematch will make her some serious $$$ if she didn't already make a ton tonight.
Guys gotta get paidI get that. And the three guys you mentioned are also three guys I can't stand. I hate it when people promo fights that way. It cheapens the sport, IMO.You never saw GSP do that. Lawler doesn't do it. Ben Henderson doesn't do it. It's not needed, it's disrespectful, and I don't like fighters who do it.I don't really buy into that as her legit take on things (other than the confidence). She gets a cut of the PPV butyrate. She's selling a fight. (see also Chael Sonnen, Connor McGregor, Nick Diaz, etc). You can argue it was the UFC hype machine, her own cockiness, or her own success -- IMO its a combination of all the above -- but she has reached rare air in popularity for MMA fighters. It's usually really telling how fighters act AFTER a fight, not before. If RR comes out and says that little preachers daughter caught her with a lucky shot and she's going to kill her 99 out of the next 100 fights and #### Holly Holm etc, then I admit to being fooled and that she really is an ###.Here's what I can't stand in sports. Rousey's tweet the day before the fight:
Fake ### cheap shotting fake respect fake humility ##### - "preacher's daughter" my ### - I see through your fake sweet act now - you're getting your ### kicked tomorrow, and I'm really going to enjoy the beating I give you #andSTILL
I suspect RR will come out humbly and say that Holly was better prepared and she was the better woman -- until the rematch PPV hype starts rolling, when of course she'll turn back into cocky, brash, marketing-Rousey again.
There are a LOT of respectful fighters who make a lot of money. If the sport is at the point where you have to be a loud, obnoxious, disrespecftul jerk in order to earn money, then I don't want any part of it. I might as well watch pro wrestling.Guys gotta get paidI get that. And the three guys you mentioned are also three guys I can't stand. I hate it when people promo fights that way. It cheapens the sport, IMO.You never saw GSP do that. Lawler doesn't do it. Ben Henderson doesn't do it. It's not needed, it's disrespectful, and I don't like fighters who do it.I don't really buy into that as her legit take on things (other than the confidence). She gets a cut of the PPV butyrate. She's selling a fight. (see also Chael Sonnen, Connor McGregor, Nick Diaz, etc). You can argue it was the UFC hype machine, her own cockiness, or her own success -- IMO its a combination of all the above -- but she has reached rare air in popularity for MMA fighters. It's usually really telling how fighters act AFTER a fight, not before. If RR comes out and says that little preachers daughter caught her with a lucky shot and she's going to kill her 99 out of the next 100 fights and #### Holly Holm etc, then I admit to being fooled and that she really is an ###.Here's what I can't stand in sports. Rousey's tweet the day before the fight:
Fake ### cheap shotting fake respect fake humility ##### - "preacher's daughter" my ### - I see through your fake sweet act now - you're getting your ### kicked tomorrow, and I'm really going to enjoy the beating I give you #andSTILL
I suspect RR will come out humbly and say that Holly was better prepared and she was the better woman -- until the rematch PPV hype starts rolling, when of course she'll turn back into cocky, brash, marketing-Rousey again.
Demetrius Johnson doesn't sniff what these guys make because he has a terribly boring personality. Being respectful and polite doesn't stir fans emotions for better or worse.
Couldn't stand Sonnens shtick, love McGregors. Both gave me a reason to pay to watch them.
