If Gordon is to be evaluated under the old policy, doesn't it open up the possibility of the dreaded indefinite suspension (e.g. Justin Blackmon)? i.e. Probability of being suspended for the DUI goes down, whereas the potential magnitude of the suspension rises.
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Josh Gordon escapes new suspension by pleading guilty to DUI charges
Posted by Mike Florio on September 16, 2014, 1:36 PM EDT
Some portions of the new drug policy will be retroactive. Some wont.
Browns receiver Josh Gordon has pleaded guilty to driving while impaired. Under the new drug policy, a first offense will trigger a two-game suspension. Under the old drug policy, a first offense results in no suspension and a maximum fine of $50,000.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Gordon pleaded guilty now to ensure that he will not receive a two-game suspension for the DUI charges.
The guilty plea was submitted by Gordons lawyer; he was not required to appear personally in court. In exchange for the plea, Gordon received a 60-day suspended sentence. He also must pay a $100 fine. His drivers license has been suspended.
Gordon is expected to be suspended a total of 10 games under the new substance-abuse policy. Previously, he had been suspended for the entire 2014 season.
Like I said 40 or so pages ago, the DWI IS no big thing after all.
Now maybe we can move on.
Look at the first sentence here: " some portions of the new drug policy will be retroactive and some won't"
If that isn't illustration enough about how all over the board the league is with this whole hot mess, nothing is.
Through it all, with the latest crap storm we have going on, Gordon looks like Saint Peter compared to Ray Rice, AP, Hardy and McDonald.
He takes his suspension for something that will no longer be failure, the DWI is already ancient history, and no big deal.
Gordon owners have him in their back pocket for money time, and non owners are moving on to the Peterson threads.
Posted by Mike Florio on September 16, 2014, 1:36 PM EDT
Some portions of the new drug policy will be retroactive. Some wont.
Browns receiver Josh Gordon has pleaded guilty to driving while impaired. Under the new drug policy, a first offense will trigger a two-game suspension. Under the old drug policy, a first offense results in no suspension and a maximum fine of $50,000.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Gordon pleaded guilty now to ensure that he will not receive a two-game suspension for the DUI charges.
The guilty plea was submitted by Gordons lawyer; he was not required to appear personally in court. In exchange for the plea, Gordon received a 60-day suspended sentence. He also must pay a $100 fine. His drivers license has been suspended.
Gordon is expected to be suspended a total of 10 games under the new substance-abuse policy. Previously, he had been suspended for the entire 2014 season.
Like I said 40 or so pages ago, the DWI IS no big thing after all.
Now maybe we can move on.
Look at the first sentence here: " some portions of the new drug policy will be retroactive and some won't"
If that isn't illustration enough about how all over the board the league is with this whole hot mess, nothing is.
Through it all, with the latest crap storm we have going on, Gordon looks like Saint Peter compared to Ray Rice, AP, Hardy and McDonald.
He takes his suspension for something that will no longer be failure, the DWI is already ancient history, and no big deal.
Gordon owners have him in their back pocket for money time, and non owners are moving on to the Peterson threads.
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bulger2holt
Footballguy
Are you going to keep him stashed until week 12?
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I intend to hold him through the bye weeks, but he will be one of my first drops if I catch the injury bug and/or fall in the standings. Note:12-team redraft league w/ 16 man rosters and 6 bench spots.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
bulger2holt
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chad in Indy
Footballguy
Not to derail the thread, but how will this affect someone like Justin Blackmon? Would his indefinite ban be lifted?
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
so when is this vote on the new testing policy? when is it effective?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/shutdown-corner/josh-gordon---do-i-believe-i-have-a-drug-problem--definitely-not--204600616.html
To back up that claim, Gordon said on the interview that he went to Cliffside Malibu, a rehabilitation center in California, after he was told of his positive test. And Gordon said the center's determination was he wasn't an addict.
GregR
Footballguy
Josh the FunkDOC
Footballguy
i think it was already voted on by the players' union. they voted in favor of HGH testing and the new marijuana threshold, and those will be in effect this season. the new marijuana policy is retroactive for those currently serving suspensions, hence gordon's reduction.
EDIT: or see the post above me which is probably way more accurate. i just heard this from sports talk radio last week.
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Yeah, what the players voted on last week was a term sheet, not an actual policy. The proposed policy hasn't been drafted yet, as far as I know.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
This is correct, it was already unanimously approved by the NFLPA. They lawyers are writing up the final approved deal for certification by both parties. When it is certified it will be a done deal.
This is already done, it is literally dotting the i's and crossing the t's.
This is incorrect, unless something happened today that I missed.
The player reps voted on a set of terms that they would allow the NFLPA to negotiate into a new policy. The language of any new policy isn't finished, and therefore hasn't been finalized, or even close to it.
Poor reporting has led to this misconception.
