Steel Curtainrod
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12 team ppr qb/2rb/3wr/te/k/dt
A gave: Mccaffrey, 2019 2nd
B gave: 2018 1.2, Thielen
A gave: Mccaffrey, 2019 2nd
B gave: 2018 1.2, Thielen
1.2 and Thielen by a lot, for me.12 team ppr qb/2rb/3wr/te/k/dt
A gave: Mccaffrey, 2019 2nd
B gave: 2018 1.2, Thielen
12 team ppr qb/2rb/3wr/te/k/dt
A gave: Mccaffrey, 2019 2nd
B gave: 2018 1.2, Thielen
easily.1.2 and Thielen by a lot, for me.
Crowell/MichelPPR superflex
A will give
Watkins, Sammy KCC WR
Year 2019 Round 2 Draft Pick (probably mid)
B will give
Crowell, Isaiah NYJ RB
Michel, Sony NEP RB
I think there is a pretty decent dropoff this year after 7 and then again after 13. All it takes is one person reaching for that 2.2 to be worth basically the same as the 1.11. So I will take the 1.6 side here, handily.12 Team PPR: Rookie Pick Trade
Gave: 1.10, 1.11, 2.7
Got: 1.6, 2.2, 2.11
Not a fan of those RBs/WRs that will be at 10 relative to what I can get at 1.6. Felt pretty cheap to move up and make sure I got one of my guys. I now have 1.5-1.8.
1.09 by a ton in SF.Team A gives: 1.09
Team B gives: Martavis Bryant and Marquise Goodwin
Future 1st by a whole bunch. Not even TE premium? Yikes.Team A gives: 2019 1st (the same one they received earlier)
Team B gives: 2.04 (otc, picked Mike Gesicki)
I know QBs are worth a little bit more in Zealots, but this seems like the 1.03 side in a blowout.Zealots PPR (same one I traded away Russell Wilson a month or so back)
I gave: Jared Goff, Isaiah Crowell, Wesley Woodyard, 2019 1st, 2019 2nd, 2019 2nd
I get: Derek Carr, 1.03, 2.03
My team is pure garbage at present, so the 2019 1st is likely to be very early (maybe even 1.01 if I'm unlucky), but I've now got:
1.03, 1.05, 1.07, 2.03, 2.05, 2.07, 2.08, and 2.10 this year to start the rebuild.
So easy.12 Team PPR: Start 3 RB, 3 WR, No flex
Gave: Barkley
Got: OBJ, D. Henry, 2019 2
I like that a lot for you.12 Team PPR: Rookie Pick Trade
Gave: 1.10, 1.11, 2.7
Got: 1.6, 2.2, 2.11
Not a fan of those RBs/WRs that will be at 10 relative to what I can get at 1.6. Felt pretty cheap to move up and make sure I got one of my guys. I now have 1.5-1.8.
I like Thomas and the 1.07 over both the players that B got.Ok since I'm sure he will post this.....
FFPC
Team A gets M. Thomas and 1.07
Team B gets M. Gordon and D. Freeman
Team A RBs are DJ and 1.01-1.03. WRs Hill, Cooks, M Bryant, M Williams, Fuller TEs: Kelce, Ertz
Team B RBs are Lynch, Crowell, Hill. WRs Landry, Tate, Woods, Golladay, Crowder TEs: Graham, Reed
Sounds like it's pretty even and helpful for both. Roughly I'd say Michael Thomas is a 1st round startup pick, Gordon and Freeman are 2nds or 3rds, and 1.07 rookie is probably in the 6th round. I would rather have Thomas and the pick but seems fair.Ok since I'm sure he will post this.....
FFPC
Team A gets M. Thomas and 1.07
Team B gets M. Gordon and D. Freeman
Team A RBs are DJ and 1.01-1.03. WRs Hill, Cooks, M Bryant, M Williams, Fuller TEs: Kelce, Ertz
Team B RBs are Lynch, Crowell, Hill. WRs Landry, Tate, Woods, Golladay, Crowder TEs: Graham, Reed
Thomas and the pick but agree with the others that it's fair.Ok since I'm sure he will post this.....