And the guys you don't like are respectful in the cage. That's the important part IMO.There are a LOT of respectful fighters who make a lot of money. If the sport is at the point where you have to be a loud, obnoxious, disrespecftul jerk in order to earn money, then I don't want any part of it. I might as well watch pro wrestling.Some people obviously like it. Others obviously don't. I am one of those who doesn't like it.Guys gotta get paid Demetrius Johnson doesn't sniff what these guys make because he has a terribly boring personality. Being respectful and polite doesn't stir fans emotions for better or worse.I get that. And the three guys you mentioned are also three guys I can't stand. I hate it when people promo fights that way. It cheapens the sport, IMO.You never saw GSP do that. Lawler doesn't do it. Ben Henderson doesn't do it. It's not needed, it's disrespectful, and I don't like fighters who do it.I don't really buy into that as her legit take on things (other than the confidence). She gets a cut of the PPV butyrate. She's selling a fight. (see also Chael Sonnen, Connor McGregor, Nick Diaz, etc). You can argue it was the UFC hype machine, her own cockiness, or her own success -- IMO its a combination of all the above -- but she has reached rare air in popularity for MMA fighters. It's usually really telling how fighters act AFTER a fight, not before. If RR comes out and says that little preachers daughter caught her with a lucky shot and she's going to kill her 99 out of the next 100 fights and #### Holly Holm etc, then I admit to being fooled and that she really is an ###.Here's what I can't stand in sports. Rousey's tweet the day before the fight:
Fake ### cheap shotting fake respect fake humility ##### - "preacher's daughter" my ### - I see through your fake sweet act now - you're getting your ### kicked tomorrow, and I'm really going to enjoy the beating I give you #andSTILL
I suspect RR will come out humbly and say that Holly was better prepared and she was the better woman -- until the rematch PPV hype starts rolling, when of course she'll turn back into cocky, brash, marketing-Rousey again.
Couldn't stand Sonnens shtick, love McGregors. Both gave me a reason to pay to watch them.
Diaz is respectful in the cage???? And I wouldn't exactly say Rousey and McGreggor are respectful in the cage either.And the guys you don't like are respectful in the cage. That's the important part IMO.There are a LOT of respectful fighters who make a lot of money. If the sport is at the point where you have to be a loud, obnoxious, disrespecftul jerk in order to earn money, then I don't want any part of it. I might as well watch pro wrestling.Some people obviously like it. Others obviously don't. I am one of those who doesn't like it.Guys gotta get paid Demetrius Johnson doesn't sniff what these guys make because he has a terribly boring personality. Being respectful and polite doesn't stir fans emotions for better or worse.I get that. And the three guys you mentioned are also three guys I can't stand. I hate it when people promo fights that way. It cheapens the sport, IMO.You never saw GSP do that. Lawler doesn't do it. Ben Henderson doesn't do it. It's not needed, it's disrespectful, and I don't like fighters who do it.I don't really buy into that as her legit take on things (other than the confidence). She gets a cut of the PPV butyrate. She's selling a fight. (see also Chael Sonnen, Connor McGregor, Nick Diaz, etc). You can argue it was the UFC hype machine, her own cockiness, or her own success -- IMO its a combination of all the above -- but she has reached rare air in popularity for MMA fighters. It's usually really telling how fighters act AFTER a fight, not before. If RR comes out and says that little preachers daughter caught her with a lucky shot and she's going to kill her 99 out of the next 100 fights and #### Holly Holm etc, then I admit to being fooled and that she really is an ###.Here's what I can't stand in sports. Rousey's tweet the day before the fight:
Fake ### cheap shotting fake respect fake humility ##### - "preacher's daughter" my ### - I see through your fake sweet act now - you're getting your ### kicked tomorrow, and I'm really going to enjoy the beating I give you #andSTILL
I suspect RR will come out humbly and say that Holly was better prepared and she was the better woman -- until the rematch PPV hype starts rolling, when of course she'll turn back into cocky, brash, marketing-Rousey again.
Couldn't stand Sonnens shtick, love McGregors. Both gave me a reason to pay to watch them.
Sports are entertainment. Some of these guys entertain when not in competition. The sport doesn't necessarily need it, but it sure helps sell tickets.
Once the fight is over, yes.kutta said:Diaz is respectful in the cage????
UFC welterweight Nick Diaz could be one of the most misunderstood fighters in MMA today.
He speaks his mind, goes by the beat of his own drum, and is often characterized as a fighter that does nothing but talk trash to his opponents while flipping them off during his fights.
All of those things are true to a degree, but what most Diaz critics fail to see is the respect he shows to most of his opponents after each fight.
Do you remember how the BJ Penn/Nick Diaz weigh-in went down when they basically butted heads and UFC President Dana White had to quickly jump in and separate them? Remember the respect he showed BJ Penn after battering him for the last two rounds of their fight at UFC 137?
