Jones and Picks by an absolute landslide here12 team FFPC style (disbanding after 2020 jackpot season)
Team A gives Golladay, 2.09
Team B gives Ronald Jones, 1.10, 2020 1st (guessing in the middle - his team is not bad but not good, IDK)
The team moving Golladay is stacked at WR (and RB) and is just looking for some value I think. Jones will go on his taxi and he cleared a roster spot before cutting to 16 next week.
No consensus number 1 until the draft clears things up, as per usual.While I agree with your initial reaction here with this particular draft it seems reasonable with no real consensus #1, at this point of the offseason. That said I’d wait a week and see if someone leaps up with a good landing spot.
Based on what?It’s so impressive you can see the future! Please tell us what else will happen at draft time or better yet, how these rookies will pan out years later!
Duh the guy sold low and should have gotten the 1.06 or 1.07, but the point remains that this is the least desireable 1.01 seen in ever(?)
Brown, not the close for me12 team PPR
A.Brown for
C.Samuels, 2.03, 2.11, 3.11 and a 2020 2nd.
Awful exit on AB.12 team PPR
A.Brown for
C.Samuels, 2.03, 2.11, 3.11 and a 2020 2nd.
Thats...really bad. Now if it were D.J. Moore instead of Samuels, I could get on board with that.12 team PPR
A.Brown for
C.Samuels, 2.03, 2.11, 3.11 and a 2020 2nd.
:spittake:Team A gives: 1.01
Team B gives: Tyler Boyrd, 1.07, 2.07
1QB PPR
That's a decent Guice price. Fair trade.12 team ppr ( qrwwwftkd)
The Federation gave up Guice, Derrius WAS RB and Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.03
and icemen gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.07 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.11
2 nice picks for sure but I'd hold Guice. I think he's easily the 1.1 this year and in a good spot long term12 team ppr ( qrwwwftkd)
The Federation gave up Guice, Derrius WAS RB and Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.03
and icemen gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.07 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.11
Easy deal to make for hillNever been more nervous about a trade I just made, 12 team PPR dynasty
Gave: Golladay and Eifert
Got: T. Hill
With my luck, he'll be cut within hours
I agree. I’m not sold that Golladay is a future #1. He’s a nice piece, but this is a good gamble, considering Tyreek is a top 10 asset if and when he makes it back to the field.Easy deal to make for hill
Guice and not particularily close for me, even in a start 1 RB league.12 team ppr ( qrwwwftkd)
The Federation gave up Guice, Derrius WAS RB and Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.03
and icemen gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.07 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.11
I'm Team B, Team A offered the trade. I'm pretty down on this rookie class, but I thought that was a fair price for my pick of this litter of runts. With my luck I'll pick wrong, though.:spittake:Team A gives: 1.01
Team B gives: Tyler Boyrd, 1.07, 2.07
1QB PPR
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12 team ppr ( qrwwwftkd)
The Federation gave up Guice, Derrius WAS RB and Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.03
and icemen gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.07 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.11
That's how I see it. Right now I'd take Guice at 1.1, a chance exists he could drop to 2 after the draft but don't see it worse then that and it might be the gap between him and the guy who will actually go 1.1 in drafts is sizeable. Only thing I'd hate about the trade losing fun angle of having those two picks but I suppose that's why they call it rookie fever, I get struck with it every year.2 nice picks for sure but I'd hold Guice. I think he's easily the 1.1 this year and in a good spot long term
I like the gamble and unless Hill got banned for life, even if things went so south he'd got cut and banished for a year, I'd still take Hill.Never been more nervous about a trade I just made, 12 team PPR dynasty
Gave: Golladay and Eifert
Got: T. Hill
With my luck, he'll be cut within hours
1.6 for me, easily.Another trade I just made in a 12 team PPR league
Gave: Crowder, 1.11, 2.10
Got: 1.6
I felt I probably over paid but I'm loaded in this league and needed to cut down on total players/picks.
Why the third degree? You don't worry about rosters in April, you worry about value. Give me the better side of the trade every time and I'll have a ton more equity to work with come September when you need to worry about filling starting lineups. Personally I couldn't care less about the league and owners involved, those are just ways to rationalize bad decisions.I think that Ratbone sort of hit it on the head, except a little background on the two teams involved - including present roster and owners' backgrounds and/or track record in this league would help all concerned to make a more-informed commentary.
Good God.12 team PPR
A.Brown for
C.Samuels, 2.03, 2.11, 3.11 and a 2020 2nd.
Me too. Since the OP stated he needed to make roster space I think it makes even more sense.1.6 for me, easily.
It's possible there ends up being no or little difference between the guys at 1.6 and 1.11 but that is a very cheap price to pay in case there is, which I think is the more likely scenario anyway.
I think you did very wellAnother trade I just made in a 12 team PPR league
Gave: Crowder, 1.11, 2.10
Got: 1.6
I felt I probably over paid but I'm loaded in this league and needed to cut down on total players/picks.
