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If we were doing a redraft of the rookies for a dynasty league, here is what I think it would look like. In parenthesis, is the Bloom 100 post draft ranking.

1. Cam Newton(13)

2. A.J. Green (2)

3. DeMarco Murray(17)

4. Mark Ingram (1)

5. Julio Jones (3)

6. Denarius Moore (34)

7. Greg Little (6)

8. Torrey Smith (19)

9. Vincent Brown (10)

10. Kendall Hunter (11)

11. Stevan Ridley (56)

12. Andy Dalton (36)

13. Delone Carter (15)

14. Daniel Thomas (5)

15. Randall Cobb (8)

16. Shane Vereen (9)

17. Taiwan Jones (21)

18. Christian Ponder (39)

19. Bilal Powell (18)

20. Von Miller (53)

21. Jon Baldwin (16)

22. Roy Helu (50)

23. Jacquizz Rodgers (13)

24. Titus Young (31)

25. Mason Foster (37)

26. Lance Kendricks (23)

27. Jake Locker (28)

28. Alex Green (42)

29. Ryan Williams (4)

30. Colin Kaepernick (27)

31. Mikel Leshoure (7)

32. Leonard Hankerson (26)

33. Greg Salas (14)

34. Blaine Gabbert (25)

35. Julius Thomas (47)

 
In a redraft league maybe although how you put ingram over julio is beyond me, but in dyno leagues the order is way off.

 
I love what Dalton has done in Cinci, but I ultimately don't think he will be anything more than a pretty-good #2 fantasy QB, and therefore would have him a lot lower. Helu and Thomas both appear pretty low more my tastes. Good list overall, thanks for starting the topic.

 
after what he's done on the field, I'm not sure how/why Helu would be below Little, Ridley, Carter, Vereen, Jones, Powell, etc...?

because he's a 4th round pick?

 
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My biased opinion is that Kyle Rudolph should make the list.
It's not even biased.It's crazy ranking Kendricks and Orange Julius above Rudolph. Assuming this is a dynasty ranking Rudolph also has a clear window to increased opportunity, because Shiancoe is in the final year of his contract and it isn't likely that he'll be back.
 
i had higher expectations for thomas but i would still take him #7, behind your top 6. possibly #8 with brown in at the 7 spot

i would take ryan williams at the 7 spot, after moore but before thomas, brown, and little. wells showed that there is a place for an rb to succeed in arz. he also showed he wont be able to put up much of a fight for that #1 rb spot next year vs williams

lesure, did you forget about him? with best's injuries i think its very possible he becomes the top FF rb in DET next year. a mid-low rb2 with low rb1 upside if he is able to get in the endzone often. even if you disagree, he should be in the top 20 at the least.

tiwan jones would be my buy low for the off season. bush is a FA this year and if he leaves, jones's should have great value with dmacs injury history. based on that, i'd move him up a few spots

 
i had higher expectations for thomas but i would still take him #7, behind your top 6. possibly #8 with brown in at the 7 spot

i would take ryan williams at the 7 spot, after moore but before thomas, brown, and little. wells showed that there is a place for an rb to succeed in arz. he also showed he wont be able to put up much of a fight for that #1 rb spot next year vs williams

lesure, did you forget about him? with best's injuries i think its very possible he becomes the top FF rb in DET next year. a mid-low rb2 with low rb1 upside if he is able to get in the endzone often. even if you disagree, he should be in the top 20 at the least.

tiwan jones would be my buy low for the off season. bush is a FA this year and if he leaves, jones's should have great value with dmacs injury history. based on that, i'd move him up a few spots

 
I'd draft Julio #2 in a PPR rookie draft held today.

Newton should be a Top 5 QB for a few years (would draft #1). I think Julio will be a Top 5 WR for a few years. Would put Murray/AJ thereafter.

I think with a full offseason to grow, Quizz Rodgers is going to be a player in the league. (Will be my #1 buy low of this offseason. We're already seeing small signs of the lightning presence & he unquestionably does have the lower body strength to succeed in a larger role of 10+ carries game with receiving presence)

I'd also put Dion Lewis above anyone outside your Top 10. He's a fantasy #1 RB if McCoy goes down.

