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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (19 Viewers)
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jeaton6
Footballguy
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Am I in the worst trade offer thread?
JPeso
Footballguy
Ertzdmac37 said:
"Probably" mid round, never know. I would take AJ here, but it's not "worst offer" worthy.
Good trade. Freeman still has a lot left in the tank I think.
-OZ-
Footballguy
If not for Anderson's off season issues, I might actually prefer the picks with Robby; depending on the plan for the team.
jeaton6
Footballguy
I’d have to be really confident that was a top 3 pick and that Anderson was getting Cousins and that he would stay out of trouble and that Enunwa wasn’t going to overtake him. Nah, even then not close for me.
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-OZ-
Footballguy
I like Enunwa but I think there's room for both.
Even with mccown (but no Enunwa) Anderson only had 12/ 130/ 1 less than green last year, is 5 years younger, and I thought played pretty well. He's not Green, but the picks make up for that somewhat for a rebuilding team.
I wouldn't do this trade now, and it really isn't close now. I'm just saying before his antics this off season it could have been a decent move.
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Boston
Footballguy
No reason to make this move...you can definitely do better than that...this is a trade just to make a trade...
Superflex league with deep rosters...not involved:
Team A gets Pat Mahomes, late 3rd
Team B gets 1.3, 2019 1st, 2019 3rd
I haven't played in superflex, so would love to get the sense from those who do whether this is really in line with QB value in that format. Seems rich to me and my traditional format sensibilities...
Team A gets Pat Mahomes, late 3rd
Team B gets 1.3, 2019 1st, 2019 3rd
I haven't played in superflex, so would love to get the sense from those who do whether this is really in line with QB value in that format. Seems rich to me and my traditional format sensibilities...
-OZ-
Footballguy
Looks ugly to me even if it were 2QB. Although it might depend to some degree on number of teams and where the top rookie QB usually goes. I prefer Mahomes by a little bit to any rookie QB but not by this much.
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bostonfred
Footballguy
It definitely is rich but that offer wouldn't get an elite qb, so this could still work out to be a value, and obviously both teams involved think he's really good.
My problem with it isn't so much the price, it's that unless this is guy owns Brady or something, he's planning on starting mahomes right away, but still gave up his 2019 first. I'm not convinced mahomes is ready to be a top fantasy option in his first year as a starter
NeverEnough
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
True, but let's reassess after the combine, then draft. I suspect by May you might be able to get Mahomes straight (or without adding much) for whoever the #2 QB is at that time.
bostonfred
Footballguy
I'll give you 3 equally talented qbs and you can pick one to invest heavily in. The guy from Cleveland, the jets or Kansas city.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
All of my leauges have contract year limits and taxi squads. It's entirely possible to stash Barkley on DTS for his first year or two until the team is competitive. Starting that contract clock ticking before you have to is risky at best and disastrous at worst.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Just about all stud college players get 200-300 touches per year. He also spread those out over an extra calendar year, so he's not going to be high mileage for a guy his age.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Is one of those leagues the league in question here? I didn't see them mention anything about this in that league so I don't see how this is relevant. It looks like it's a normal, non-contract dynasty league. It's not a real point worth considering there.
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Hankmoody
Footballguy
Your words were "If Barkley hits no one in any real league". I assure you my leagues are quite real. I'm sure there are a whole lot of posters here that play in similar leagues that would probably agree their leagues are real. I'll let him answer whether his league is similar or not, but from where I sit you're the one making the ridiculous point.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Holy cow dude you are being pedantic. Use some context here. 2 of my 3 "dynasty" leagues are actually contract leagues with taxi squads so I get how those leagues work, but it was pretty obvious what the context of the conversation was here.
But you're right, I did use the word "any". So I guess next time when someone says "I'll take OBJ over Trey Burton in any league" you'll jump in here to
them that in a start 12 TE and 1 WR league where you get 50 bonus points if your last name rhymes with flirtin', Trey has more value.Next time I'll spell it out more clearly. No one in a situation like he was describing with a stud scorer on their active roster is going to sit them on their bench all year to get a better draft pick unless they're playing in some garbage high school B-league where people don't care if a team just benches all their good players for 13 games to tank. He even mentioned it being unethical so it's pretty clear he wasn't talking about putting him on a TS prior to the season in a contract league. His whole point was that if you have DJ you have a shorter window so it doesn't make sense to not play your good players and try to win instead of just going full on tank mode and benching the guys that actually score fantasy points. It was a silly point that has no place in any serious fantasy league.
