Sheriff Bart
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How dare you use his words and actions to extrapolate meaning!!The president encourages people like the El Paso shooter. That is clear.
How dare you use his words and actions to extrapolate meaning!!The president encourages people like the El Paso shooter. That is clear.
I guess we need SC in here for this too - he insinuated that he can tell who is likely to be a mass shooter by looking at them. I guess we need more SCs as security?There is some amazingly stupid stuff going on right now. Right now in Texas you can legally walk into a wal-mart or a mall with an assault rifle (and gun folks please do me a favor don't beat me up over the term, I just mean whatever gun it is that looks and acts like an actual assault rifle).
Thing is how are security or cops supposed to tell if someone is meaning to do harm when they see this?
What a funny guy!Trump asks Florida rally crowd: "How do you stop these people" from crossing the border?
"Shoot them!" a rally attendee shouts out.
Trump: "That's only in the panhandle you can get away with that stuff. Only in the panhandle."
It's important that people keep speaking in this country.You really think a silent protest is going to mean anything in this country. We have kids that weren't even in high school slaughtered and NOTHING happened. Hell not only did NOTHING happen but some of these idiots think it was fake.
We are selling bullet proof school backpacks right now to kids and people are just "well why didn't we think of this"
I mean it looks like the NRA is losing steam, shouldn't be too hard to out lobby or bribe them. I think the real problem is all the weapons manufacturers and the MIC though. Too much money to be made mass producing weapons.Because, while the intentions are good, the practice of paying off law makers is just as corrupt as the NRA.
However, if some billionaires manage to buy congresspersons to accomplish something good, I'm in favor of it.
Saving lives is more important than playing fair at politics.
I must have missed this. This was actually said? If so, what a POS.Trump asks Florida rally crowd: "How do you stop these people" from crossing the border?
"Shoot them!" a rally attendee shouts out.
Trump: "That's only in the panhandle you can get away with that stuff. Only in the panhandle."
I’m not a big gun guy, there has to be some kind of compromise where people know they aren’t coming for every gun but some of these unnecessary weapons are illegal? What’s the medium that makes sense I’m open to it.I mean it looks like the NRA is losing steam, shouldn't be too hard to out lobby or bribe them. I think the real problem is all the weapons manufacturers and the MIC though. Too much money to be made mass producing weapons.
I’m not going to tell you anything , I’m not going to argue with you either, I just asked a questionLets talk about it
I'm telling you right now, if AR15 platform type guns are banned tomorrow it will have zero impact on people killing other people, and by that I mean the same numbers are going to exist. The El Paso and Dayton shooters would just have used different weapons or black market ones.
Tell me - 1 law please that we can pass right now that would stop a shooter tomorrow from going into your local wal-mart and killing people
I'm listening
Complete? So what is your substitution to a basic hand gun then for most of the western half of the country in rural areas who have to contend with grizzlies, cougars, etc?To hell with background checks. This country needs a complete gun ban for civilians.
Maybe we can't stop them tomorrow, but it would have an impact in a year, two years, five years.Lets talk about it
I'm telling you right now, if AR15 platform type guns are banned tomorrow it will have zero impact on people killing other people, and by that I mean the same numbers are going to exist. The El Paso and Dayton shooters would just have used different weapons or black market ones.
Tell me - 1 law please that we can pass right now that would stop a shooter tomorrow from going into your local wal-mart and killing people
I'm listening
Well we can all give thoughts and prayers, that will surely fix the problemSure...but even tweaked, it won’t happen as long as the gun libby is as strong as it is.
And instead of a counter proposal...we just get, it wont happen. Nothing can be done. And we move on til the next shooting.
This endless cycle needs to stop.
Grosshttps://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-and-florida-crowd-share-a-laugh-over-a-rally-attendees-call-to-shoot-migrants-2019-05-09
Trump shares laugh with Florida crowd over rally attendee’s call to shoot migrants'
why won't you ?isn't that why you come to a forum ?I’m not going to tell you anything , I’m not going to argue with you either, I just asked a question
And I stand corrected, I guess there is one poster here who opposes any new kinds of gun regulation
I think that if deeper background checks and/or a day or 2 longer wait period to purchase a gun saves one life it’s worth it.why won't you ?isn't that why you come to a forum ?
look - these two shooters broke dozens of laws - laws do NOT bind people who want to kill themselves or others, we all know that
you can add 50 new laws saying don't kill people .... and these types of people will talk through those laws
so again I ask you - what new gun regulations would actually work in real life? do you really have nothing to put forth ?
howMaybe we can't stop them tomorrow, but it would have an impact in a year, two years, five years.
It is. Saints has been posting some of his other inflammatory rhetoric in other threads too.I must have missed this. This was actually said? If so, what a POS.
ok greatI think that if deeper background checks and/or a day or 2 longer wait period to purchase a gun saves one life it’s worth it.
But I’ve posted this before, this isn’t new information
If we had banned assault weapons after Sandyhook there's the possibility 29 people might not have been killed in less then 3 minutes yesterday.how
show me how - what laws could be passed to stop these kinds of people ?
we have discussed this for 350+ pages .... we know that catching these people BEFORE they act is a viable option. We've seen it over and over - its just CNN doesn't report the successful stop's.