 
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goes to show you listening to experts may not always be the best move.
No, I don't think it goes to show that at all...I'm sure your personal rankings would look way off when you look back at them months later too. They'd likely be much worse in fact.
 
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after what he's done on the field, I'm not sure how/why Helu would be below Little, Ridley, Carter, Vereen, Jones, Powell, etc...?because he's a 4th round pick?
I've seen nothing from Helu to indicate he is anything other than a typical Shanny RB, one who randomly starts 1/3 of games and gets zero carries equally randomly in another 1/3 of games.
 
after what he's done on the field, I'm not sure how/why Helu would be below Little, Ridley, Carter, Vereen, Jones, Powell, etc...?because he's a 4th round pick?
I've seen nothing from Helu to indicate he is anything other than a typical Shanny RB, one who randomly starts 1/3 of games and gets zero carries equally randomly in another 1/3 of games.
not sure I understand the argument. Ridley, Carter, Vereen, Jones, Powell, and Rodgers have all gotten a lot less work.Helu has averaged 5 ypc and caught almost 30 balls...that is much better production than many of the backs ranked ahead of him- part-time role or not
 
If we were doing a redraft of the rookies for a dynasty league, here is what I think it would look like. In parenthesis, is the Bloom 100 post draft ranking.1. Cam Newton(13)2. A.J. Green (2)3. DeMarco Murray(17)4. Mark Ingram (1)5. Julio Jones (3)6. Denarius Moore (34)7. Greg Little (6)8. Torrey Smith (19)9. Vincent Brown (10)10. Kendall Hunter (11)11. Stevan Ridley (56)12. Andy Dalton (36)13. Delone Carter (15)14. Daniel Thomas (5)15. Randall Cobb (8)16. Shane Vereen (9)17. Taiwan Jones (21)18. Christian Ponder (39)19. Bilal Powell (18)20. Von Miller (53)21. Jon Baldwin (16)22. Roy Helu (50)23. Jacquizz Rodgers (13)24. Titus Young (31)25. Mason Foster (37)26. Lance Kendricks (23)27. Jake Locker (28)28. Alex Green (42)29. Ryan Williams (4)30. Colin Kaepernick (27)31. Mikel Leshoure (7)32. Leonard Hankerson (26)33. Greg Salas (14)34. Blaine Gabbert (25)35. Julius Thomas (47)
great exercise.should be higher: salas, hankerson, rodgers (much higher), cobb, brown, dthomasshould be lower: ridley, agreen
 
after what he's done on the field, I'm not sure how/why Helu would be below Little, Ridley, Carter, Vereen, Jones, Powell, etc...?because he's a 4th round pick?
I've seen nothing from Helu to indicate he is anything other than a typical Shanny RB, one who randomly starts 1/3 of games and gets zero carries equally randomly in another 1/3 of games.
not sure I understand the argument. Ridley, Carter, Vereen, Jones, Powell, and Rodgers have all gotten a lot less work.Helu has averaged 5 ypc and caught almost 30 balls...that is much better production than many of the backs ranked ahead of him- part-time role or not
Helu has the Shanny factor. It doesn't matter if he looks solid - Shanny hasn't handed him the starting job. And never fully will. I'd much rather have Little - and probably Ridley (who has looked good), Vereen (far more talented), Carter (also looked good in bursts), and Rodgers (more explosive). Just a personal opinion.
 
Sig

Unless your in a dynasty ppr league that scores yardage and td's for special teams play, you can't move Cobb higher.

To assume he ever becomes a top 30 WR in a standard league is not realistic, assuming Rodgers keeps playing at his high level

Even assuming this is Drivers last year, he will be behind Jennings and JFin, never mind Nelson, and then has to compete with Jones for rcpts, as well as the other 35 players Rodgers seems to throw to every game.

 
If we were doing a redraft of the rookies for a dynasty league, here is what I think it would look like. In parenthesis, is the Bloom 100 post draft ranking.