Better?
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Hankmoody
Footballguy
I took you at the words you wrote. You want me to start assuming you mean something other than what you wrote? Yeah that's going to get good results on the Internet. But sure, I'll do that. I'll start by assuming you meant I would brag about something worth bragging about rather than the format of my leagues - my salary perhaps? It's quite generous after all.FreeBaGeL said:
And again, the leagues I am in are quite serious. Not sure why or with what authority you find id necessary to dismiss taxi-style leagues, they are quite popular. You could have made your point just as well without being condescending about it.
bostonfred
Footballguy
One More Rep
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I know a lot of people have IDP trades but don't post them here because they are harder for those that don't play in the format to assess, so I created an IDP-centric version of this thread in the IDP forum:
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/765071-2018-offseason-idp-trades-completed-trades-only-please/
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/765071-2018-offseason-idp-trades-completed-trades-only-please/
-OZ-
Footballguy
Its more than that.
A. Mahomes
B. Josh Rosen, browns
C. Baker Mayfield, Jets
D. Josh Allen, broncos
E. Lamar Jackson, cardinals
You'll get to pick your choice of 3 from the bottom 4. I think most people would prefer Mahomes and I wouldn't disagree. But I think the value will be closer than it is today, closer than a 1st anyway.
Eta: and this is ignoring Guice and this is superflex, not start 2. So maybe you'd prefer Guice to Mahomes, depending on scoring and settings. I don't remember if it was said, is this a 12 team league?
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joey
Footballguy
I’m *this* close to taking the 2.1 for Watkins if offered it. I think I’d take the Collins/2.1 side if I weren’t weaker at WR than RB in the league Where I own Watkins. I’m about ready to jump off the Watkins train though.
TL;DR version: looks like a fair trade to me.
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
12 Team PPR
Team A got A Robinson, E Sanders
Team B got D Thomas, A Jeffrey, C Clement
Team A got A Robinson, E Sanders
Team B got D Thomas, A Jeffrey, C Clement
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I would go with pick 3 and the 2019 1st even if projected late. Seems like a future 1st for free in this draft where there is a top talent RB and at least a few really good QB prospects.
One More Rep
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Ditto.
Fun fact. Arob's "bad" year that hurt his value was better than the year Alshon just had that somehow raised his value, despite Arob doing it in a much worse situation.
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
12 team PPR
Team A got AJ Green (contract was at 0)
Team B got B Cooks
Team A got AJ Green (contract was at 0)
Team B got B Cooks
Hankmoody
Footballguy
What is Cooks' contract at? What is the impact of Green's 0 contract - is there some type of FA process you have to bid/draft/pay for him? This looks like league parameters matter a lot here.
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
Contracts expire after 3 years owner has until 15 March to trade or release AJG. Cooks has 3 years left. Once player is traded the new owner has 3 years.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
It’s a good deal then- an asset that was set to disappear is now an asset.Matt's Eagles said:
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Really? I can see preferring that side but landslide? I’ll take the ar15 side myself, I’m with @FreeBaGeL with the alshon assesment.
bostonfred
Footballguy
I am not totally off the Alshon train, but the dude hasn't had a 100 yard game since week 1 2016. That's concerning.
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
10-team PPR league with IDP
Gave Brandin Cooks + 2.08
Got Amari Cooper
Gave Brandin Cooks + 2.08
Got Amari Cooper
Snorkelson
Footballguy
drewd_21
Footballguy
Ben & Jerry's
Footballguy
12 team .5ppr IDP dynasty
WR Chris Godwin
for
2.06
WR Chris Godwin
for
2.06
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JPeso
Footballguy
DT and Jeffery both likely match AR in short-term scoring in my book, I’ll take the free starter.
Mediocre year for AR and then where is his value? Expecting DeDe and Cole to have roles much bigger than any competition AR had in his last big year.
A move to add a free starter like this allows me to be more aggressive in trading points to buy a rookie/2nd year guy elsewhere.
Not/never been super high on Robinson. Jeffery is the best player in the deal for me.
