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11 hours ago, Boston said:

 

Very interesting deal...a lot depends on what you you are looking to do both short and long term...I like the Diggs side better because it is a lot safer...Brown is 5 years younger which is a big plus, but Diggs looks like he still has at least 3 year more good years left and his QB is far better than Brown will probably have for a while...I would like to see a bigger gap in that pick...either it be a higher #1 or that #2 being a #3...if you are totally sold on Brown I can understand doing this but overall I don't think that is a ton to give up for a stud like Diggs.


I see this deal precisely this same way.  Well articulated.  🤝

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I didn’t watch any of the Lions, is the sun god really that promising or a benefactor of a depleted offense with not much else to turn to?  I know Diggs has a little bit of a ding to value with his age, but I’d be hard pressed to take such a deal for him; would much rather have a RB than Ra on top of random late 1st in ‘22

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1 hour ago, That one guy said:

I didn’t watch any of the Lions, is the sun god really that promising or a benefactor of a depleted offense with not much else to turn to?  I know Diggs has a little bit of a ding to value with his age, but I’d be hard pressed to take such a deal for him; would much rather have a RB than Ra on top of random late 1st in ‘22

St. Brown is a good football player who is versatile and will continue to play a big role. With that being said it probably is not a bad time to sell high. The lack of outside weapons (which should change after the off-season) and Hockenson’s injury definitely played a role in him being targeted as much as he was. This doesn’t take away from his incredible start to his career but I would expect the Lions to become a little more balanced going forward.

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57 minutes ago, King of the Jungle said:

St. Brown is a good football player who is versatile and will continue to play a big role. With that being said it probably is not a bad time to sell high. The lack of outside weapons (which should change after the off-season) and Hockenson’s injury definitely played a role in him being targeted as much as he was. This doesn’t take away from his incredible start to his career but I would expect the Lions to become a little more balanced going forward.

What is "sell high" for him?

What is his dynasty value anyway?

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32 minutes ago, ghostguy123 said:

What is "sell high" for him?

What is his dynasty value anyway?

That is in the eye of the beholder. I just think if you were looking to get into the next tier it may be a good time to start sniffing. Rankings vary greatly from person to person in dynasty but the way he finished the year I am not sure his value will ever be higher.

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41 minutes ago, ghostguy123 said:

What is "sell high" for him?

What is his dynasty value anyway?

I could see a high-2022 2nd easily. Maybe even a mid-2023 1st. 

I’m not sure what I’d be willing to pay, personally - something in that range. His 5-game run down the stretch was undeniably awesome, and quite a bit of that was a combination of talent & volume. He continued to perform even after Swift returned, which many of the writers hedged agains in their commentary. Yet he just keeps sponging up short & intermediate targets, and his RuTd tells me he’s got great vision & patience. 

I don’t see getting burned by dealing for him - he’s an intriguing weapon for an offense in need of them. 

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1 hour ago, King of the Jungle said:

St. Brown is a good football player who is versatile and will continue to play a big role. With that being said it probably is not a bad time to sell high. The lack of outside weapons (which should change after the off-season) and Hockenson’s injury definitely played a role in him being targeted as much as he was. This doesn’t take away from his incredible start to his career but I would expect the Lions to become a little more balanced going forward.

The flip side of this is that despite being practically their only outside receiving weapon, he still produced at an incredible level. Add Hock & a healthy WR corps, and theoretically his coverage should soften up a little. Should balance out the potential drop in targets. 

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1 hour ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

I could see a high-2022 2nd easily. Maybe even a mid-2023 1st. 

I’m not sure what I’d be willing to pay, personally - something in that range. His 5-game run down the stretch was undeniably awesome, and quite a bit of that was a combination of talent & volume. He continued to perform even after Swift returned, which many of the writers hedged agains in their commentary. Yet he just keeps sponging up short & intermediate targets, and his RuTd tells me he’s got great vision & patience. 

I don’t see getting burned by dealing for him - he’s an intriguing weapon for an offense in need of them. 

Hi 2nd isnt exactly selling high. 

Mid looking future 1st is probably closer to his value.

Who knows.  I will likely never own him

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On 1/15/2022 at 9:17 AM, That one guy said:

I didn’t watch any of the Lions, is the sun god really that promising or a benefactor of a depleted offense with not much else to turn to? 

I believe both of these things to be true.