1. Cam Newton(13)

2. A.J. Green (2)

3. DeMarco Murray(17)

4. Mark Ingram (1)

5. Julio Jones (3)

6. Denarius Moore (34)

7. Greg Little (6)

8. Torrey Smith (19)

9. Vincent Brown (10)

10. Kendall Hunter (11)

11. Stevan Ridley (56)

12. Andy Dalton (36)

13. Delone Carter (15)

14. Daniel Thomas (5)

15. Randall Cobb (8)

16. Shane Vereen (9)

17. Taiwan Jones (21)

18. Christian Ponder (39)

19. Bilal Powell (18)

20. Von Miller (53)

21. Jon Baldwin (16)

22. Roy Helu (50)

23. Jacquizz Rodgers (13)

24. Titus Young (31)

25. Mason Foster (37)

26. Lance Kendricks (23)

27. Jake Locker (28)

28. Alex Green (42)

29. Ryan Williams (4)

30. Colin Kaepernick (27)

31. Mikel Leshoure (7)

32. Leonard Hankerson (26)

33. Greg Salas (14)

34. Blaine Gabbert (25)

35. Julius Thomas (47)
great exercise.should be higher: salas, hankerson, rodgers (much higher), cobb, brown, dthomas

should be lower: ridley, agreen
Good stuff.Assuming dynasty, I would move Ponder up significantly and bump Hankerson. Ponder will most likely get more help next year and Hank will more than likely get a legit QB prospect to work with.

Gil Brandt over at nfl.com recently did an NFL re-draft article, not fantasy but interesting to compare with the above.

Go to link for full story.

LINK TO: Gil Brandt's 2011 NFL draft re-do article

Newton still would be top pick, but other QBs rise in re-draft

By Gil Brandt NFL.com

Senior Analyst

Published: Nov. 2, 2011 at 01:26 p.m

... 1. Carolina Panthers--Actual pick -- Cam Newton

Adjusted pick -- Same: Newton has exceeded all expectations and should set multiple rookie passing records. With Newton at the helm, the Panthers have scored just nine fewer in points through eight games than they did all of last season.

2. Denver Broncos Actual pick -- Von Miller

Adjusted pick -- Andy Dalton: There's no doubt that Miller is a good player. He has six sacks, but the Broncos are a quarterback away from being a potential playoff team in that division. Despite being 2-5, Denver has talent and Dalton gives them a better chance to win. He's another rookie QB playing above expectations. Dalton's not flashy, but is smart and steady.

3. Buffalo Bills Actual pick -- Marcell Dareus

Adjusted pick -- Same: Dareus is the primary reason the Bills are giving up nine fewer points per game this year. At this time last year, they were 0-7 and now they're 5-2. He played really well against Washington (2.5 sacks) and is starting to assert himself in Buffalo.

4. Cincinnati Bengals Actual pick -- A.J. Green

Adjusted pick -- Same: The Bengals lost their three top receivers from last season and Green has provided a go-to option in the passing game. He has 33 receptions and five touchdowns. They have five wins already after finishing with four last year. Green and the rest of the draft class have played a major role in that accomplishment.

5. Arizona Cardinals Actual pick -- Patrick Peterson

Adjusted pick -- Christian Ponder: History says it's far easier to find a corner than a quarterback. Ponder has played really well in his two starts and his lack of arm strength would be mitigated by the fact that the Cardinals play indoors. He's very smart and recognizes things quickly. Peterson has started seven games and taken back two punts for touchdowns, but when you have continued issues under center that has to be your top priority. This also would have allowed the Cardinals to bypass the Kevin Kolb trade.

6. Atlanta Falcons Actual pick -- Julio Jones

Adjusted pick -- Same: Jones is still the guy here. You could very easily flip Green and Jones. Even though Jones has been hurt, he leads the Falcons in average yards per catch (14.3 yards). He's also a good blocker, which is important in Atlanta's run-based offense.

