Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I may be in the minority but I see Moore & McLaurin as pretty close.
So for me it’s a relatively easy call to take the 2 draft picks on team A side.
I’m sure others will disagree, but I do think it’s a fair deal.
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So for me it’s a relatively easy call to take the 2 draft picks on team A side.
I’m sure others will disagree, but I do think it’s a fair deal.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I think this is pretty fair. I like Scary Terry a decent amount more than Moore and those are late 2nds so I'd go with the Team B side personally but I am lower on Moore than most. I don't have a problem with anyone taking either side.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC SuperFlex
Gave Wentz for 2022 1st and 3rd
Different FFPC SF
Gave Winston for 2022 1st
I've got a surplus of QBs in these two and looking at cutting players like TY Hilton and Landry. Would like to make room for the Stevenson kid as well.
Gave Wentz for 2022 1st and 3rd
Different FFPC SF
Gave Winston for 2022 1st
I've got a surplus of QBs in these two and looking at cutting players like TY Hilton and Landry. Would like to make room for the Stevenson kid as well.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Both solid value for you.
in the Winston deal, i might have waited, but that’s a double edged sword, obviously. if he flashes greatness maybe you get a better package back. But there’s a possibility that with a larger sample size Winston’s warts would show up.
So yeah - no knock on the trade, but like John candy in Stripes, I’m a gambler.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Dynasty:
Lamar Jackson
Antonio Gibson
'22 2nd rounder (early to mid)
for
Matthew Stafford
Dalvin Cook
'22 1st rounder (early)
Lamar Jackson
Antonio Gibson
'22 2nd rounder (early to mid)
for
Matthew Stafford
Dalvin Cook
'22 1st rounder (early)
foxco
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
12 team PPR. 1QB.
Team A gave: T. Hill
Team B gave: C. Lamb, 2022 1st (late)
Team A gave: T. Hill
Team B gave: C. Lamb, 2022 1st (late)
DropKick
Footballguy
Lamb and the pick. Hill has more immediate upside but Lamb is younger and the pick is gravy.
Tonycarpenter
Footballguy
- 10 Team PPR Dynasty Start 2QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1W/T, 1W/R, 1W/R/T all TD 6pts. QBs favored.
- 8/8 TRADE: RB Ron Jones for QB Matt Ryan. (I gave RoJo and got Ryan for Watson Insurance)
- 8/25 TRADE: WR Hopkins, PittmanJr, JReagor and 3rd Rd 2022 For Jonathan Taylor, JMcKinnon, 2nd 2022 pick.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
FFPC Pros vs Joes BB SF (2020 Startup), one of the Pro's left in a huff over what he considered an offensive FPC tweet (oy)
So new owner comes in today and makes all of the following moves, only 1 of which I am involved with. Why am I writing all this up? Hell if I know, but I thought it was interesting.
New owner
Gave
Rodgers, Aaron (QB), GB
Kelce, Travis (TE), KC
Gordon, Melvin (RB), DEN
Golladay, Kenny (WR), NYG
Got
Chubb, Nick (RB), CLE
Moore, D.J. (WR), CAR
Jones, Daniel (QB), NYG
Fant, Noah (TE), DEN
2022 1st, 2022 2nd, 2022 3rd
Gave
Harris, Najee (RB), PIT
St. Brown, Amon-Ra (WR), DET
Got (from Pro)
Montgomery, David (RB), CHI
Jeudy, Jerry (WR), DEN
2022 1st
Gave
Mattison, Alexander (RB), MIN
Got
2022 2nd
Gave
Russell Wilson
Got
Stafford
Goedert
* Last one is me Getting Wilson
So in total he gave:
Rodgers Aaron, Russell Wilson
Harris Najee, Gordon Melvin, Mattison Alexander
Golladay Kenny, St. Brown Amon-Ra
Kelce Travis
And got:
Stafford Matt, Jones Daniel
Chubb Nick, Montgomery David
Moore D.J., Jeudy Jerry
Fant Noah, Goedert Dallas
2 2022 1sts
2 2022 2nds
2022 3rd
IMO:
Huge downgrade at QB
Slight upgrade at RB
Big upgrade at WR
Big downgrade at TE, but if building for future, 2 good young players
Big upgrade for 2022 DRAFT
The team he took over from the "pro" was pretty mediocre\bad imo. (I have the original and final rosters if there is any interest in seeing them). I'm a microwave rebuild kinda guy but I know at least one musician who isn't.