FFPC
Team A gets M. Thomas and 1.07
Team B gets M. Gordon and D. Freeman
Team A RBs are DJ and 1.01-1.03. WRs Hill, Cooks, M Bryant, M Williams, Fuller TEs: Kelce, Ertz
Team B RBs are Lynch, Crowell, Hill. WRs Landry, Tate, Woods, Golladay, Crowder TEs: Graham, Reed
SammyPPR superflex
A will give
Watkins, Sammy KCC WR
Year 2019 Round 2 Draft Pick (probably mid)
B will give
Crowell, Isaiah NYJ RB
Michel, Sony NEP RB
Backs for meOk since I'm sure he will post this.....
FFPC
Team A gets M. Thomas and 1.07
Team B gets M. Gordon and D. Freeman
Team A RBs are DJ and 1.01-1.03. WRs Hill, Cooks, M Bryant, M Williams, Fuller TEs: Kelce, Ertz
Team B RBs are Lynch, Crowell, Hill. WRs Landry, Tate, Woods, Golladay, Crowder TEs: Graham, Reed
LOL at him having to add three throw-in picks in the second trade on top of the 1.03.12 tm non-ppr Zealots league. Two trades involving 2018 rookie picks and the same two teams that I don't understand.
Team 1 gives: 2.04, 3.06
Team 2 gives: 1.11
A week later Team 2 sends out an email that he is willing to trade the 1.03 pick. First offer he gets is from Team 1 and he accepts it.
Team 1 gives: 1.11 and 1.12
Team 2 gives: 1.03, 3.03, 3.06 and their 2019 6th round pick.
IMO Team 2 loses both trades.
So in the end, combined: (1.11 and 3.06 get canceled out as they each end up with original owner)12 tm non-ppr Zealots league. Two trades involving 2018 rookie picks and the same two teams that I don't understand.
Team 1 gives: 2.04, 3.06
Team 2 gives: 1.11
A week later Team 2 sends out an email that he is willing to trade the 1.03 pick. First offer he gets is from Team 1 and he accepts it.
Team 1 gives: 1.11 and 1.12
Team 2 gives: 1.03, 3.03, 3.06 and their 2019 6th round pick.
IMO Team 2 loses both trades.
Honestly I don't think either trade or the collective is that bad this year. (The back to back trades with the same team might be questionable but perhaps not)So in the end, combined: (1.11 and 3.06 get canceled out as they each end up with original owner)
Team 1 gives 1.12 and 2.04
Team 2 gives 1.03, 3.03 and 2019 6th
big loss for Team 2
My sarcasm meter must be broken. While it seems better when you associate names, I think you’d be really lucky to get Sutton and Gallup at 1.12/2.04, but whatever. You guys have missed the big picture of this trade, team 1 now has a 2019 6th, which will be an integral part of the move up to 1.01 next year.Honestly I don't think either trade or the collective is that bad this year.
IIRC, zealots are IDP so that makes the later picks worth more than non IDP, but even in non IDP those trades together look something like Sutton, Gallup for Jones, Cain, 19 6th. Which doesn't look that bad objectively.
I'm just going off of Bloom's top 100 which has been close to my drafts so far.My sarcasm meter must be broken. While it seems better when you associate names, I think you’d be really lucky to get Sutton and Gallup at 1.12/2.04, but whatever. You guys have missed the big picture of this trade, team 1 now has a 2019 6th, which will be an integral part of the move up to 1.01 next year.
I can agree with this, and I know you’re not really justifying the trade value. Those were some bad trades.I'm just going off of Bloom's top 100 which has been close to my drafts so far.
If you don't get Sutton at 12 you're getting one of the top 8 backs, Ridley, Kirk, or Moore. At 16 add Washington, Miller, Hines and Gallup.
The draft this year is deep through 16 picks. After that IMO it trails off. But the drop from 3 to 12 or 16 is a whole lot smaller this year than in most.
I'm not calling them equal but you'll find lots worse here.I can agree with this, and I know you’re not really justifying the trade value. Those were some bad trades.
1.3A few trades from 12 team PPR TE 1.5
Team A gives D Freeman
Team B gives 1.03
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Team C gives Ajayi
Team D gives ASJ, 2.02
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Team E gives Graham
Team F gives 2019 2nd
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Team G gives Dez
Team H gives 2.04
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Note that we have gone through offseason cutdown to 16 and haven't got to our rookie/FA draft yet so each team that has gained a player must also drop one. The new Graham owner had to drop Ekeler, who I like more than a 2019 2nd......