7. San Francisco 49ers Actual pick -- Aldon Smith

Adjusted pick -- Same: Smith is a pass rush specialist. He looks like Jevon Kearse when he came into the league and had 14.5 sacks as a rookie. If Smith was a horse, the way he runs make him look like Secretariat compared to going up against a bunch of plow horses.

8. Tennessee Titans Actual pick -- Jake Locker

Adjusted pick -- Patrick Peterson: With Matt Hasselbeck playing well and the team in the playoff race, the Titans can afford to bypass a QB for the future and go after the best player still on the board in Peterson. The LSU product is a solid corner and gives Tennessee someone to pair with Cortland Finnegan. Peterson also brings another dimension with his ability in the return game.

9. Dallas Cowboys Actual pick -- Tyron Smith

Adjusted pick -- Nate Solder: The difference is Smith will be good, but Solder is ready to play right now because he was a five-year player and has more experience. Solder's stronger and more polished.

10. Jacksonville Jaguars Actual pick -- Blaine Gabbert

Adjusted pick -- Same: He's started the bulk of their games and moved the team well at times. He's mobile and has a good arm but needs to work on accuracy. The Jaguars also have to get him some more weapons.

11. Houston Texans Actual pick -- J.J. Watt

Adjusted pick -- Von Miller: Miller falls here. It's not necessarily because of anything he's done wrong, but he's a great fit for the 3-4 in Houston as opposed to the 4-3 in Denver. He's an excellent pass rusher and can make plays after dropping back.

12. Minnesota Vikings Actual pick -- Christian Ponder

Adjusted pick -- Jake Locker: The Vikings still go with a potential QB of the future. Locker's the guy they really wanted all along and he would be playing now on a struggling team and learning on the job. No one realized he played hurt last season, which hurt his stock. Locker has good poise and arm strength.

13. Detroit Lions Actual pick -- Nick Fairley

Adjusted pick -- J.J. Watt: Watt is probably better suited for a 4-3 defense because he's a more effective rusher with his hand on the ground. He shows good effort and is one of those guys who never quits. Fairley is talented but has struggled to make an impact due to injury.

14. St. Louis Rams Actual pick -- Robert Quinn

Adjusted pick -- Adrian Clayborn: Quinn had a good game last week in the win over the Saints, but hasn't done much else. Clayborn has seven starts and is a good pass rusher (three sacks) who gives effort on every play.

15. Miami Dolphins Actual pick -- Mike Pouncey

Adjusted pick -- DeMarco Murray:While Pouncey has been good, he's a center and Miami needs someone to put some juice in the offense. Reggie Bush was supposed to be that guy, but Murray is capable of having a big game every week. Murray's not only a runner with quickness and acceleration but is also a good receiver.

16. Washington Redskins Actual pick -- Ryan Kerrigan

Adjusted pick --Same: No need to change here. Kerrigan has seven starts playing a new position, 3-4 linebacker as opposed to defensive end. He has taken to the position naturally, making plays in space.

17. New England Patriots Actual pick -- Nate Solder

Adjusted pick --Tyron Smith: So Solder and Smith flip positions. Smith is 20 and is going to be very good. But he lacks the strength and experience to be successful at this point. Eagles DE Jason Babin killed him last week with a few spin moves.

18. San Diego Chargers Actual pick -- Corey Liuget

Adjusted pick -- Phil Taylor: This is a breaking point as far as the talent level dropping a bit. Everybody before this point has Pro Bowl potential off what we've seen so far. The Chargers opt to go for Taylor over Liuget because he could be a nose tackle, which is a bigger priority in the 3-4. Taylor has seven starts and three sacks. He's played above expectations and is more powerful than Liuget.

19. New York Giants Actual pick -- Prince Amukamara

Adjusted pick --Same: He's still trying to come back from a broken foot, but has the potential to be a solid starter when he gets healthy.

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Actual pick -- Adrian Clayborn

Adjusted pick -- Jabaal Sheard: With Clayborn already off the board, Sheard is another solid 4-3 end option. He has seven starts and gives you good effort and is an excellent pass rusher.

