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If he were really a man of principle he wouldn't show up at all. Guess that costs too much.
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Marshawn Lynch -- "I'm here so I won't get fined" (2 Viewers)
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
It's pretty hilarious. But on the other hand, the media is the conduit between the fans and the game. If every other player in the league did the same thing fans would be apoplectic. No postgame quotes, no accountability or explanations of actions on the field, no call-ins to radio shows, etc.
I tend to agree with Sherman's take- if the league wants him to be accountable to the media and by extension the public, the Commissioner's office should do the same.
Capella
Footballguy
Why do you think the media benefits him? He can get to the fans over twitter. #### the media. He doesn't need those ###holes at all.
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MattFancy
Footballguy
I don't think you'd ever see players not talk. There's too many guys around the league that love the attention they get.
I have no problem with what Lynch does. I just think it's dumb for the media to always ##### about it. You know he isn't going to give you anything to write about, so just ignore him. They win by not wasting their time on him and he wins by not wasting his time pretending to care.
Those ###holes are the only reason this ###hole has a job. No media, no coverage; no coverage, no paycheck. Since Lynch's only other noteworthy skills are in the crotch-grabbing, hit and run, and DUI sectors of the economy, he ought to damn glad people still want to see him in the media.
massraider
Footballguy
The various networks don't look that bright when they replay his entire session.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
The General
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
For those of you who are going with the "it's his job schtick". What do you think generates more buzz for the NFL, Lynch doing this or Lynch answering a bunch of stupid questions from Tara Lapinski or the guy walking around wearing a barrel and a GoPro camera.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Because those are the only two people asking questions. And I assure you, the NFL is not pleased with this "buzz"...
biju
Footballguy
I don't understand this statement, but I do know it's the one the media wants you to believe.
I think this is just a little more of my age showing, but I don't need my team to be accessible, quotable, or really anything outside of the game for me to enjoy watching the Seahawks play. I'm not saying my way of being entertained is the only way, but this just doesn't hit my demographic at all...not for actors, musicians, or anyone who I don't have direct interaction with.
Having said all of that, it seems to me a better way to connect is directly, like through twitter. The media just wants a job and couldn't care less about the player or the fan.
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The General
Footballguy
He could have Walter Cronkite and Edward Murrow asking questions and it would end up lame. The whole week is about generating buzz, that what this is doing. Don't see any threads about Danny Amendola saying that he's just happy to be part of the game and he's going to take it one snap at a time.
The guy doesn't like doing it, there are 20 other attention whores on every team who want it.
I would think they will address this in the next deal with the NFL.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Unless you're going to all 16 games + the playoff games in person, guess who enables you to watch the Seahawks play?
MG345
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
No. Unless they're broadcasting the game directly ... in which case they're also part of the media!
And in any event, I don't believe anyone who says that all they need to do to enjoy the game is sit down for the opening kickoff, watch the game (ignoring any content that's not actual live footage), and be done with it as soon as the final whistle blows, never watching or reading anything else about the game. Reading and watching media coverage of the team- the locker room celebration, the profiles of the players, the analysis (including replay), the on-field interviews, the columns profiling the players and the team, the coverage of fellow fans and their reactions to the team ... it's a huge part of the experience Take away the media and it's just 106 idiots running around giving each other brain damage.
The General
Footballguy
Yes. Brings so much more to the game to get a guy in a towel after the game telling me that he left it all on the field.
Guess what a lot of these guys don't have #### all to say.
The General
Footballguy
Only one of these dumb ### interviews that I can even remember in the past 10 years was Lynch and Deion last year. That may even go for regular season.
Only one that I can even think of that comes close right now is drunk Joe Namath on the sidelines.
Only one that I can even think of that comes close right now is drunk Joe Namath on the sidelines.
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Right, that's exactly what I said.
That's just a small part of what the media does to enhance the experience of sports fans. It's moronic to say otherwise. And this is coming from someone who has no problem with what Lynch has done this week.
Let me put it this way- think of your favorite teams. Imagine the local and national media completely ignored them, other than to transmit the footage of the action. No more highlights on the local news, no more Sportscenter, no more RSN pregame and postgame, no more columns in the paper, no beat writers, in fact no sports section at all. Do you think you'd miss it? I know I sure would. Five years from now, what do you think the ratings and ticket sales would look like? If you think they'd be remotely close to their current levels you're out of your mind.
And that's without even getting into the fact that the broadcasts of the games themselves are also obviously a form of media.
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Todem
Footballguy
The media is egging this on by continuing to approach this thug and ask him questions. And make no mistake...Marshawn Lynch is a great NFL RB but a classic thug punk.
Ignore him and he will just go about being the ### clown he is. But why subject us the fans to his childish unprofessional behavior? We don't need to hear him speak. He has nothing to add.
The media should let it go. Just leave the guy alone. He is a lousy interview! And a punk to boot. But man can he pound the rock!
Ignore him and he will just go about being the ### clown he is. But why subject us the fans to his childish unprofessional behavior? We don't need to hear him speak. He has nothing to add.
The media should let it go. Just leave the guy alone. He is a lousy interview! And a punk to boot. But man can he pound the rock!
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The General
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grateful zed
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
Why has the thread title not been changed yet? Marshawn Lynch shows up at camp " I am only here so I won't get fined!!!"
MG345
Footballguy
You missed the point, but that is ok. It is all an attempt to sell the brand, and you are getting caught up in a branding issue, do you not realize that? The sense of moral outrage over this stuff is hilarious.