 

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2 hours ago, menobrown said:

FFPC:

Gave: Claypool, Pollard

Got: Devonta Smith


Huh. I like the Claypool side because I like Claypool. You maybe could have given less of a piece in addition if you were searching for Smith. But it's FFPC so you're probably clearing out roster space. 

I don't know. This seems okay if you like Smith a bunch. 

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2 hours ago, rockaction said:


Huh. I like the Claypool side because I like Claypool. You maybe could have given less of a piece in addition if you were searching for Smith. But it's FFPC so you're probably clearing out roster space. 

I don't know. This seems okay if you like Smith a bunch. 

 

Thanks, I'm soured a little on Claypool. He's a great athlete who does not look like he is learning how to play the position. For sure he could start getting to together and he has some Metcalf type upside but two years I'm just not seeing him evolve.

But for me this is more about getting Devonta Smith then being down on Claypool or roster space.

Both WR's have QB issues but Steelers have never had a losing record under Tomlin  and that's going to make it hard to get in position to draft a highly coveted QB. To me the odds of Steelers struggling at QB for at least the duration of Claypool's contract the next two years is very high. Meanwhile the Eagles less then 2 years ago said they wanted to be a QB factory and I know their analytical department is big on passing game, maybe not Siraini, but he's not the one holding the power. A team with this mindset and 3 #1 picks is not a team I see just saying "lets roll with Hurts" another year. I will be extremely surprised if they don't use some or all of these picks to try and upgrade QB and I guess I'm betting on it, betting Eagles figure out their QB situation before the Steeler's do.

 

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1 minute ago, menobrown said:

I will be extremely surprised if they don't use some or all of these picks to try and upgrade QB and I guess I'm betting on it,


I was going to say something about that, but didn’t know if you were looking that far ahead. That’s interesting. Good luck.

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5 hours ago, menobrown said:

FFPC:

Gave: Claypool, Pollard

Got: Devonta Smith

 

Fair, but I’m not in love with either side of this deal. 

Pollard has a legit shot at a feature back role if/when EE misses time. And he’s a significant talent. 

Claypool - huh. A lot depends on who’s QB in PIT next year & for the foreseeable future. He has talent.

Smith could be anywhere on the spectrum from Claypool to something better. I’m not entirely sold on the Eagles offense or Hurts (I’ve never been a big Hurts guy as far as a passer). Smith was 64/916/5 this year, and that could well be what he is with Hurts under center. 

I guess not being positive of what’s going to happen with PIT or PHI, I’d want  the Claypool/Pollard side. More pieces to potentially deal later.

I don’t think it’s a terrible deal for either side, though. 

FWIW, my trade calc has either Claypool or Pollard as ~70-80% of Smith’s value in a 1:1, but both together come out to 187-134, so at least this trade calc sees this as a pretty heavy overpay for Smith on paper. It is seen as a moderate upgrade at WR though, which is likely accurate depending on what PIT does at QB next season. 

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14 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

 

FWIW, my trade calc has either Claypool or Pollard as ~70-80% of Smith’s value in a 1:1, but both together come out to 187-134, so at least this trade calc sees this as a pretty heavy overpay for Smith on paper.

To each their own but I actually used Hindery's trade value chart to craft the offer and per his chart, which IMO is the best one going, I actually won 26-25 in value for Smith vs Pollard/Claypool.

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13 minutes ago, menobrown said:

To each their own but I actually used Hindery's trade value chart to craft the offer and per his chart, which IMO is the best one going, I actually won 26-25 in value for Smith vs Pollard/Claypool.

At the end of the day what really matters is that you're happy with the deal. 

And the friends you made along the way. 

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36 minutes ago, IHEARTFF said:

I like Hindery's chart but no way am I trading Elijah Mitchell for Zeke


No, I wouldn't, either. I think Zeke still has another year in him as far as a TD-dependent back goes, but most people aren't dealing Mitchell for him. I personally roster Zeke in one league and can't get anything for him, really. Lopsided trade, maybe. I wouldn't trade Damien Harris for Zeke and Zeke is ten points higher on Hindery's chart. 

Hindery's chart doesn't really take market value into consideration, it seems. Because KeepTradeCut has Zeke at about RB24, while Elijah Mitchell is RB16. 

So it's a little slow -- Hindery's chart -- in the lag time between market value that day and market value Jan. 5th. 