So new owner comes in today and makes all of the following moves, only 1 of which I am involved with. Why am I writing all this up? Hell if I know, but I thought it was interesting.
New owner
Gave
Rodgers, Aaron (QB), GB
Kelce, Travis (TE), KC
Gordon, Melvin (RB), DEN
Golladay, Kenny (WR), NYG
Got
Chubb, Nick (RB), CLE
Moore, D.J. (WR), CAR
Jones, Daniel (QB), NYG
Fant, Noah (TE), DEN
2022 1st, 2022 2nd, 2022 3rd
Gave
Harris, Najee (RB), PIT
St. Brown, Amon-Ra (WR), DET
Got (from Pro)
Montgomery, David (RB), CHI
Jeudy, Jerry (WR), DEN
2022 1st
Gave
Mattison, Alexander (RB), MIN
Got
2022 2nd
Gave
Russell Wilson
Got
Stafford
Goedert
* Last one is me Getting Wilson
So in total he gave:
Rodgers Aaron, Russell Wilson
Harris Najee, Gordon Melvin, Mattison Alexander
Golladay Kenny, St. Brown Amon-Ra
Kelce Travis
And got:
Stafford Matt, Jones Daniel
Chubb Nick, Montgomery David
Moore D.J., Jeudy Jerry
Fant Noah, Goedert Dallas
2 2022 1sts
2 2022 2nds
2022 3rd
IMO:
Huge downgrade at QB
Slight upgrade at RB
Big upgrade at WR
Big downgrade at TE, but if building for future, 2 good young players
Big upgrade for 2022 DRAFT
The team he took over from the "pro" was pretty mediocre\bad imo. (I have the original and final rosters if there is any interest in seeing them). I'm a microwave rebuild kinda guy but I know at least one musician who isn't.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
so he blew up his team - took a downgrade at QB, upgraded WR & TE, and got a couple 1sts and a 2nd? And got younger in the process. I don’t see what good Kelce does a rebuilding mediocre team.
I don’t love the 2nd deal, as Harris is the kind of piece one typically builds around.
But overall it’s not the worst rebuild I’ve seen.
what was the tweet, and by left in a Huff, you mean “quit the league”?
Fascinating.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
I don't hate it either, like I said I am a microwave type of rebuilder but me thinks Chad would not agree. Yes the guy quit and I will PM you on what happened.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
wgoldsph
Footballguy
Looking at it as a whole I think I like it. Strafford has great potential for this season, and I'm sure Jones can be cut with no looking back. Losing Harris hurts but Chubb is better, and a 2nd for a backup rb can be robbery if it's early. Jeudy is the only WR I like in that group until Darnold leaves Carolina and when that happens next year it's a big win. And kelce stings, but fant should be a good safety valve for teddy who just got named starter. Then you've got a handful of picks...
Thumbs up new guy.
battlestar
Footballguy
12 team PPR Sf Te Premium start 1Qb , 2 RBs, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Superflex
sent James Robinson
received Allen Robinson
Leaves me with Cook and Swift and not much else at RB so need to shore that up but couldn’t pass up on the value upgrade. Even though I love Robinson for this year.
Thanks to those who chimed in, in the other threads.
sent James Robinson
received Allen Robinson
Leaves me with Cook and Swift and not much else at RB so need to shore that up but couldn’t pass up on the value upgrade. Even though I love Robinson for this year.
Thanks to those who chimed in, in the other threads.
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Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Dynasty Superflex PPR
Gave Albert O, 2022 projected late 3rd
Got Dwayne Haskins
People may not love it but low risk for Haskins, a guy who I don't love but there's a chance he's a starter in the future.
Gave Albert O, 2022 projected late 3rd
Got Dwayne Haskins
People may not love it but low risk for Haskins, a guy who I don't love but there's a chance he's a starter in the future.
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Atomic Punk
Footballguy
After sending out eight offers that included Stevenson, with five not being responded to at all and timed out, one finally got accepted ...
Gave: Stevenson, V. Jefferson
Got: OBJ
Im hopeful OBJ has another big season in him and I needed some WR depth on this squad.
