*** Official 2020 Jacksonville Jaguars thread - Jacksonville Jaguars Are Now on the Clock***

[Mr. Brownstone 629]

What a wild 7 days.

[JaxBill 6,976]

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[JaxBill 6,976]

@MiaOBrienTV: Trevor Lawrence is gonna hate it here 

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[roarlions 123]

Any reaction to the reports that Urban Meyer is going to be the next coach (probably more than that)? Any chance he decides to draft Fields instead of Lawrence?

[DJackson10 3,195]

3 hours ago, roarlions said:

Any reaction to the reports that Urban Meyer is going to be the next coach (probably more than that)? Any chance he decides to draft Fields instead of Lawrence?

I'm nota Jags fan but am a Florida fan. JAX is also interested in Ryan ODay the assistant coach that Urban Meyer defended who beat the daylights out of his wife that Meyer and the school covered up. Jax is going after some pretty sleazy coaches. I wouldn't go after Urban. I appreciated what he did at Florida but it came at a huge cost of destroying a ton of culture and the school is lucky they cleaned it up before NCAA got involved with sanctions. Dude hates losing so I don't think if he has 2 yrs of losing in JAX he's gonna stay long. He's a good college coach but I wouldn't touch either of these guys if I'm the Jags. Low key followed the Jags for yrs as they always seem to draft a few Florida guys. Would hate to see either of these two slim balls coaching this team. recipe for disaster. 

[amnesiac 890]

2 hours ago, DJackson10 said:

I'm nota Jags fan but am a Florida fan. JAX is also interested in Ryan ODay the assistant coach that Urban Meyer defended who beat the daylights out of his wife that Meyer and the school covered up. Jax is going after some pretty sleazy coaches. I wouldn't go after Urban. I appreciated what he did at Florida but it came at a huge cost of destroying a ton of culture and the school is lucky they cleaned it up before NCAA got involved with sanctions. Dude hates losing so I don't think if he has 2 yrs of losing in JAX he's gonna stay long. He's a good college coach but I wouldn't touch either of these guys if I'm the Jags. Low key followed the Jags for yrs as they always seem to draft a few Florida guys. Would hate to see either of these two slim balls coaching this team. recipe for disaster. 

Zach Smith was accused of spousal abuse, not Ryan Day.  

[osubuckeyeman 206]

10 hours ago, DJackson10 said:

I'm nota Jags fan but am a Florida fan. JAX is also interested in Ryan ODay the assistant coach that Urban Meyer defended who beat the daylights out of his wife that Meyer and the school covered up. Jax is going after some pretty sleazy coaches. I wouldn't go after Urban. I appreciated what he did at Florida but it came at a huge cost of destroying a ton of culture and the school is lucky they cleaned it up before NCAA got involved with sanctions. Dude hates losing so I don't think if he has 2 yrs of losing in JAX he's gonna stay long. He's a good college coach but I wouldn't touch either of these guys if I'm the Jags. Low key followed the Jags for yrs as they always seem to draft a few Florida guys. Would hate to see either of these two slim balls coaching this team. recipe for disaster. 

Dude. Are you serious?? Ryan Day is the head coach for Ohio State. I don't think there is a University out there that would hire a head coach that had been remotely near a situation like that. You might want to research even a little bit before pouring crap all over some highly respected head coach's name. "IF" the Jags could pull Day away from Ohio State and I highly doubt that. The Jacksonville Jaguars would be getting one hell of a respected and beloved head coach. I understand you made a mistake of a name of one person to another but "google" is your friend. So "NO" Ryan Day is not a "sleazy" head coach candidate.

Edited January 3 by osubuckeyeman

[osubuckeyeman 206]

14 hours ago, roarlions said:

Any reaction to the reports that Urban Meyer is going to be the next coach (probably more than that)? Any chance he decides to draft Fields instead of Lawrence?

I don't think so. I suppose it depends on the offense he intends to run and the staff he would bring in.  My guess is he would take the better player if everything is equal and that would be Trevor Lawrence in my opinion.  Urban as an NFL head coach makes no sense to me but if you told me he was going to be in the front office that I could see.  It will be very interesting if they hired him though.

[cdwood 18]

My hope is that the Jacksonville Jaguars do not hire Urban Meyer and here are my concerns:

1.  Shad Khan would be hiring Meyer because he's a big name and it would be big splash news.

2.  Meyer has no NFL experience.  I want to see the Jaguars bring in someone who has been in the NFL for a few years and can deal with a very young and inexperienced roster of players.  There is a big difference between being able to bring in recruited players than having to draft the players you want.