There is no new deal in place, and based on recent reports, it may be several weeks before one is in place, if it gets done.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
so no welker this weekend then huh?Greg Russell said:
Now that's not EXACTLY what you said, it it?Ojaays said:
You said he'd plead it down or get it dismissed, and if he didn't, any suspension wouldn't come until well down the road.
Let's not hurt yourself patting yourself on the back, because you had no idea that the league was going to negotiate a new drug policy with this loophole in it.
He probably rearranged the stickers on his Rubik's Cube too.Now that's not EXACTLY what you said, it it?Ojaays said:
You said he'd plead it down or get it dismissed, and if he didn't, any suspension wouldn't come until well down the road.
Let's not hurt yourself patting yourself on the back, because you had no idea that the league was going to negotiate a new drug policy with this loophole in it.
georg013
Footballguy
THANK GOD!!! Now we don't have hear all of the HATERZ clinging on to that last thread of hope that he gets more games tacked on to his 10. B..b..b..ut what about his DUI??!?! Doesn't that come with a lifetime ban? Nope. End of story. Clean slate. Looking forward to a new chapter. Maybe he stays clean maybe he doesn't. One thing is for certain. The HATERZ are running out of ammunition. Click click. Empty chamber.
simey
Footballguy
A lot of people who aren't addicts get DUI/DWIs. It doesn't take much alcohol to blow a .08.
dwashington
Footballguy
Looking at the Browns schedule for Weekw 12-16, is it really worth hanging on for the whole regular season? Bengals and Panthers D are very tough matchups.
12 11/23 @ATL - 0.0 - 13 11/30 @BUF - - - - 0.0 - 14 12/7 IND - - - - 0.0 - 15 12/14 CIN - - - - 0.0 - 16 12/21 @CAR -
12 11/23 @ATL - 0.0 - 13 11/30 @BUF - - - - 0.0 - 14 12/7 IND - - - - 0.0 - 15 12/14 CIN - - - - 0.0 - 16 12/21 @CAR -
RichInOrlando
Footballguy
I'm all in on Gordon. I'd have to have a serious roster issue to drop him. If not, I have no problem managing minus one slot. Gordon was the No. 1 receiver last year. If i have only 25% chance to get that guy in the playoffs I will risk that.
If I can't manage my team minus 1 slot, I am a poor fantasy player. Championships are won by taking risks.
If I can't manage my team minus 1 slot, I am a poor fantasy player. Championships are won by taking risks.
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bulger2holt
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I'd rather take a 0 one week than dropping Gordon.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
What an eccentric performance.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Gordon has played very well in his last 3 games against the Bengals. And while the Panthers D is one of the league's best, it's a long season. Who knows how many injuries they may have on D by then or what will be at stake for both teams in week 16.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Last year there were all kinds of reasons to bechn him - QB carousel, bad QBs, bad weather, wind, matchups.
habsfan
Footballguy
So devil's advocate, with all the drama surrounding Gordon, is it possible people have lost sight of the possibility that he doesn't trot out there in Week 12 and dominate?
Look, my whole thing about getting into this thread in the first place was to make the point that Gordon is Extremely fantasy relevant, until he isn't.
It has all played out, and , after much gnashing of teeth and tearing of clothes, Gordon will play in our last 3 regular season games, for most of us those are division games and then the two playoff weeks.
Gordon was the only guy the Browns had that teams had to stop last year, and even with the worst QB situation in the league, he still led the league playing 14 games.
You don't sit that talent , unless he is injured, period.
habsfan
Footballguy
All I'm saying is sometimes you get in a fight over a girl and half way through you realize she's not worth the beating...
Conroy
Footballguy
Apple Jack
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
BaBastage
Footballguy
This thread is now 216 pages in just over 2 years and 2 months. His career might not measure up in real life, but Josh Gordon's gotta make the FBG Shark Pool Hall of Fame.
Does anyone else know a player averaging 1 page every 4 days for that long?
joey
Footballguy
Strange to me that they seem to be retroactively changing his session-long suspension to be 10 games according to the new rules, but he pleads guilty on his DWI now to avoid other new rules. Shouldn't the new rules also be retroactively applied to all his offenses in the 2014 season, for better or worse? Confusing...
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Alonzo Mosely
Footballguy
very confusing. it's like he's getting different sets of rules from different time frames applied to him at the same time. doesn't sound like he's gonna push it though and will just take the 10. 6 or 8 would be nice though
Alonzo Mosely
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habsfan
Footballguy
I am also holding but aware that he now has ten weeks away from the team to do something stupid.
I'm not his mother but there's something not quite right about walking out of court where you've pleaded out a DUI and heading to a Chevy dealer to buy a Camaro...
False Start
Footballguy
I wouldnt give last nights dump for Richardson, let alone a guy who is on his way back to elite fantasy value.
False Start
Footballguy
The company is letting a guy on a suspended license drive a car? There must be a start date on his suspension or something.
If not, he is already starting to make bad choices again.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I think it was tongue in cheek, since SarchioneChevy is the dealership he's working for now.