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16 minutes ago, rockaction said:


No, I wouldn't, either. I think Zeke still has another year in him as far as a TD-dependent back goes, but most people aren't dealing Mitchell for him. I personally roster Zeke in one league and can't get anything for him, really. Lopsided trade, maybe. I wouldn't trade Damien Harris for Zeke and Zeke is ten points higher on Hindery's chart. 

Hindery's chart doesn't really take market value into consideration, it seems. Because KeepTradeCut has Zeke at about RB24, while Elijah Mitchell is RB16. 

So it's a little slow -- Hindery's chart -- in the lag time between market value that day and market value Jan. 5th. 

He defines his values as specifically FPs over replacement aggregated over the remaining expected career arc of player x, y z.

Market values aren't a part of the calculation. Yet it can be incredibly useful as a proxy for such. I try to pull from many sources and use as milemarkers for an estimate of market consensus. Some are specifically pulled from crowdsourced data and others like Hindery, are not. He does update his list the first of every month so the timelag is pretty predictable.

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Also, no calculator that I am aware of can tell you how narrow or wide the market is for a given player. Let's pretend we all agreed on what the value should be for Zeke. Nobody wants to buy him. There is no market. 

"What if the price were right, though?"

It won't be. People will hold before selling Zeke for pennies. And at what may be consensus value, nobody is buying. So the number in a calc is useful but limited.

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2 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

He defines his values as specifically FPs over replacement aggregated over the remaining expected career arc of player x, y z.


Interesting. I wonder how he calculates the expected career arc of a player and would like to know the inputs to Fps over replacement. I know Adam Harstad does new work calculating expected career longevity. This is from 2015, but he continues his work until today. You should follow him on Twitter and check out his blog. He writes for FBG, just in case you were unaware. (You're likely not.)

https://www.footballguys.com/article/HarstadMortalityTables

But that's where the math would lose me, frankly. 

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6 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

Also, no calculator that I am aware of can tell you how narrow or wide the market is for a given player. Let's pretend we all agreed on what the value should be for Zeke. Nobody wants to buy him. There is no market. 

"What if the price were right, though?"

It won't be. People will hold before selling Zeke for pennies. And at what may be consensus value, nobody is buying. So the number in a calc is useful but limited.


I agree totally. This is exactly what I'm experiencing with the specific player. I'd rather hold than sell for pennies and nobody wants him at reasonable or current consensus value. I don't think I said anything different and would admit that calcs are limited in that way. So isn't Hindery's chart, which functions as a calc, really. It assigns a value to a guy.

Anyway, by introducing market value, I was merely talking about calcs that specifically are measuring market value, like KeepTradeCut. But the value they give still is susceptible to your point about what the actual market is. 

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1 minute ago, rockaction said:


I agree totally. This is exactly what I'm experiencing with the specific player. I'd rather hold than sell for pennies and nobody wants him at reasonable or current consensus value. I don't think I said anything different and would admit that calcs are limited in that way. So isn't Hindery's chart, which functions as a calc, really. It assigns a value to a guy.

Anyway, by introducing market value, I was merely talking about calcs that specifically are measuring market value, like KeepTradeCut. But the value they give still is susceptible to your point about what the actual market is. 

Hindery is interesting because it is based purely on production forecasting. I like that about it. I absolutely disagree with many of his calls but I like the approach. 

I should have taken the Claypool for Zeke off I got in August. 

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36 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

I should have taken the Claypool for Zeke off I got in August


I tried for that. No response. I'd have taken Claypool and Samuel for Zeke back around Sept./Oct. when Zeke was going well. 

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On 1/14/2022 at 12:50 AM, Shrugs said:

Here's a look back at how I handled my first ever rebuild this year. I've played 13 other seasons of dynasty in various leagues over the years and made the playoffs in all of them. I took over this orphan team days before the season started and, by Week 3, decided to make it my first rebuild.

Team I took over:

QB: Burrow, Lance, Wentz, Carr, Mills
RB: Javonte Williams, Singletary, Michael Carter, R. Stevenson
WR: Godwin, Aiyuk, Diontae, Jeudy, Waddle, MWill, Toney, Mooney, Cephus
TE: Gesicki, Irv Smith/Herndon, Jarwin, Freiermuth
Picks: Team-earned R1-4 2022-24

This is a 12-team SF PPR 1.5 TE team where you start QB 2xRB 2xWR TE 2xFL SF. I've got to give the previous owner credit for his draft. He should have stuck with the team! Surprisingly, I made fewer trades than usual. Part of that was due to the league, but I did offer fewer trades. Still, I added five 1st rounders in the five trades. Here they are, in order:

1. Wentz and 22 2nd (2.03) for Renfrow and 22 1st (1.06)

2. Burrow and 23 2nd for Fields, Gainwell and 23 1st

3. Godwin, Diontae, MWill, Stevenson for Chase, Claypool, G. Davis, Parham, Campbell, 22 2nd (2.09)

4. Carr, Gesicki, Renfrow, Michael Carter, 22 2nd (2.09) , 23 3rd for Goedert, Mac Jones, 22 1st (1.08), 23 1st

5. Goedert, D'Ernest for 22 1st of 3-6 team (1.11)

Analysis: No. 4 seems like a HR to me, No. 3 maybe a double, No. 1 a single, No. 5 probably ended up being a negative because I got unlucky with him making the playoffs and final. If I had just lost to his competitor for the last playoff spot in W13, his 1.11 would be 1.04. Giving up Burrow could haunt me. This was when Fields had just become starter, before he looked bad, and in a league with 4 pt passing TD and 1 pt/25 passing yards, I decided to build around two running QBs in Fields and Lance.

Team at end of season:

QB: Lance, Fields/Dalton, Mac Jones, Mills, Minshew

RB: JaVonte, Singletary, Gainwell, Foreman, D'Ernest

WR: Chase, Waddle, Aiyuk, Mooney, Jeudy, Claypool, Toney, G. Davis, Campbell, Cephus, Smith-Marsette

TE: Muth, Irv Smith, Parham

Picks: 22 1.03, 1.06, 1.08, 1.11, 23 three 1sts

 

Overall, I'm happy to get the added picks to put my mark on this team, and happy to have Chase, Waddle and JaVonte to build around. Plus a ton of depth at WR that gives me options. I'll look to add some RBs with my 1st rounders this year, by pick or trade. The competitiveness of my team going forward basically depends on Lance and Fields stepping up. 

I struggle in Dynasty knowing when to go into full blown rebuild mode.  Not faulting your decision making here AT ALL, because at this level it's all just guesswork, but from my perspective, you've moved your possible win zone out by 3+ years.  I say that because you've gone from fairly polished QB, WR, TE and YOUNG RBs to more raw (and possibly talented) at QB, WR and TE at the same time hurting your RB room.  The rookies and youngsters you traded (Burrow, Godwin, Dionte, Gesicki, Carter, Stevenson) seemed like the makings of a solid core.  What was the rationale for making this set of moves?  I do like what you've done with the WR corps, but I wonder if you could have bolstered that roster without a complete rebuild?  Help me learn here, as I'm still trying to figure out when to cut bait on my own team and go full rebuild.

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13 hours ago, rockaction said:

Hindery's chart doesn't really take market value into consideration, it seems. Because KeepTradeCut has Zeke at about RB24, while Elijah Mitchell is RB16. 

So it's a little slow -- Hindery's chart -- in the lag time between market value that day and market value Jan. 5th. 


KTC also has incredibly high recency bias. I've seen, as you probably have as well, players have wild value swings week to week. Hindery is probably more conservative because his name is on the line as compared to anonymous users shooting from the hip with nothing at stake on KTC.

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10 minutes ago, floods said:


KTC also has incredibly high recency bias. I've seen, as you probably have as well, players have wild value swings week to week. Hindery is probably more conservative because his name is on the line as compared to anonymous users shooting from the hip with nothing at stake on KTC.

Yes there definitely some overreactions to recent games on there, but that's okay. Good to know your source material's strengths and weaknesses.

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18 minutes ago, floods said:


KTC also has incredibly high recency bias. I've seen, as you probably have as well, players have wild value swings week to week. Hindery is probably more conservative because his name is on the line as compared to anonymous users shooting from the hip with nothing at stake on KTC.

I think KTC uses crowd sourcing which would explain the recency bias.

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Regarding trade value charts we can find faults with all of them.  I'd tell anyone if you sent me over the trade value chart you think is perfect and tell me you'll accept any trade offer I propose that has you winning the trade I guarantee you'll have a winning trade offer coming your way shortly.

They are just a guide and I personally don't care about winning them, I just try and use them to help craft strong or non-insulting initial offers.

It would be accurate for me to say I put absolutely zero stock in using them as a basis for accepting a trade.

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13 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

Also, no calculator that I am aware of can tell you how narrow or wide the market is for a given player. Let's pretend we all agreed on what the value should be for Zeke. Nobody wants to buy him. There is no market. 