21. Cleveland Browns Actual pick -- Phil Taylor

Adjusted pick -- Nick Fairley: The Browns would be without their top two draft picks in this scenario. Fairley is another guy who has been limited due to injury, so I'm basing this off his play at Auburn as an inside pass rusher with good quickness.

22. Indianapolis Colts Actual pick -- Anthony Castonzo

Adjusted pick -- Same: Quarterback would have to be a consideration, but the top-tier options are all gone. Castonzo is right where he should be. He had four starts before he got hurt and played well.

23. Philadelphia Eagles Actual pick -- Danny Watkins

Adjusted pick -- Stefen Wisniewski: Wisniewski's been a big surprise. He has blocked well in both run and pass and is one of the reasons why the Raiders have the second-ranked rushing attack. He's a strong, tough football player and has more experience than Watkins.

24. New Orleans Saints Actual pick -- Cameron Jordan

Adjusted pick -- Same: He doesn't have any sacks, but has started every game for the Saints. Jordan plays on the strong side, which limits his chances to get sacks. He's been very solid vs. the run.

25. Seattle Seahawks Actual pick -- James Carpenter

Adjusted pick -- Same: He's been playing right tackle out of necessity, but his best position is probably guard. He could be moved to the interior at some point and be a Pro Bowl player.

26. Kansas City Chiefs Actual pick -- Jonathan Baldwin

Adjusted pick -- Same: He had a breakout game vs. the Chargers. His broken hand slowed him down to start the season. Baldwin's a big guy who runs good routes and has excellent speed for his size (6-foot-4, 228 pounds). He doesn't look that fast until he runs right by you. There's very little difference between Green, Jones and Baldwin.

27. Baltimore Ravens Actual pick -- Jimmy Smith

Adjusted pick -- Same: He's been hurt, but from what we saw in preseason and some limited action is a good cover corner. Smith's going to be a starter and has Pro Bowl potential.

28. New Orleans Saints Actual pick -- Mark Ingram

Adjusted pick -- Same: I almost took Stevan Ridley here. Ingram is a solid power back and a nice option on the goal line. But with little flash to his game, he will never be a star.

29. Chicago Bears Actual pick -- Gabe Carimi

Adjusted pick -- Same: Carimi has been out since Week 2. In his brief stint as a starter, he made a difference on that offensive line. He's really strong and has really good hands. He's best suited to stay at right tackle and should be a strong starter going forward.

30. New York Jets Actual pick -- Muhammad Wilkerson

Adjusted pick -- Same: He's started seven games and exceeded expectations. Wilkerson has good size and athletic ability, which should make him a viable part of that defense for years to come.

31. Pittsburgh Steelers Actual pick -- Cam Heyward

Adjusted pick -- Corey Liuget:Liuget is strong and shows flashes of being able to make big plays. Consistency in his game hasn't been there yet and that needs to improve. Heyward hasn't gotten on the field, and I like Liuget better.

32. Green Bay Packers Actual pick -- Derek Sherrod

Adjusted pick -- Danny Watkins: Sherrod has upside but doesn't have a lot of experience or strength. Watkins is a tough, hard-nose guy. See what the Eagles did against the Cowboys as proof of that.

Players dropping out of the first round

Robert Quinn (originally drafted 14th), Mike Pouncey (15th), Cam Heyward (31st), and Derek Sherrod (32nd).

Players moving into the first round

Andy Dalton (35th), DeMarco Murray (71st), Jabaal Sheard (37th), Stefen Wisniewski (48th).

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Brandt wrote that on the 2nd of Nov so things have changed a bit since then but this provides a good snapshot of how some of the rookies have fared so far this season.

 
SigUnless your in a dynasty ppr league that scores yardage and td's for special teams play, you can't move Cobb higher.To assume he ever becomes a top 30 WR in a standard league is not realistic, assuming Rodgers keeps playing at his high levelEven assuming this is Drivers last year, he will be behind Jennings and JFin, never mind Nelson, and then has to compete with Jones for rcpts, as well as the other 35 players Rodgers seems to throw to every game.
i dont employ rigid thinking like that about situations. Cobb is a baller. GB will find ways to use him. I think he can pass Nelson in the next year or two and I just can't discount talent because of the lack of opportunity on the immediate horizon. That being said, Im glad you shared b/c it means Cobbs might still be a buy low.
 