3.  Most of Meyer's QB's have not had sustained NFL success, so I don't trust him to develop Trevor Lawrence or any other young QB that would be on the roster.  I did look it up, here are the QB's he has worked with in college:  Josh Harris, Bowling Green; Alex Smith, Utah; Chris Leak, Florida; Tim Tebow, Florida; Braxton Miller, Ohio State; and Cardale Jones, Ohio State.

4.  I can easily see him quitting coaching in the NFL due to health reasons after a 2-3 year run of consistent losing.

 

[DJackson10 3,195]

3 hours ago, osubuckeyeman said:

Dude. Are you serious?? Ryan Day is the head coach for Ohio State. I don't think there is a University out there that would hire a head coach that had been remotely near a situation like that. You might want to research even a little bit before pouring crap all over some highly respected head coach's name. "IF" the Jags could pull Day away from Ohio State and I highly doubt that. The Jacksonville Jaguars would be getting one hell of a respected and beloved head coach. I understand you made a mistake of a name of one person to another but "google" is your friend. So "NO" Ryan Day is not a "sleazy" head coach candidate.

They hired Urban Meyer but yeah I definitely got the name wrong there that's my bad considering it was Zach Smith. However if you don't think universities wouldn't they've kept coaches or relationships for worse over the yrs or players in college. I'm not talking just OSU here but every school 

[DJackson10 3,195]

6 minutes ago, cdwood said:

My hope is that the Jacksonville Jaguars do not hire Urban Meyer and here are my concerns:

1.  Shad Khan would be hiring Meyer because he's a big name and it would be big splash news.

2.  Meyer has no NFL experience.  I want to see the Jaguars bring in someone who has been in the NFL for a few years and can deal with a very young and inexperienced roster of players.  There is a big difference between being able to bring in recruited players than having to draft the players you want.

3.  Most of Meyer's QB's have not had sustained NFL success, so I don't trust him to develop Trevor Lawrence or any other young QB that would be on the roster.  I did look it up, here are the QB's he has worked with in college:  Josh Harris, Bowling Green; Alex Smith, Utah; Chris Leak, Florida; Tim Tebow, Florida; Braxton Miller, Ohio State; and Cardale Jones, Ohio State.

4.  I can easily see him quitting coaching in the NFL due to health reasons after a 2-3 year run of consistent losing.

 

Lets be fair Alex Smith has had a pretty good career and the way SF handled that situation with him and CK was pretty bad. I agree on the QBs overall though. My thing on Tebow though there were a ton of QBs in his situation allowed in the NFL who had jobs or were starting yet it never seemed like he was given any fair shot other then when Elway pulled the plug on Fox. I defentiatelty think a position switch in the NFL should've happened but I got to admire his determination

On the other stuff yeah it'd be more of a name signing. He has no NFL experience and we've seen what the last big name HC in college in Chip Kelly did in the NFL. Also trouble always seems to follow Meyers ad his programs. Its a different ball game in the NFL and you can't cover up stuff easily. Which is why I think coach/player relationship he will struggle. Finally he hates losing and if it's consistent like you said he'll quit on the team like he did at UF and OSU already 

[GoBirds 10,397]

Hey guys congrats on landing a franchise QB....as a James Robinson owner I’m excited to watch you all next year on. 

[JaxBill 6,976]

@MiaOBrienTV: Marrone says he called Shad Khan yesterday when news of another HC broke. Khan said it was "news to him."

They are scheduled to meet tomorrow.

#Jaguars

[doeseatplace 351]

No surprises here

I actually appreciate the fact Marrone and staff kept this lousy team playing hard throughout the season.  
 

Tough to justify retaining him after 1-15, tho

very hesitant about Urbs  

[habsfan 424]

I would think if they sign Meyer there will be no half measures. Whether success or failure, it will be spectacular either way.

[cdwood 18]

On 1/3/2021 at 9:48 AM, DJackson10 said:

Lets be fair Alex Smith has had a pretty good career and the way SF handled that situation with him and CK was pretty bad. I agree on the QBs overall though. My thing on Tebow though there were a ton of QBs in his situation allowed in the NFL who had jobs or were starting yet it never seemed like he was given any fair shot other then when Elway pulled the plug on Fox. I defentiatelty think a position switch in the NFL should've happened but I got to admire his determination

On the other stuff yeah it'd be more of a name signing. He has no NFL experience and we've seen what the last big name HC in college in Chip Kelly did in the NFL. Also trouble always seems to follow Meyers ad his programs. Its a different ball game in the NFL and you can't cover up stuff easily. Which is why I think coach/player relationship he will struggle. Finally he hates losing and if it's consistent like you said he'll quit on the team like he did at UF and OSU already 

I think I was being fair to Alex Smith and that's why I said most and not all QBs.  I agree that Tebow didn't get a fair shot, but if he were a talented QB at the NFL level, he would have had another couple of fair shots to prove himself.