I couldn't care less what Marshawn Lynch thinks of a reporter's question. Do I enjoy getting to see a side of the players that I wouldn't normally see? Yeah, of course, I am football fan. Do I think anybody benefits from forcing players to answer asinine questions? Nope.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I have no moral outrage, I think the league should give Lynch and others a pass if they want it and the media is going way overboard with the whining. I think we're mostly in agreement here. I was speaking to the argument others seemed to me making that the media wasn't a key part of the sports fan experience. I totally disagree with that.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Yup. Which is why I don't have a problem with Lynch in particular, and I love Sherman calling out the hypocrisy of the league front office which seems to think it has zero accountability to the media and by extension the fans.
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TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
There isn't a single Seahawk fan who wants Marshawn to talk to the media more than he currently does.
The General
Footballguy
Agreed. Said it before but as soon as the NFL gets a chance they'll address this policy somehow. There's no way that this is the way it needs to work.Most players are not like Lynch and would love the attention. The league isn't going to come crashing down because Pete Prisco's feelings get hurt because Lynch doesn't want to sit with him talk to his dumb ###.
I would think a great article from one of these hacks would be to try and figure out why Lynch got so bitter. Instead they write stuff like "can't wait for his 5 minutes of fame to be up, in 5 years he'll by dying for my attention".
Some of these sports writers over inflated egos make the athletes look modest.
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MG345
Footballguy
I think you are lumping all media interactions together, and it is a straw man argument. No one is saying that there should be NO access.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Wait, what?
rockaction
Footballguy
I find this all a little odd. He sat for an E:60 piece about around last year or so, didn't he?
What changed since then?
I thought his act yesterday was childish and boorish, and I'm a pretty big fan of Lynch, even with all his problems. He's been like this all year, for sure, but I'm not really sure that the ™BeastMode stuff and all that wasn't some weird marketing thing, which Kam Chancellor tacitly addressed in his interview by insisting over and over that Lynch wasn't marketing and that he was the real deal. I thought Kam protested too much about something he wasn't asked.
Like most here, I felt no outrage, but Lynch seemed contrived and petulant.
What changed since then?
I thought his act yesterday was childish and boorish, and I'm a pretty big fan of Lynch, even with all his problems. He's been like this all year, for sure, but I'm not really sure that the ™BeastMode stuff and all that wasn't some weird marketing thing, which Kam Chancellor tacitly addressed in his interview by insisting over and over that Lynch wasn't marketing and that he was the real deal. I thought Kam protested too much about something he wasn't asked.
Like most here, I felt no outrage, but Lynch seemed contrived and petulant.
biju
Footballguy
Funny, he explained exactly what it was on that show. The media has not earned Marshawn's trust and the relationship is a two way street. Just because you're some hack journalist doesn't give you free access and that trust must be earned. It's why he trusts Michael Robinson to do interviews, and Deion Sanders for that matter.
I actually love it. Screw the Media, they try to twist stuff all the time and create stories bigger than what they should be. Deflate gate, ad nauseum....
And Marshawn knows it-you think he has forgotten all the stuff written about him for his past transgressions?
Gun charge-Thug
Ran over a woman in his car on a rainy night at 330am(you don't think she was drunk walking in front of the car on the corner?)
I don't trust the media at all, and I think Lynch is getting the last laugh.
And Marshawn knows it-you think he has forgotten all the stuff written about him for his past transgressions?
Gun charge-Thug
Ran over a woman in his car on a rainy night at 330am(you don't think she was drunk walking in front of the car on the corner?)
I don't trust the media at all, and I think Lynch is getting the last laugh.
Capella
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I remember that, and coming away with that impression, but doesn't that seem odd to you? I distinctly thought it was kind of a paradox at the time. To complain about trust and the media while doing a long-form TV interview? I mean, I can see it, but...
I don't want to get too hung up on it, I just thought he did himself poorly yesterday.
eta* BTW, watched that interview twice. I really am kind of a huge appreciator of what he does on the field. He's unreal.
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biju
Footballguy
To me, I get it. If you were to talk to the media about one of your deep, dark secrets would you expect them to cover it honestly or to develop a headline to sensationalize it to generate the most revenue? I know what the shareholders want, and it's usually what they get.
MG345
Footballguy
Gustavo Fring
Footballguy
Deadspin posted an article related to media outlets getting frustrated with Marshawn's antics. Deadspin Article 
No wonder he doesn't talk to these hacks. They are making him look like the bad guy for simply not wanting to take a serious interview with a bunch of snakes in the grass.
No wonder he doesn't talk to these hacks. They are making him look like the bad guy for simply not wanting to take a serious interview with a bunch of snakes in the grass.
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Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Agreed. I love his antics. He's the opposite of Chad Johnson, and I find it much more amusing.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Man, you seem to be angry at everyone all the time. Who hurt you?
People like Skip Bayless and this dooshbag calling for the skittles boycott make up a teeny tiny percentage of sports media. The vast majority of them are decent people working an exhausting job for middle class paychecks because they love sports. Why do they make you so mad?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Guilty by association.
And while you may very well be right that the majority are decent people, they sure do collectively ask a rather large number of stupid questions, write a rather large number of stupid agenda driven articles, and must just be flat out annoying to have to deal with on a regular basis for the players.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Yeah, that's generally what's going on when someone lashes out at a bunch of people for no apparent reason. That or insecurity, I guess. Whatever floats your boatMad?
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Agree. The front office is the problem here. That and the impotence of the player's union.
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