Unless that 2020 1st is guarantee'd to be 1.01 I'll happily take Keenan Allen12 team PPR IDP league
K Allen LAC WR, J Howard Phil RB'
For
T Cohen Chi Rb, K Ballage Mia RB and 2020 1st round pick
Unless that 2020 was not a powerhouse team, one that looked like sure thing 10-12 type pick, I'd for sure go the other way and take Cohen, who gave you 90% of the production of Allen last year, and the pick.Unless that 2020 1st is guarantee'd to be 1.01 I'll happily take Keenan Allen
I'm confident enough that Cohen had his career best year and won't repeat. Allen is still a top WR asset. You can have Cohen at his 57 ADP, I'll take Keenan at his 21 ADP.Unless that 2020 was not a powerhouse team, one that looked like sure thing 10-12 type pick, I'd for sure go the other way and take Cohen, who gave you 90% of the production of Allen last year, and the pick.
Yea I'm not confident that 23 year old out of tiny NC A&T had his best season and would in fact argue heavily against it. Cohen was RB14 in PPG and Allen WR18 so Cohen was every bit as much of a top RB asset last year as Allen was a WR and don't really see that changing myself and yes I'd certainly feel value of Cohen at 57 trumps value of Allen at 21.I'm confident enough that Cohen had his career best year and won't repeat. Allen is still a top WR asset. You can have Cohen at his 57 ADP, I'll take Keenan at his 21 ADP.
Does everyone hate Jordan Howard so much that he doesn’t even get noticed in this trade? If a Rb gets drafted to phi in rd 3/4 they probably become a top 5 pick (in some minds) but they acquire a guy with a couple good seasons and he’s done. I don’t get it.12 team PPR IDP league
K Allen LAC WR, J Howard Phil RB'
For
T Cohen Chi Rb, K Ballage Mia RB and 2020 1st round pick
I struggle with what to make of Lockett so saying that it seems like a fair deal but unless I'm rebuilding I'd take AJG. Actually made a somewhat similar offer, one I'd label a tad weaker, in our league for AJG a few weeks ago and obviously was rejected.FFPC
AJ Green
for
Lockett, 1.9
I noticed him but in context of Howard vs Ballage I'd for sure take Ballage.Does everyone hate Jordan Howard so much that he doesn’t even get noticed in this trade? If a Rb gets drafted to phi in rd 3/4 they probably become a top 5 pick (in some minds) but they acquire a guy with a couple good seasons and he’s done. I don’t get it.
Yes. Philly will be an RBBC until proven otherwise. Howard isn't going to be the guy that changes that. He has value but I wouldn't even want him on my roster to be honest. That said I'm not sure I wouldn't take the Allen side anyway.Does everyone hate Jordan Howard so much that he doesn’t even get noticed in this trade? If a Rb gets drafted to phi in rd 3/4 they probably become a top 5 pick (in some minds) but they acquire a guy with a couple good seasons and he’s done. I don’t get it.
I feel Howard is way better than their committee guys. Even last year he topped 1000 total yards. It’s a pretty good offense, and the guys there haven’t exactly proven effective. Seems like a good buy low candidate to me.Yes. Philly will be an RBBC until proven otherwise. Howard isn't going to be the guy that changes that. He has value but I wouldn't even want him on my roster to be honest. That said I'm not sure I wouldn't take the Allen side anyway.
The pick could really be anywhere. That team finished in 4th place last year but the year before finished in 10th place the year before.Unless that 2020 1st is guarantee'd to be 1.01 I'll happily take Keenan Allen
Cohen side by a hefty amount here. This is about 70% a free 2020 1st for me.12 team PPR IDP league
K Allen LAC WR, J Howard Phil RB'
For
T Cohen Chi Rb, K Ballage Mia RB and 2020 1st round pick
Cohen was so inconsistent for a second straight year. His scoring std deviation is very high. 5 games under 10 and 5 over 20. Give me Allen’s significantly more consistent output with only 1 or 2 under 10 and 4-5 over 20. I don’t think many would agree he’s as much a top RB asset as Allen is WR. Perhaps more opportunity this year....the draft will sort that out a bit.Yea I'm not confident that 23 year old out of tiny NC A&T had his best season and would in fact argue heavily against it. Cohen was RB14 in PPG and Allen WR18 so Cohen was every bit as much of a top RB asset last year as Allen was a WR and don't really see that changing myself and yes I'd certainly feel value of Cohen at 57 trumps value of Allen at 21.
No way. Allen is worth 3 Cohens. The 2020 1st doesn't do enough to get you from Cohen to Allen.Cohen side by a hefty amount here. This is about 70% a free 2020 1st for me.
Allen is worth 1.25 Cohen's IMO. That's where we diverge.No way. Allen is worth 3 Cohens. The 2020 1st doesn't do enough to get you from Cohen to Allen.
Howard and Ballage are about equally worthless right now, but Ballage has more upside.
I believe that is a rather hot take unless I'm out of the loop on consensus player valuation.Allen is worth 1.25 Cohen's IMO. That's where we diverge.
I feel like we're comparing a top 10-15 WR to a top 10-15 RB. Allen has more track record which is why I'm giving the .25I believe that is a rather hot take unless I'm out of the loop on consensus player valuation.
Eta: in my last 2 recent SF startups, Cohen went in the 6th and 7th and Allen went in the 3rd in both.