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2018 Elections Thread (4 Viewers)
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rustycolts
Footballguy
No,contrary to popular opinion Florida has more than a bunch of bo hick rednecks living here.
Osaurus
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toshiba
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Bruce Dickinson
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It’s not intended to be a statement about Florida. It’s a statement about where the GOP base is right now, where openly white nationalist candidates are running for office under the GOP banner.
The reaction to the scandal is also intended to be a reflection of how the 2016 election went, where a private email server was equated with, well, a lot of other stuff.
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Wait, now I'm confused. It sounded like you initially objected to what @Bruce Dickinson said because he was implying that FL voters were racist. But this post seems to be agreeing with his sentiment. (Count me as another person who has no idea what "bo hick" means? Bohemian?)
ren hoek
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David Sirota @davidsirota
BREAKING: NY Gov. Cuomo suspended Weinstein sexual assault investigation just as he raked in $25,000 from Weinstein’s longtime law firm
BREAKING: NY Gov. Cuomo suspended Weinstein sexual assault investigation just as he raked in $25,000 from Weinstein’s longtime law firm
toshiba
Footballguy
rustycolts
Footballguy
It was a term my parents used they were from NC. Hick form Bodunk so bo hick. Guess you had to be there.
ren hoek
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Sirota's good. Really good. In the interest of fairness, there was also this:
https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1034858050505437185
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toshiba
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Thank you, I’ll check this out later.
Im definitely not 100% committed to Cuomo on my dem primary vote.
toshiba
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-fish-
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The investigation was postponed for six months to not interfere with the criminal prosecution.
Suspending the investigation hurts Weinstein; it doesn't help him.
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toshiba
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Is he? I only know him as a political commentator, and I've never liked him very much (despite being ideologically aligned). But I have no idea how good he is as a reporter.
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Off topic, but how Boies is still accepted in polite society is beyond me. The lesson of all of the sexual-abuse scandals in recent years is that they depended upon both evil people as well as enablers of evil. That's why the careers of people like Paterno, the president of Michigan State, and (if there's any justice in this world) Jim Jordan have been ruined. Boies was arguably worse than any of those. His work on behalf of Weinstein went way beyond his ethical obligation to represent his client.
ren hoek
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https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/harvey-weinsteins-army-of-spies
Huh. Didn't realize it was Boies who hired the ex-Mossad agents to defend his rapist client. Oh well, I'm definitely taking that guy at his word, false narratives btfo.
The Indestructible
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American Ledger @Am_Ledger
BREAKING: DeSantis moderates hate-filled Facebook group that attacks African-Americans, Parkland survivors and Muslims #flgov #flpol #sayfie
BREAKING: DeSantis moderates hate-filled Facebook group that attacks African-Americans, Parkland survivors and Muslims #flgov #flpol #sayfie
squistion
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Six Republican members of the Oklahoma House who opposed hiking taxes to improve teacher salaries lost their jobs in primary runoffs this week, adding momentum to a pro-education movement that previously ousted two other GOP legislators.
https://apnews.com/7e80f52c9b44486fa282ee8f36e75193
https://apnews.com/7e80f52c9b44486fa282ee8f36e75193
toshiba
Footballguy
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Even in Oklahoma they understand that it's so much better having teachers raise your kids.
Officer Pete Malloy
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ren hoek
Footballguy
https://twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/1034947158217252864
Very uh, fascinating back and forth between Nixon and Cuomo
Very uh, fascinating back and forth between Nixon and Cuomo
Henry Ford
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Well, it's not like he's running for the Senate. The House is basically a collection of people the U.S could afford to lose if we started experimenting with interstellar travel by firing people wearing armor into space from a giant cannon.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I'm not really up on New York politics because I'm not a New Yorker, but my sense is that Cuomo should join the House of Representatives and let Nixon be governor.
toshiba
Footballguy
Don't know the details, but I'm guessing she incorporated for tax purposes.
Bit of a stretch to go from there to "You made corporate donations and called in favors."
ren hoek
Footballguy
In late June, New York governor Andrew Cuomo quietly ordered the suspension of an ongoing investigation into whether the Manhattan District Attorney’s office had mishandled sexual-assault allegations made against Harvey Weinstein in March of 2015. As it turns out, this decision came just a few days after Weinstein’s former lawyer’s firm donated $25,000 to Cuomo’s reelection campaign, according to an illuminating new report.
