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CNN now calling burning cities mostly peaceful protests (1 Viewer)

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Make sure to watch the video, the screenshot of the chyron doesn’t do it justice. 

CNN was widely mocked late Wednesday after an on-air graphic that was broadcasted a day earlier went viral.

CNN national correspondent Omar Jimenez was reporting live in the early hours on Tuesday morning on the unrest that had taken place in Kenosha, Wis., following the police-involved shooting of Jacob Blake.

Jimenez was standing in front of a raging fire and the chyron at the bottom of the screen read, "FIERY BUT MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTESTS AFTER POLICE SHOOTING."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-panned-for-on-air-graphic-reading-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-protest-in-front-of-kenosha-fire.amp

 
Jimenez was standing in front of a raging fire and the chyron at the bottom of the screen read, "FIERY BUT MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTESTS AFTER POLICE SHOOTING."
Aside from chyron operators regularly getting criticized for editorializing (this happens) yeah there was also the Don Lemon thing where he lamented what the protests/riots might do to harm Biden's poll position.

 
Aside from chyron operators regularly getting criticized for editorializing (this happens) yeah there was also the Don Lemon thing where he lamented what the protests/riots might do to harm Biden's poll position.
...and now, Biden is accusing President Trump of "rooting for more violence, not less"
This, coming from a guy who's party didn't even mention it at the DNC. 

Pathetic projection.
You can smell the desperation from the Democrat Party.

 
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...and now, Biden is accusing President Trump of "rooting for more violence, not less" This, coming from a guy who's party didn't even mention it at the DNC. Pathetic projection. You can smell the desperation from the Democrat Party.
Biden has spoken on the violence, I think yesterday most recently.

The violence is definitely an election problem for Dems, but also for Trump as its under his administration. But once people start talking about in political terms it undercuts the value of the message. People like Lemon are definitely biased and so it's harmful when he or someone like whoever mans that chryon (and it's often young people just entering the news industry) is so blatantly political in what should be pure reportage.

 
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Biden has spoken on the violence, I think yesterday most recently.

The violence is definitely an election problem for Dems, but also for Trump as its under his administration. But once people start talking about in political terms it undercuts the value of the message. People like Lemon are definitely biased and so it's harmful when he or someone like whoever mans that chryon (and it's often young people just entering the news industry) is so blatantly political in what should be pure reportage.
Lemon and Cuomo aren't newsmen and nobody expects them to be, They're like Hannity and O'Reilly were, or like MSNBC is from 7-9. Not news at all.

 
Biden has spoken on the violence, I think yesterday most recently.

The violence is definitely an election problem for Dems, but also for Trump as its under his administration. But once people start talking about in political terms it undercuts the value of the message. People like Lemon are definitely biased and so it's harmful when he or someone like whoever mans that chryon (and it's often young people just entering the news industry) is so blatantly political in what should be pure reportage.
Oh good grief....Biden just now even mentioned the violence

...and President Trump has, time and time again, offered Federal help to those cities experiencing the violence only to be rebuked by Democratic leadership each time.
They have even gone as far as to threaten lawsuits if he did anything.

..and yes, Democrats have allowed uprisings...or "The Summer of Love" under President Trump's Administration.
To attempt to turn this on him makes anyone look like a fool.
You are best advised to eat this one.

But hey...when in the Party....act like it.

 
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Biden has spoken on the violence, I think yesterday most recently.

The violence is definitely an election problem for Dems, but also for Trump as its under his administration. But once people start talking about in political terms it undercuts the value of the message. People like Lemon are definitely biased and so it's harmful when he or someone like whoever mans that chryon (and it's often young people just entering the news industry) is so blatantly political in what should be pure reportage.
A quick information campaign educating the public regarding the Insurection Act of 1807 would dispell the talk that this a Trump administration issue.  It's part of the founding principle of the Republic.  The President is only allowed to bring in troops if the state governor/legislators request it, unless the crap is all out hitting the fan and the national security is in obvious peril.  

It's silly though because at every possible turn, the Trump administration has been saying "pick up the phone, let us come in and help." And at every turn, the Democratic party has pretended it doesn't exist, K.Harris has even remarked these kind of things won't stop and "need to continue until they are heard", etc, and i don't know if it's the case for every city issue but I know when the statue incident and t eshootings in Chicago happened, the leftist media such as CNN and MSNBC didn't even aknowledge it was occuring.  