1.2, 2.212 tm ppr, 20 man rosters, hate to let Golladay go but need an rb and like Guice by a lot over what would b there at 1.5
Gave 1.5, 2.5, Golladay
Get 1.2, 2.2
Oh totally. I guess what I should have said is I'd rather hold him. I still like him and want to see what happens. To be fair, the owner that dropped him didn't have any great choices. There were a couple I'd have chosen 1st. But I'd move a 2019 2nd for Graham in a heartbeat.1.3
Ajayi
Graham
2.4
I can’t sell Ekeler for a future 3...
No need to justify, as you got a free 2.2 if not more.12 tm ppr, 20 man rosters, hate to let Golladay go but need an rb and like Guice by a lot over what would b there at 1.5
Gave 1.5, 2.5, Golladay
Get 1.2, 2.2
Lol. You might not be that far off. Team 1 is addicted to trading. During the 2017 rookie draft he was trying to move 2018 picks to get current picks and he also traded them throughout the season. Then as our 2018 rookie draft approaches, he bombards the league with trade offers trying to acquire current rookie picks. In some cases he ends up reacquiring the rookie picks he had traded away. He does the same routine every season.My sarcasm meter must be broken. While it seems better when you associate names, I think you’d be really lucky to get Sutton and Gallup at 1.12/2.04, but whatever. You guys have missed the big picture of this trade, team 1 now has a 2019 6th, which will be an integral part of the move up to 1.01 next year.
This guy posting he wants to trade is like throwing chum in the water.Lol. You might not be that far off. Team 1 is addicted to trading. During the 2017 rookie draft he was trying to move 2018 picks to get current picks and he also traded them throughout the season. Then as our 2018 rookie draft approaches, he bombards the league with trade offers trying to acquire current rookie picks. In some cases he ends up reacquiring the rookie picks he had traded away. He does the same routine every season.
It was just shocking that Team 2 emailed he was willing to move 1.03 and 90 minutes later, he had a deal done with Team 1. Nobody else even had a chance to make an offer for the pick.
I have the 1.02 and I find this trade very disappointing.12 tm ppr, 20 man rosters, hate to let Golladay go but need an rb and like Guice by a lot over what would b there at 1.5
Gave 1.5, 2.5, Golladay
Get 1.2, 2.2
Agreed. I bought the 1.02 and 1.03 in our start up auction before he nfl draft, literally could not trade down from them afterwards. Nobody has any desire to give up value, they’d rather just get who falls to them out of the 2nd tier playersI have the 1.02 and I find this trade very disappointing.
People want the sun and the moon for 1.01 but 1.02 is given up for next to nothing.
I’m sure I’ll be in the minority here but I’ll go 1.07 (Penny) and McKinnonJust went down:
1.07 (on the clock with Penny, Ridley, Freeman available) and McKinnon
for
Kamara
I want to trade down but I can't blame anyone in my league for not wanting to trade up. My plan B is to take Guice (even though I ain't high on him) and see if I can trade him later in the season. Please start the season strong Guice.Agreed. I bought the 1.02 and 1.03 in our start up auction before he nfl draft, literally could not trade down from them afterwards. Nobody has any desire to give up value, they’d rather just get who falls to them out of the 2nd tier players
Kamara easilyJust went down:
1.07 (on the clock with Penny, Ridley, Freeman available) and McKinnon
for
Kamara
My goodness KamaraJust went down:
1.07 (on the clock with Penny, Ridley, Freeman available) and McKinnon
for
Kamara
Terrible return value on Kamara. Not that it can't work out, but that is selling very lightJust went down:
1.07 (on the clock with Penny, Ridley, Freeman available) and McKinnon
for
Kamara
Just went down:
1.07 (on the clock with Penny, Ridley, Freeman available) and McKinnon
for
Kamara
1.7 and McKinnon gets Kamara in one league....and 1.7 alone only gets Shepard. Dynasty is hard for some people.12 team superflex (i'm not involved)
Team A gave: Sterling Shepard
Team B gave: 1.7 2018 rookie pick