According to the report, which was published on Capital & Main, Cuomo’s campaign received a $25,000 donation from Weinstein’s former laywer David Boies’s firm on June 20. On June 26, Cuomo ordered the investigation into the DA’s handling of the Weinstein case to be halted for six months — an investigation, notably, that stemmed from the fact that Boies had donated $10,000 to District Attorney Cy Vance before Vance’s office dropped the Weinstein case. (Per a letter obtained by “Page Six,” Cuomo’s justification for halting the probe was that it could potentially obstruct the criminal case against Weinstein.)
https://twitter.com/CynthiaNixon/status/1035541029313818624
False narrative really picking up steam
According to the report, which was published on Capital & Main, Cuomo’s campaign received a $25,000 donation from Weinstein’s former laywer David Boies’s firm on June 20. On June 26, Cuomo ordered the investigation into the DA’s handling of the Weinstein case to be halted for six months — an investigation, notably, that stemmed from the fact that Boies had donated $10,000 to District Attorney Cy Vance before Vance’s office dropped the Weinstein case. (Per a letter obtained by “Page Six,” Cuomo’s justification for halting the probe was that it could potentially obstruct the criminal case against Weinstein.)
https://twitter.com/CynthiaNixon/status/1035541029313818624
False narrative really picking up steam
ren hoek
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@michaelwhitney
the chaos of a Trump re-election presents an opportunity for transformative, radical change for our country, and there are going to be TONS of people who just want to get back to "normal," useless system.
it's going to be an absolutely infuriating presidential campaign.
a good sign of someone who will stab you in the back to appease goldman sachs is anyone who says "what we need is a return to normalcy"
the chaos of a Trump re-election presents an opportunity for transformative, radical change for our country, and there are going to be TONS of people who just want to get back to "normal," useless system.
it's going to be an absolutely infuriating presidential campaign.
a good sign of someone who will stab you in the back to appease goldman sachs is anyone who says "what we need is a return to normalcy"
I'd never heard of Whitney, and my first reading of that tweet was that he was a Trump supporter arguing that Trump's opponents were the ones trying to "appease Goldman Sachs". But then I found his Twitter feed and realized he's a leftist arguing that we can't just go back to normal after Trump, we need to take the opportunity to fix a system that was already broken. Which I suppose is something we can argue over but IMO is largely irrelevant. Whether people want it or not, things will never go back to "normal" post-Trump. I shake my head whenever I hear liberals talking about the Trump Era as some sort of bad dream that we will eventually wake up from. Trump may be gone in 2021 or 2025 or maybe even 2019. But Trumpism is going to be with us much longer than that. That is the new normal.
timschochet
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I disagree. I want to return to normal. Trumpism is like McCarthyism; a temporary bad time.
I am exactly the sort of pro Wall Street, pro Goldman Sachs guy that Ren Hoek wants to defeat. But he won’t.
I am exactly the sort of pro Wall Street, pro Goldman Sachs guy that Ren Hoek wants to defeat. But he won’t.
ren hoek
Footballguy
It seems to me that the political establishment sort of created this monster. There wouldn't be much room for an antiestablishment "populist" to resonate with people if status quo politics hadn't failed the working class.
There's a choice for the left to make here. Campaigning on a return to 'normalcy,' which is really the 'adults in the room' argument, which is really just a return to a garbage system nobody wants that gave us Trump in the first place, but more polite.
Or campaigning on a tough, adversarial platform that accepts accountability for how the system has failed the working class and offers meaningful changes to peoples' lives. If the Democrats were that desperate to save us from the Trump/GOP agenda, they would embrace these ideas full-heartedly and leave no stone unturned trying to win over nonvoters. It will never happen of course, but it would if their convictions matched their rhetoric.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
He's a writer at The Intercept. So maybe one of those "objectively pro-Trump" deals? And yeah, I definitely got a "heighten the contradictions" vibe off his tweet.
-fish-
Footballguy
This was what Bernie Sanders represented and many of his ideas were woven into the Democrats' platform. Universal health care, raising the minimum wage and student loan relief would all benefit the working class.
SaintsInDome2006
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ren hoek
Footballguy
The author of that tweet was a Bernie fundraiser. But I think he has a point. So much of the political paradigm is painted as a right vs. left thing, but it really isn't. It's establishment vs. populism, us vs. them, authoritarian vs. libertarian, etc. The 50-someodd percent of the country that didn't participate in the last election isn't going to jump out of bed to vote for a Biden or just merely free us from Trump if the Dems are offering nothing of substance.
Sheriff Bart
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