Remember the Nick Diaz/Paul Daley weigh-in footage where they called one another all types of names? What about the footage of Diaz and Paul Daley meeting up in the lobby of a hotel after they had waged one of the most epic one round fights ever in April 2011?
Notice a pattern?
Remember the war of words Diaz had with Frank Shamrock in 2009? Do you remember how Diaz walked with Shamrock around the cage after their fight holding his hand in the air, or how he bowed to Shamrock in an corridor outside their dressing room after beating Shamrock into retirement?
Now, it’s true we’ve seen Diaz go off his rocker when close judges decisions don’t go his way. We’ve seen him claim that judges are out to get him, or how he’s overworked and underpaid. We’ve seen how incoherent he can be at times when answering questions in his interviews.
There are many facets to Nick Diaz, and for whatever reasons people have a love/hate relationship with him. Some people love the fact that he sort of does his own thing, abides by his own rules, and simply come to bring it once he steps inside the cage.
Some people despise his antics and bash him for instigating post-fight riots, or the trash talk he uses to get himself motivated to fight his opponents.
All of that stuff is true, but if we’re going to recognize the times that Diaz is unruly or seemingly disrespectful, we need to recognize the times he has shown great humility and respect as well.
If you are going to argue that Diaz is a respectful fighter, we probably just need to end this discussion. We aren't going to convince each other.Once the fight is over, yes.kutta said:Diaz is respectful in the cage????
UFC welterweight Nick Diaz could be one of the most misunderstood fighters in MMA today.
He speaks his mind, goes by the beat of his own drum, and is often characterized as a fighter that does nothing but talk trash to his opponents while flipping them off during his fights.
All of those things are true to a degree, but what most Diaz critics fail to see is the respect he shows to most of his opponents after each fight.
Do you remember how the BJ Penn/Nick Diaz weigh-in went down when they basically butted heads and UFC President Dana White had to quickly jump in and separate them? Remember the respect he showed BJ Penn after battering him for the last two rounds of their fight at UFC 137?
Remember the Nick Diaz/Paul Daley weigh-in footage where they called one another all types of names? What about the footage of Diaz and Paul Daley meeting up in the lobby of a hotel after they had waged one of the most epic one round fights ever in April 2011?
Notice a pattern?
Remember the war of words Diaz had with Frank Shamrock in 2009? Do you remember how Diaz walked with Shamrock around the cage after their fight holding his hand in the air, or how he bowed to Shamrock in an corridor outside their dressing room after beating Shamrock into retirement?
Now, it’s true we’ve seen Diaz go off his rocker when close judges decisions don’t go his way. We’ve seen him claim that judges are out to get him, or how he’s overworked and underpaid. We’ve seen how incoherent he can be at times when answering questions in his interviews.
There are many facets to Nick Diaz, and for whatever reasons people have a love/hate relationship with him. Some people love the fact that he sort of does his own thing, abides by his own rules, and simply come to bring it once he steps inside the cage.
Some people despise his antics and bash him for instigating post-fight riots, or the trash talk he uses to get himself motivated to fight his opponents.
All of that stuff is true, but if we’re going to recognize the times that Diaz is unruly or seemingly disrespectful, we need to recognize the times he has shown great humility and respect as well.
I'm going to argue that Diaz is generally a respectful person but, like Rousey, pretends to be very disrespectful to sell fights. We don't have to agree on that.If you are going to argue that Diaz is a respectful fighter, we probably just need to end this discussion. We aren't going to convince each other.
OK. We don't agree on that, but that's cool.I'm going to argue that Diaz is generally a respectful person but, like Rousey, pretends to be very disrespectful to sell fights. We don't have to agree on that.If you are going to argue that Diaz is a respectful fighter, we probably just need to end this discussion. We aren't going to convince each other.