It's almost as if the Democratic party needs the energy and divisiveness from the chaos to fuel their platform.  

 
Police killing black men is the only way Biden wins.  It’s why it’s played by the left media and DNC 24/7
Disagree. Biden wins because of Trump getting exposed during Covid.

These protests, this “law and order” shtick, is the only path Trump has. He knows it. It was the focus of their convention at least every part I watched. 

The socialist stuff isn’t going to stick to Biden, people don’t approve of Trump’s covid handling and don’t buy what he’s selling there.

This is his build the wall for this election. 

 
Disagree. Biden wins because of Trump getting exposed during Covid.

These protests, this “law and order” shtick, is the only path Trump has. He knows it. It was the focus of their convention at least every part I watched. 

The socialist stuff isn’t going to stick to Biden, people don’t approve of Trump’s covid handling and don’t buy what he’s selling there.

This is his build the wall for this election. 
Yah Covid too, agree.

 
Oh good grief....Biden just now even mentioned the violence

...and President Trump has, time and time again, offered Federal help to those cities experiencing the violence only to be rebuked by Democratic leadership each time.
They have even gone as far as to threaten lawsuits if he did anything.

..and yes, Democrats have allowed uprisings...or "The Summer of Love" under President Trump's Administration.
To attempt to turn this on him makes anyone look like a fool.
You are best advised to eat this one.

But hey...when in the Party....act like it.
This is happening under the Trump administration. We didn’t have this before him.

 
A quick information campaign educating the public regarding the Insurection Act of 1807 would dispell the talk that this a Trump administration issue.  It's part of the founding principle of the Republic.  The President is only allowed to bring in troops if the state governor/legislators request it, unless the crap is all out hitting the fan and the national security is in obvious peril.  

It's silly though because at every possible turn, the Trump administration has been saying "pick up the phone, let us come in and help." And at every turn, the Democratic party has pretended it doesn't exist, K.Harris has even remarked these kind of things won't stop and "need to continue until they are heard", etc, and i don't know if it's the case for every city issue but I know when the statue incident and t eshootings in Chicago happened, the leftist media such as CNN and MSNBC didn't even aknowledge it was occuring.  

It's almost as if the Democratic party needs the energy and divisiveness from the chaos to fuel their platform.  
I know a little bit about the Insurrection Act because it was oft discussed after Katrina here. It wasn't implemented here because basically looting and a lack of police was not considered sufficient to meet the term of an insurrection under the Constitution. It was used in NO during Reconstruction because we had people here looking to overthrow the republican (small r) state government by force (which for a bit in 1874 they did). The Insurrection Act only goes as far as the Calling Forth provision in the US Constitution lets it, and it has to be counterbalanced with the idea that the American Revolution was at least partly about keeping the British military off American streets, out of its economy and out of citizens' homes. The Posse Comitatus Act only reinforced that original intent. 

You have some other points here besides the constitutional one - states have their own state guards, they don't need or want the Feds interfering and possibly exacerbating what are basically local issues. And that last argument is a claim currently being made about the President, and IMO the civil unrest issue hurts the Dems politically and they surely know this and it's also why it was almost the whole theme of the RNCC this past week.

 
Biden has spoken on the violence, I think yesterday most recently.

The violence is definitely an election problem for Dems, but also for Trump as its under his administration. But once people start talking about in political terms it undercuts the value of the message. People like Lemon are definitely biased and so it's harmful when he or someone like whoever mans that chryon (and it's often young people just entering the news industry) is so blatantly political in what should be pure reportage.
Biden did not mention it until he was called out by Don Lemon who is concerned the riots and violence is Biden's Achilles heel. When voters are saying this is now the #1 issue it has to be addressed.

 
Biden did not mention it until he was called out by Don Lemon who is concerned the riots and violence is Biden's Achilles heel. When voters are saying this is now the #1 issue it has to be addressed.
What are we talking about here? Atlanta? Portland? Seattle? Kenosha? I am not exactly sure that Biden hasn't spoken on any or all of these instances. The most recent statement appears to be about Kenosha. Republicans like to say Biden has been in his basement but truth is he has been speaking and issuing statements on numerous things throughout the virus period. The issue is that - with a failed response to the virus and the economy tanking - Trump has placed this as a first priority because he knows he has a problem with suburbanites and other wide swaths of white voters, and then he pushes out that Biden has not spoken or shown he cares about the issue. Like I said above it's definitely a concerning issue to voters (I live in a city that itself had a confrontation between protesters and police over the course of 2-3 days a few months ago) and Biden/Dems have to address it. However, it's a fairly normal thing to put this on the administration it's happening under, that's what happened with LBJ. This just seems like another example of Trump saying he has no responsibility and then his supporters racing to support that pathology. That doesn't change the political dynamic of it, obviously Biden has to get out in front of it.