Gave: Stevenson, V. Jefferson
Got: OBJ
Im hopeful OBJ has another big season in him and I needed some WR depth on this squad.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
Great deal IMO. OBJ is only 28/29 and still produces as a fantasy starter when healthy. I've got Stevenson in a few places as a 3rd round rookie pick and I'd happily cash in for that kind of return.
Boston
Footballguy
In super-flex this is just a dumb trade for the other guy...just dumb...Haskins was a disaster in Washington but he is still 24 and could not be in a better spot to get a second chance and everything I have read says he is making the most of this opportunity...the other guy just received a bag of donuts with virtually zero upside for a guy who could pay huge dividends in the SF format...why? Why make this deal? There is no reason to do this deal...none!
Atomic Punk
Footballguy
My thinking exactly. I also own a lot of Van Jefferson shares. Although I’m rooting for him, I’m not sure if he’ll ever amount to much. This deal also helps me thin out my roster to pick up a Defence and Kicker before week 1.
rockaction
Footballguy
The fantasy Twitter has been alive with pros virtue signaling lately, especially in regard to that tweet. Oh my, was that ever innocent back in the day. What are we, second wave feminists like Gloria Steinem and Eleanor Smeal? Even the feminists of the nineties, who were truly radical, had no problem with stuff like that so long as it was understood that females were just as capable as men were. It's the men virtue signaling who are offended. So stupid. It's why the term "white knighting," despite its negative connotation, rings so true for things like that.
Look, the community could use some diversity and different voices, but doesn't it seem like some of the hiring hasn't been done along the lines of competence? I mean, Stephanie Smalls got hired at PFN and admitted she didn't even rank players. What the hell is that? Then her own tweets betrayed her and she got cancelled. There's been an obvious movement at FBG to do this with their podcasts, and I'm not sure they're for the better. I see the tweets from the men and women, and they're not exactly mind-blowing tweets or subjects.
So there's a lot of stupid stuff on Twitter. Which is par for that course, of course. Makes me not want to look at it, really.
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
Roster space. A 3rd is worth more than what you get when you cut someone. Which is 0. A 3rd > 0. Not sure if that applies in this since it wasn't my league but I wouldn't be keeping Haskins. I don't disagree that he could ripen but my rosters simply do not have room. So there is possibly a reason and a good one.
ETA I should have said I am assuming he cuts Albert O
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JamboTaylor
Footballguy
14 team SF
JRob
for
Mac Jones
JRob
for
Mac Jones
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
This is a monster trade. I could get behind both sides if you aren't a Gibson believer like some of the people that are way high on him. Getting Cook and a 1st along with Stafford is a good return> I probably lean toward the Lamar/Gibson side slightly but I could totally understand the argument on both sides.massraider said:
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
barackdhouse said:
Good point. This is an often overlooked & underappreciated aspect of multi-player deals. The best trade calcs account for the +1 or -1 roster room resulting from such trades.
In a 2:1 deal it's 2:1+1 roster spot. That definitely has value.
I still think the team getting Haksins is making a smart investment & getting a really good deal, but it's a little closer when considering potential roster limitations.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
A good sell-high on JRob.
I'm sure JRob truthers will disagree. I am lower on JRob this year & beyond than many, so gimme the Mac Jones side in SF all day. I think it's a bargain for a QB of the future of the Pats.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
OK, I've been rolling this over in my noodle & I can't pick a side. So it's a fair deal.massraider said:
Personally, I would want the Stafford/Cook/1st side, because
- not a long-term believer in LJax (but I could be wrong)
- Cook > Gibson (but I'm not as high on Gibson, though warming up)
- early 2022 1st rounder
So from my perspective that's the better side of the deal, but I don't know if it's a clear-cut win either way value-wise. LJax & Gibson could certainly have more long-term value than Stafford/Cook.
Big boy trade for sure.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
This went down in one of my 16 team leagues. I voiced my concern but only 1 other owner thought it was worth discussing. I think it’s a terrible trade.
Jakobi Meyers
For
T Pollard
L Shenault
Jakobi Meyers
For
T Pollard
L Shenault
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Thats a terrible trade.This went down in one of my 16 team leagues. I voiced my concern but only 1 other owner thought it was worth discussing. I think it’s a terrible trade.
Jakobi Meyers
For
T Pollard
L Shenault
was “giving a key to a train station locker with compromising photos” included in the Meyers side?