Sure, but wouldn't it be kinda dull (definitely less popular to the masses) if you had all GSPs running around? Sometimes I tuned in on the hopes that a guy like Diaz got his ### handed to him.I get that. And the three guys you mentioned are also three guys I can't stand. I hate it when people promo fights that way. It cheapens the sport, IMO.I don't really buy into that as her legit take on things (other than the confidence). She gets a cut of the PPV butyrate. She's selling a fight. (see also Chael Sonnen, Connor McGregor, Nick Diaz, etc). You can argue it was the UFC hype machine, her own cockiness, or her own success -- IMO its a combination of all the above -- but she has reached rare air in popularity for MMA fighters. It's usually really telling how fighters act AFTER a fight, not before. If RR comes out and says that little preachers daughter caught her with a lucky shot and she's going to kill her 99 out of the next 100 fights and #### Holly Holm etc, then I admit to being fooled and that she really is an ###.Here's what I can't stand in sports. Rousey's tweet the day before the fight:
Fake ### cheap shotting fake respect fake humility ##### - "preacher's daughter" my ### - I see through your fake sweet act now - you're getting your ### kicked tomorrow, and I'm really going to enjoy the beating I give you #andSTILL
I suspect RR will come out humbly and say that Holly was better prepared and she was the better woman -- until the rematch PPV hype starts rolling, when of course she'll turn back into cocky, brash, marketing-Rousey again.
You never saw GSP do that. Lawler doesn't do it. Ben Henderson doesn't do it. It's not needed, it's disrespectful, and I don't like fighters who do it.
I agree. It adds excitement. I just don't like the people doing it. But I sure do root hard against them. So it works.Sure, but wouldn't it be kinda dull (definitely less popular to the masses) if you had all GSPs running around? Sometimes I tuned in on the hopes that a guy like Diaz got his ### handed to him.I get that. And the three guys you mentioned are also three guys I can't stand. I hate it when people promo fights that way. It cheapens the sport, IMO.I don't really buy into that as her legit take on things (other than the confidence). She gets a cut of the PPV butyrate. She's selling a fight. (see also Chael Sonnen, Connor McGregor, Nick Diaz, etc). You can argue it was the UFC hype machine, her own cockiness, or her own success -- IMO its a combination of all the above -- but she has reached rare air in popularity for MMA fighters. It's usually really telling how fighters act AFTER a fight, not before. If RR comes out and says that little preachers daughter caught her with a lucky shot and she's going to kill her 99 out of the next 100 fights and #### Holly Holm etc, then I admit to being fooled and that she really is an ###.Here's what I can't stand in sports. Rousey's tweet the day before the fight:
Fake ### cheap shotting fake respect fake humility ##### - "preacher's daughter" my ### - I see through your fake sweet act now - you're getting your ### kicked tomorrow, and I'm really going to enjoy the beating I give you #andSTILL
I suspect RR will come out humbly and say that Holly was better prepared and she was the better woman -- until the rematch PPV hype starts rolling, when of course she'll turn back into cocky, brash, marketing-Rousey again.
You never saw GSP do that. Lawler doesn't do it. Ben Henderson doesn't do it. It's not needed, it's disrespectful, and I don't like fighters who do it.
Nothing congratulating the new champ? Color me shocked.Ronda posted on Twitter:
“I just wanted to thank everyone for the love and support,” Rousey wrote. “I appreciate the concerns about my health, but I’m fine. As I mentioned before I am going to take a little bit of time, but I’ll be back.”
http://fansided.com/2015/11/15/ronda-rousey-statement-ufc-193-instagram/?utm_source=si.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=si.com
Rousey is referencing plans to take a break from the UFC that she mentioned before UFC 193. Rousey said she was going to disappear to work on some movie projects which will require her time.
Rousey did about anything she could to try to clinch up and take her down. She's not a wrestler, she doesn't go for shots, she clinches up and does judo throws. Holly kept on the move and kept a fist in her face preventing her from grappling. That's about all she was trying to do though, she didn't want to stand at all.Just unbelievably dumb by Rousey, talk about believing your own hype in regards to her standup. No doubt in my mind if Rousey goes in just trying to grapple and armbar her she wins within a round, but her doofus (and bankrupt) coach has her believing she can actually beat boxing world champions on the feet. Mind-boggling stupid.
Anyways, massive props to Holly Holm. Handled everything prefight and after the fight with amazing class, very worthy champion. Rematch will make her some serious $$$ if she didn't already make a ton tonight.