"What if the price were right, though?"

It won't be. People will hold before selling Zeke for pennies. And at what may be consensus value, nobody is buying. So the number in a calc is useful but limited.

Completely agree with this.

I’ve had league-mates come at me with lowball offers on talented by aging players (the kind that trade calcs often devalue) and chastising me when I’m “being unreasonable” for wanting more for them. 

Ok pal, you want my player to help you win a ‘ship *this year* but you don’t want to pay me anything because his value after this year is low? Riiiiiiight. 

To me this is the flaw with trade calculators.

That said, I thought Dynasty Dominator had the values pretty spot on when I ran the Smith for Pollard/Claypool deal through it. Neither worth smith straight up (fairly close though) but both = a modest overpay. 

At least it jibed with what I saw as the values & cost of the upgrade to Smith. 

but I don’t think any of these tools are intended to be a silo. Take from each what you can, use multiple tools, check multiple valuations, and use your own gut.

More than a few times I’ve followed trade calcs & value charts to try to acquire a player using what I thought was an overpay, only to learn that the owner valued them much more. And almost every time it saved me from making a terrible mistake. Juju, & Zeke are both examples. I thought each would have a bounce back, be worth more than what I was offering (and I offered quite a bit for Zeke) - both those owners are now going down with those ships.  The players are still somewhat valuable, but IMO they will never fetch close to what I was offering a couple years ago. 

Value is always in the eye of the beholder, so I try to find every opinion I can (including posting proposals here at FBG for feedback) to see what the consensus is. And even then sometimes I just go with my gut when it comes time to pull the trigger. 

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17 minutes ago, menobrown said:

 

and I personally don't care about winning them, I just try and use them to help craft strong or non-insulting initial offers

these are 2 excellent points.

1. Some of the best trades i’ve made are ones I “lost” on the calcs. And since my trade partners often use the same calcs, & one in particular is obsessed with never “losing” a deal, I use that to my advantage to send proposals that he wins. It’s a really helpful strategy.  Perception becomes reality, so finding the spot where I disagree with the perception of “losing” to get the player I want gets it done.

2. I never want to kill a deal with an opening salvo. I never want to lowball someone. 

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5 minutes ago, robb said:

Just received Freiermuth for a 2022 3rd and a 2023 3rd (value = 2022 4th I believe). Good value? My best TEs are Arnold and Jordan, so big upgrade.

At that cost it’s a great deal. And I have to believe whatever QB PIT rolls out next year will be leaning on the TE. 

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17 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

these are 2 excellent points.

1. Some of the best trades i’ve made are ones I “lost” on the calcs. And since my trade partners often use the same calcs, & one in particular is obsessed with never “losing” a deal, I use that to my advantage to send proposals that he wins. It’s a really helpful strategy.  Perception becomes reality, so finding the spot where I disagree with the perception of “losing” to get the player I want gets it done.

2. I never want to kill a deal with an opening salvo. I never want to lowball someone. 

A wise approach.  I find the calc’s highly useful for precisely this kind of deal building.

I’ve let it be known across my leagues in words and action that I love trading and trade discussions, even if they don’t ultimately end in a deal.  I’m building trust and trying to improve my team using other people’s assets, so it seems to me the least I can do is get to know what they want and need or where they value certain players.  This helps also make my leagues more fun for me.

Not to say I’m always successful in this approach as I’ve made a few diaper offers over time but sometimes you gotta adjust…😊

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3 hours ago, InDitkaWeTrust said:

I struggle in Dynasty knowing when to go into full blown rebuild mode.  Not faulting your decision making here AT ALL, because at this level it's all just guesswork, but from my perspective, you've moved your possible win zone out by 3+ years.  I say that because you've gone from fairly polished QB, WR, TE and YOUNG RBs to more raw (and possibly talented) at QB, WR and TE at the same time hurting your RB room.  The rookies and youngsters you traded (Burrow, Godwin, Dionte, Gesicki, Carter, Stevenson) seemed like the makings of a solid core.  What was the rationale for making this set of moves?  I do like what you've done with the WR corps, but I wonder if you could have bolstered that roster without a complete rebuild?  Help me learn here, as I'm still trying to figure out when to cut bait on my own team and go full rebuild.