[Mr. Brownstone 629]

Doug had to go, but I am impressed that he never once threw his staff under the bus, JDR style. And had he replaced Todd Wash, I don't think they hold on to the #1 pick. Doug Marrone is the loser hero we didn't know we needed.

[DJackson10 3,195]

8 hours ago, cdwood said:

I think I was being fair to Alex Smith and that's why I said most and not all QBs.  I agree that Tebow didn't get a fair shot, but if he were a talented QB at the NFL level, he would have had another couple of fair shots to prove himself.

Teams wanted Tebow they just wanted him as a TE or H-Back but he was vehimitely against changing positions. It's why I said I admire the dudes determination. 

[cdwood 18]

17 hours ago, Mr. Brownstone said:

Doug had to go, but I am impressed that he never once threw his staff under the bus, JDR style. And had he replaced Todd Wash, I don't think they hold on to the #1 pick. Doug Marrone is the loser hero we didn't know we needed.

What do you think they will do with the #1 pick?  Trade back a few spots and draft a player they want, trade it for an already established QB?  I think they hold onto it and select Trevor Lawrence with it.  It almost makes too much sense to keep it.  They've never had the #1 pick before; they're using it as part of the reasoning why the Jaguars jobs are so attractive.  It would be the signature piece to a complete rebuild from ground zero.

[Mr. Brownstone 629]

7 hours ago, cdwood said:

What do you think they will do with the #1 pick?  Trade back a few spots and draft a player they want, trade it for an already established QB?  I think they hold onto it and select Trevor Lawrence with it.  It almost makes too much sense to keep it.  They've never had the #1 pick before; they're using it as part of the reasoning why the Jaguars jobs are so attractive.  It would be the signature piece to a complete rebuild from ground zero.

I was trying to say thay a mid-season Todd Wash replacement would have likely resulted in another win or two, thus taking them out of the #1 slot and out of the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes.

If the Jags pick is anything other than Trevor Lawrence at #1, then they deserve to be terrible for eternity. 

Edited January 6 by Mr. Brownstone

[doeseatplace 351]

Welcome, Trevor!

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four 700]

14 hours ago, Mr. Brownstone said:

If the Jags pick is anything other than Trevor Lawrence at #1, then they deserve to be terrible for eternity. 

I honestly think that it's more the media spinning it to "oh could Justin Fields be the guy for Jags?" between the great playoff game and the talk of Urban Meyer. Yes, the Jags will do their due diligence on this matter, but I don't think there is truly any doubt within the organization that Lawrence will be the guy.

[cdwood 18]

16 hours ago, Mr. Brownstone said:

I was trying to say thay a mid-season Todd Wash replacement would have likely resulted in another win or two, thus taking them out of the #1 slot and out of the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes.

If the Jags pick is anything other than Trevor Lawrence at #1, then they deserve to be terrible for eternity. 

Over the years I'd heard the comment that if you don't get the franchise QB pick right, it sets your organization back 5 years.  This will certainly be the case this year with the #1 pick regardless of the position they pick.  Recently I've heard that Trevor Lawrence is so far ahead of other QB's coming out this year that it's not even close to the #2 QB.  I hope they get the pick right and that Lawrence is not Gabbert 2.0

 

[JaxBill 6,976]

Noooooo!

@AdamSchefter: Urban Meyer and  the Jags met Friday night on Shad Khan’s boat in Florida, but it was not the first time the two sides have been together, per sources. There has been regular communication and interaction between the two sides. https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1347936707149242368

[Mr. Brownstone 629]

On 1/9/2021 at 12:05 PM, JaxBill said:

Noooooo!

@AdamSchefter: Urban Meyer and  the Jags met Friday night on Shad Khan’s boat in Florida, but it was not the first time the two sides have been together, per sources. There has been regular communication and interaction between the two sides. https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1347936707149242368

I'm all for it.

[Mr. Brownstone 629]

Welcome to Duval, Urbs.

Edited January 14 by Mr. Brownstone

[JaxBill 6,976]

@E_Dilla: Here’s the proof y’all been looking for. https://twitter.com/E_Dilla/status/1349772846378188801/photo/1

[Mr. Brownstone 629]

Trent Baalke hired as GM🤮.  At least we are already used to losing.