If not, I have no idea why the Viska/Pollard side would do that.
This guy must think Meyers is the WR1 for NE, and excited about Mac Jones.This went down in one of my 16 team leagues. I voiced my concern but only 1 other owner thought it was worth discussing. I think it’s a terrible trade.
Jakobi Meyers
For
T Pollard
L Shenault
And he must also think that Shenault is a gadget player on a team stuck in a morass of despair.
I never know how to value Pollard, could be anywhere from a 1st to a 3rd.
lardonastick
Footballguy
12 team superflex, 0.5 ppr. Not involved
Mahomes and Henne
For
Z. Wilson, B. Edwards, D. Mooney, 2023 1st
-----------
6 pt TDs, -1 INTs, and bonuses for 300+ and 400+ yd games.
Light for Mahomes imo
Mahomes and Henne
For
Z. Wilson, B. Edwards, D. Mooney, 2023 1st
-----------
6 pt TDs, -1 INTs, and bonuses for 300+ and 400+ yd games.
Light for Mahomes imo
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
that’s too light by a 1st round player/pick, and an upgrade from Edwards.
Mahomes side for me, regardless of scoring system.
Boone22
Footballguy
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Boston
Footballguy
Yuck...what is the team dealing Mahomes hoping to accomplish here? IMO Mahomes is the #1 asset in SF and should be for a long time...I like Wilson but he is still an unknown...I am very high on Mooney but not gonna pretend he is the next DKM or AJ Brown...Edwards is very intriguing but doesn't move the needle one bit for me when we are talking about Mahomes and the #1 is two years from now...this is a horrible trade and in a very best case scenario it is still not a good deal because it would take about 30 seconds to get a much better offer from the other 10 teams in this league...gotta say yuck again on this one.
jabarony
Footballguy
Actually the offer is better in SF as Wilson is essentially worthless in 1 QB. Not that it matters, even if it's 0 QB, I'm still taking Mahomes!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
12 team Superflex. 40 roster spots.
Team A gave: Sony Michel
Team B gave: D. Fitpatrick, 2022 2nd
Team A gave: Sony Michel
Team B gave: D. Fitpatrick, 2022 2nd
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Chad Parsons
Moderator
12tm 2QB TE Prem
(Wrinkle is can only keep 1QB on your roster for a 2nd year, the rest go back into the annual draft, and the kept QB goes back into the pool following Y2)
Rhamondre Stevenson, 22 4th, 22 6th
FOR
22 2nd
(Wrinkle is can only keep 1QB on your roster for a 2nd year, the rest go back into the annual draft, and the kept QB goes back into the pool following Y2)
Rhamondre Stevenson, 22 4th, 22 6th
FOR
22 2nd
Chad Parsons
Moderator
12tm PPR
22 4th
FOR
Cole Beasley
Team was light at WR
22 4th
FOR
Cole Beasley
Team was light at WR
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
you get some good deals in your league. This is a beyond dumb offer from the other guy even if it somehow works out for him.
12 team ppr
2 interesting deals (not involved)
-
Ginn&Juice gave up Bateman, Rashod BAL WR; Meyers, Jakobi NEP WR; Year 2022 Round 1 Draft Pick from Ginn&Juice
The Rowdy Footballer's gave up Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB; Rams, Los Angeles LAR Def
Wed Aug 25 5:18:21 p.m. ET 2021
The Rowdy Footballer's gave up Ekeler, Austin LAC RB; Parker, DeVante MIA WR
katys kriminals g1gave up Etienne, Travis JAC RB; Moore, Elijah NYJ WR
Wed Aug 25 6:01:32 a.m. ET 2021
2 interesting deals (not involved)
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Ginn&Juice gave up Bateman, Rashod BAL WR; Meyers, Jakobi NEP WR; Year 2022 Round 1 Draft Pick from Ginn&Juice
The Rowdy Footballer's gave up Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB; Rams, Los Angeles LAR Def
Wed Aug 25 5:18:21 p.m. ET 2021
The Rowdy Footballer's gave up Ekeler, Austin LAC RB; Parker, DeVante MIA WR
katys kriminals g1gave up Etienne, Travis JAC RB; Moore, Elijah NYJ WR
Wed Aug 25 6:01:32 a.m. ET 2021