I don't know, as it was my first full-blown rebuild. I took over two orphan dynasty teams right before the season began paying only the entry fee for 22 to join the leagues. Not paying for the 21 season made me more willing to do a rebuild. And then I decided to try to win now in one league (I did, turning previously winless team into champion) and rebuild in this league. Also, I thought in this league there are a few dominant teams, so I could get this team into the playoffs but it's going to need a rebuild to truly be competitive. Once I decided to go for a rebuild, I looked to gather picks and/or players I wanted to rebuild around. And I made the decision to rebuild around two running QBs given the league's passing settings. So I got Chase, Fields, Mac Jones, Claypool and five extra 1st rounders over the next two seasons. I think I have a lot of assets now to accelerate my rebuild.

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3 hours ago, Shrugs said:

I don't know, as it was my first full-blown rebuild. I took over two orphan dynasty teams right before the season began paying only the entry fee for 22 to join the leagues. Not paying for the 21 season made me more willing to do a rebuild. And then I decided to try to win now in one league (I did, turning previously winless team into champion) and rebuild in this league. Also, I thought in this league there are a few dominant teams, so I could get this team into the playoffs but it's going to need a rebuild to truly be competitive. Once I decided to go for a rebuild, I looked to gather picks and/or players I wanted to rebuild around. And I made the decision to rebuild around two running QBs given the league's passing settings. So I got Chase, Fields, Mac Jones, Claypool and five extra 1st rounders over the next two seasons. I think I have a lot of assets now to accelerate my rebuild.

I think this is a good approach. And it always sucks to lose young assets - take it from me, I dealt Mahomes to kick off my full rebuild in my SF Dynasty. 

Many said the same: how could you deal the best young QB in football as part of a rebuild? That's who you build around! (paraphrasing / combining the most common responses) 

I get it - I wish I could have kept him. I'd made the playoffs 3 straight years, finishing 3rd ($), 3rd ($) and 4th ($0). The teams that beat me were all stacked and the margin of defeat averaged 30+ points.

My stable of 27-30 y/o WR & RB wasn't going to give me a very long window, and I felt I was going to lose in the playoffs every year until my old dudes washed out. 

So I blew it up & got as many 2023 draft picks as possible. Incidentally the players I dealt almost all got hurt / had sub-par seasons except Mike Evans. ARob, Carson, Samuels, Chase Edmonds, Hopkins, etc, etc. So had I not done this my team would have completed disintegrated. 

Now I have a core of youth (Tee Higgins, Zach Wilson, Gabe Davis, Michael Pittman, Kyle Pitts), a few ok/upside  prospects (Pringle, RoJo, KJ Osborn, Daniel Jones, D. Carr Rountree,),a couple guys I might still be able to deal in 2022 (Ced Wilson, Cole, Bourne, Fuller, Evan Engram) a top 6 pick in 2022, and a whole mess of draft picks in 2023:

5x 1sts

3x 2nds

3x 3rds

1x 4th

5x 5ths

So 2023 I have 17 picks, 5 of them in the top 12 (with potentially the 1.01 since I don't plan on winning much in 2022), and 6 of the top 13-14. One of the other 2nds could be top 4 as well. 

Hopefully I make good picks & get lucky with their results. If so I should be set up for success for a few years at least. But I'd rather have this than have Mahomes & an empty cupboard. :shrug: 

And who knows what 2022 or 2023 will bring. Maybe someone will get hot for one of my picks & deal me a nice piece or two. Anything's possible at this point. But I do feel far more optimistic about my future chances than I did with Mahomes. 

So yeah - it was probably difficult to deal Burrow. He's a dude I'd love to have in dynasty. But you need more than a couple studs to win, so I completely get it. 

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1 hour ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

So I blew it up & got as many 2023 draft picks as possible. Incidentally the players I dealt almost all got hurt / had sub-par seasons except Mike Evans. ARob, Carson, Samuels, Chase Edmonds, Hopkins, etc, etc. So had I not done this my team would have completed disintegrated. 

Dude, I did the exact same thing this year. I was a middling team and was not going to be able to compete with the 2-3 juggernauts at the top. I had just went 0-2 for the week and dropped to 7th place and decided to blow it all the way up. I don’t regret it at all. I now have 5 2023 1sts and 5 in 2024. I moved Henry for multiple 1sts literally a week before his injury. I also moved Wilson, Aaron Jones, Tannehill, Kittle and Kyler, all who pretty much underperformed for the remainder of the season. I would be kicking myself so hard if I hadn’t done what I did because I’d be sitting on these declining assets and maybe would’ve not even made the playoffs. 

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