SigUnless your in a dynasty ppr league that scores yardage and td's for special teams play, you can't move Cobb higher.To assume he ever becomes a top 30 WR in a standard league is not realistic, assuming Rodgers keeps playing at his high levelEven assuming this is Drivers last year, he will be behind Jennings and JFin, never mind Nelson, and then has to compete with Jones for rcpts, as well as the other 35 players Rodgers seems to throw to every game.
i dont employ rigid thinking like that about situations. Cobb is a baller. GB will find ways to use him. I think he can pass Nelson in the next year or two and I just can't discount talent because of the lack of opportunity on the immediate horizon. That being said, Im glad you shared b/c it means Cobbs might still be a buy low.
I hope your right. If JFin is not re-signed by the pack, then I think his odds go up considerably. But I still don't see how anyone can assume that he is going to get more than 40/45 rcpts a year with JFin and Jennings soaking up 160 plus rcpts (do you see that decreasing?) and Rodgers demonstrated interest and ability to hit the open receiver, there are just not enough balls thrown.
 
After reading this thread, all I got to say (again) is buy Kendall Hunter because I'd take him over a ton of players listed. Hes looking like Brian Westbrook 2.0

 
I still go AJG at 1.01.

Torrey above Denarius.

Baldwin/Helu/Von Miller/Hankerson all too low.

Vereen could be considered way too low in a few weeks.

 
after what he's done on the field, I'm not sure how/why Helu would be below Little, Ridley, Carter, Vereen, Jones, Powell, etc...?because he's a 4th round pick?
I've seen nothing from Helu to indicate he is anything other than a typical Shanny RB, one who randomly starts 1/3 of games and gets zero carries equally randomly in another 1/3 of games.
not sure I understand the argument. Ridley, Carter, Vereen, Jones, Powell, and Rodgers have all gotten a lot less work.Helu has averaged 5 ypc and caught almost 30 balls...that is much better production than many of the backs ranked ahead of him- part-time role or not
Helu has the Shanny factor. It doesn't matter if he looks solid - Shanny hasn't handed him the starting job. And never fully will. I'd much rather have Little - and probably Ridley (who has looked good), Vereen (far more talented), Carter (also looked good in bursts), and Rodgers (more explosive). Just a personal opinion.
highest scoring RB this week in my format?
 
After reading this thread, all I got to say (again) is buy Kendall Hunter because I'd take him over a ton of players listed. Hes looking like Brian Westbrook 2.0
I am surprised by the love this guy has been getting. He has looked good, but not special. I still gladly take Vereen over him.
 
I'll put in my .02.

1. Cam Newton-Special player

2. AJ Green-Special player

3. Julio Jones-Special player

4. DeMarco Murray-Probably a little over rated right now, but still a good back to have.

5. Jonathan Baldwin-Belichick said he's as good as Julio. Gil Brandt said he's as good as Julio and Green. Hasn't played much with a real QB yet, but when he had Cassel, an eye popping catch was happening every week.

6. Denarius Moore-Looks very good.

7. Andy Dalton-Floor is a QB2. Could develop into much more than that.

8. Mark Ingram-Sproles is special, and PT Cruiser can play. He's got a real workload issue for the next 3-4 years. This spot may even be too high.

9. Torrey Smith-Making some big plays.

10. Randall Cobb-See Torrey, although he may have a problem beating out Jordy.

11. Roy Helu-Finally ahead of Torain, but is he good enough to own a job by himself?

12. Daniel Thomas-Being outplayed by Reggie Bush

13. Vincent Brown-Coming on.

14. Greg Little-I know his QB is no good, but I'd like to see more explosive plays, with all those opportunities.

15. Kendall Hunter-There's a lot of miles and injuries in Frank Gore's resume.

16. Mikel Leshoure-Seas are parting in the DET backfield.

17. Jacquizz Rodgers

18. Julius Thomas-I think year 2 will be a lot better, assuming no Tebow.

19. Christian Ponder

20. Lance Kendricks-Look for a much better year 2 here as well.

21. Leonard Hankerson

22. Titus Young

23. Greg Salas

24. Taiwan Jones

25. Stevan Ridley-Way more talented than this spot, but it would seem doubtful anybody can be counted on going forward in NE.