Mile High - what would have stopped the El Paso and Dayton killers. What law or rule or regulation would have stopped them from trying to kill a bunch of people. I'm listening
You don't know that. One thing for sure doing nothing doesn't REALLY stop anyone.So neither suggestion would REALLY stop anyone
ok "possibility"If we had banned assault weapons after Sandyhook there's the possibility 29 people might not have been killed in less then 3 minutes yesterday.
It was clearly terrorism. Anyone who says otherwise is using an absurd definition.More CNN, currently having a discussion on whether the media should call this "terrorism" -- guest points out that we have literally all of the textbook definition of terrorism with the El Paso shooting, and that the media seems to be waiting for government sources to label it terrorism before calling it terrorism.
Some old white guy calling the shooter a "dip####" (live, unbleeped, other guest widened her eyes) and we should call it an 'essay' instead of a 'manifesto' -- counter argument from the host that calling it a 'manifesto' calls out that this is an ideology that exists on the darkest parts of the Internet.
I'm with the host.
nobody is saying do nothingYou don't know that. One thing for sure doing nothing doesn't REALLY stop anyone.
this is trueThe Dayton killer murdered 9 people and wounded 7 others within less than a minute before he was shot. Who can do that with a knife?
If one of those 5 or 10% were members of my family I’d be pretty happy with this.again I'm asking - what law/rule/regulation to STOP these people .... not reduce dead bodies by 5% or 10% or whatever , I want to know what will STOP them
yes but you did NOT stop the shooters with the ban of assault weaponsIf one of those 5 or 10% were members of my family I’d be pretty happy with this.
Rather than starting with laws that attempt to stop people from trying, I'd rather start with laws that attempt to stop people from doing.yes but you did NOT stop the shooters with the ban of assault weaponsIf one of those 5 or 10% were members of my family I’d be pretty happy with this.
if your family members were the other dead bodies .... then how would you feel ?
again I ask - what laws or regulations can be passed right now to STOP these people from trying to kill other people ?
All those people laughing is so absolutely disgusting. It’s like they’re brainwashed. Everyone needs to see this video particularly because of El Paso.https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-and-florida-crowd-share-a-laugh-over-a-rally-attendees-call-to-shoot-migrants-2019-05-09
Trump shares laugh with Florida crowd over rally attendee’s call to shoot migrants'
Had the same reaction to the crowd in another thread.All those people laughing is so absolutely disgusting. It’s like they’re brainwashed. Everyone needs to see this video particularly because of El Paso.
yes but you did NOT stop the shooters with the ban of assault weapons
if your family members were the other dead bodies .... then how would you feel ?
again I ask - what laws or regulations can be passed right now to STOP these people from trying to kill other people ?
greatRather than starting with laws that attempt to stop people from trying, I'd rather start with laws that attempt to stop people from doing.
not following what you meanWhy make the perfect the enemy of the good?
Thanks for calling him here and making the next 15 pages of this thread completely unreadable.I’m not going to tell you anything , I’m not going to argue with you either, I just asked a question
And I stand corrected, I guess there is one poster here who opposes any new kinds of gun regulation
They’re depriving me of my shoes.Is there anything in the Constitution about the right to fly?
Good luck with that. Make sure you take video to share.
The weapon of choice is part of the problem, yes. Reducing the availability of that weapon will reduce the number of deaths.greatRather than starting with laws that attempt to stop people from trying, I'd rather start with laws that attempt to stop people from doing.
what laws would you put in place to stop the many killed with other weapons ? do you REALLY think the weapon of choice is the problem ?
I submit it will not reduce the number of deaths - not really because there are many many other guns out there that can cause massive deaths too - handguns, shotguns, other rifles ..... you do know that right ?The weapon of choice is part of the problem, yes. Reducing the availability of that weapon will reduce the number of deaths.
(Of course no law can completely eliminate the possibility of someone acquiring such a weapon, nor can any law completely eliminate the concept of murder.)
On the other side of the coin, I've seen people attributing this to Soros, as there is some kind of rise in these events that often happens around this time when the election cycle is starting up.There are nuts out there now who are saying these last 2 attacks are planned and coordinated by ANTIFA. Unreal
And when all of the republican lawmakers were shot during the softball game.Yep. It's made clear the worst of the human condition. GB Leonard Pozner and others for making everything even worse for themselves to try to stop these ####### #######s.
But yeah, I've thought now for years that if shooting up a bunch of 5-6-year-old babies didn't matter, then none of it will. I don't know why we even engage in the conversation. Just accept that this is who we want to be, apparently.
Yep. The old “none of your laws or suggestions will work, prove me wrong” stance. Great. Let’s continue to do nothing then. Can’t believe people like this exist, especially in the immediate wake of two more of these atrocities, but here we are.Thanks for calling him here and making the next 15 pages of this thread completely unreadable.
ANTIFA is a pretty violent domestic terrorist group - it wouldn't surprise me at allThere are nuts out there now who are saying these last 2 attacks are planned and coordinated by ANTIFA. Unreal
Use the ignore functionThanks for calling him here and making the next 15 pages of this thread completely unreadable.
Why am I not surprised you’re not surprised.ANTIFA is a pretty violent domestic terrorist group - it wouldn't surprise me at all
Seriously? If you honestly think that this was some kind of “Antifa false flag” I beg you to seek professional help.ANTIFA is a pretty violent domestic terrorist group - it wouldn't surprise me at all