26. Shane Vereen-See Ridley

27. Dion Lewis-I like him a lot. Just has a young top 3 back ahead of him

28. Jake Locker

29. Delone Carter-Being outplayed by Donald Brown.

30. Colin Kaepernick-Harbaugh looks like a good QB coach, and Alex Smith is averaging less than 200 yards/game passing.

31. Ryan Williams

32. Kyle Rudolph

33. Blaine Gabbert

34. Bilal Powell

35. Ryan Mallet

 
I'll put in my .02.1. Cam Newton-Special player2. AJ Green-Special player3. Julio Jones-Special player4. DeMarco Murray-Probably a little over rated right now, but still a good back to have.5. Jonathan Baldwin-Belichick said he's as good as Julio. Gil Brandt said he's as good as Julio and Green. Hasn't played much with a real QB yet, but when he had Cassel, an eye popping catch was happening every week.6. Denarius Moore-Looks very good.7. Andy Dalton-Floor is a QB2. Could develop into much more than that.8. Mark Ingram-Sproles is special, and PT Cruiser can play. He's got a real workload issue for the next 3-4 years. This spot may even be too high.9. Torrey Smith-Making some big plays.10. Randall Cobb-See Torrey, although he may have a problem beating out Jordy.11. Roy Helu-Finally ahead of Torain, but is he good enough to own a job by himself?12. Daniel Thomas-Being outplayed by Reggie Bush13. Vincent Brown-Coming on.14. Greg Little-I know his QB is no good, but I'd like to see more explosive plays, with all those opportunities.15. Kendall Hunter-There's a lot of miles and injuries in Frank Gore's resume.16. Mikel Leshoure-Seas are parting in the DET backfield.17. Jacquizz Rodgers18. Julius Thomas-I think year 2 will be a lot better, assuming no Tebow.19. Christian Ponder20. Lance Kendricks-Look for a much better year 2 here as well.21. Leonard Hankerson22. Titus Young 23. Greg Salas24. Taiwan Jones25. Stevan Ridley-Way more talented than this spot, but it would seem doubtful anybody can be counted on going forward in NE.26. Shane Vereen-See Ridley27. Dion Lewis-I like him a lot. Just has a young top 3 back ahead of him28. Jake Locker29. Delone Carter-Being outplayed by Donald Brown.30. Colin Kaepernick-Harbaugh looks like a good QB coach, and Alex Smith is averaging less than 200 yards/game passing. 31. Ryan Williams32. Kyle Rudolph33. Blaine Gabbert34. Bilal Powell35. Ryan Mallet
I would love to see if anyone has any other thoughts on this thread. Especially for Ingram and the NE RBs. I love this exercise and speaks to the question of dynasty value in 2012 I think.
 
Jake locker is way too low on most lists. He looked excellent in the playing time he had in the 2nd half. I thought they might give him the job outright after then colts loss.

 
Here is how I look at the 2011 draft.

1 A.J. Green

2 Julio Jones

3 Cam Newton

4 DeMarco Murray

5 Mark Ingram

6 Torrey Smith

7 Roy Helu

8 Andy Dalton

9 Stevan Ridley

10 Kendall Hunter

11 Jonathan Baldwin

12 Daniel Thomas

13 Denarius Moore

14 Ryan Williams

15 Greg Little

16 Titus Young

17 Randall Cobb

18 Mason Foster

19 Von Miller

20 Colin McCarthy

21 Vincent Brown

22 Mikel LeShoure

23 Leonard Hankerson

24 Blaine Gabbert

25 Evan Royster

 
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