 
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So we're now using the violence primarily instigated by the radical left...as the case against Trump.  Good luck.
Well yeah - it's his administration, it's his DOJ that has dropped oversight and funding of police departments, it's his pandemic crisis and it's his unemployment crisis. And it's his watch.

 
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So we're now using the violence primarily instigated by the radical left...as the case against Trump.  Good luck.
Well yeah - it's his administration, it's his DOJ that has dropped oversight and funding of police departments, it's his pandemic crisis and its' his unemployment crisis. And its his watch.
He also has an odd way of picking and choosing what he deems dangerous. Seems to be a little politically motivated 

Trump praises group FBI calls a domestic terrorist threat - this group happens to love him

 
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oof...i dont know how to even work with this / where to start...will let you be you.  Have a good one.
I'll drop off as well, but just a further thought - we have had this kind of racial strife in some form or another since I guess the 50s. Eisenhower and JFK enforced Brown. Johnson did the war on poverty - but when violence escalated it was put on him (his watch) and he effectively resigned from a second election run. Nixon instituted vast civil rights programs. Clinton increased funding for police, which actively helped reduce crime numbers in cities. 

We know there was violence and protests under Obama - Michael Brown, Freddie Grey, Dallas, Baton Rouge - but he took steps, he had policies. He increased oversight of police departments across the country and his DOJ stepped in immediately to quell situations, it died down because people felt like something was being done. What is Trump offering or doing on any of this? To send in troops? In America? Where, everywhere? Federal troops in Chicago, Portland, New Orleans, Atlanta, Seattle, this is his whole solution and it's madness. Meanwhile in Minny if the Trump-Barr DOJ had stepped in right away it might have helped ease the pressure, we may not even be where we are without what happened in MSP.

 
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Disagree. Biden wins because of Trump getting exposed during Covid.

These protests, this “law and order” shtick, is the only path Trump has. He knows it. It was the focus of their convention at least every part I watched. 

The socialist stuff isn’t going to stick to Biden, people don’t approve of Trump’s covid handling and don’t buy what he’s selling there.

This is his build the wall for this election. 
This. 

I actually think all of the violent protests have hurt Biden's momentum/lead.

 
Disagree. Biden wins because of Trump getting exposed during Covid.

These protests, this “law and order” shtick, is the only path Trump has. He knows it. It was the focus of their convention at least every part I watched. 

The socialist stuff isn’t going to stick to Biden, people don’t approve of Trump’s covid handling and don’t buy what he’s selling there.

This is his build the wall for this election. 
I hope you now realize Biden isn't winning.

 
Maybe should actually come to a city and see for yourself. 
Right? Is it just me or is pretty much everyone complaining about 'our cities being burned down' people who live out in the suburbs or a rural area that never even go to cities anyways? I'm currently in the Atlanta suburbs and the majority of my friends down here who aren't living in the city have some pretty bad misconceptions about cities as a whole.

The majority of them have been terrified of Atlanta since I moved down here 2 years ago. Coming from the Northeast and working in NYC, I took public transportation all the time and love the convenience of it. So, when I got a new job in downtown Atlanta I figured I'd look into the public transportation options because I'd need to commute from the suburbs to the city (GF had job in suburbs and when I moved down here I was remote which is why were in the suburbs for now). Figured I'd ask people I knew here first to get their insight on public transportation to Atlanta and almost every single one of them shot it down instantly, saying it was way too dangerous to use. Thought it was a bit weird they felt so strongly about it seeing as they barely went in to the city so I went ahead and researched myself only to find out the crime rates were the same as pretty much any other cities. And what do you know, 6 months of riding the train every day (before COVID hit) and I haven't seen a single crime or ever felt threatened.

These are the same people who are now jumping on the 'cities are dying' bandwagon and think literally every square mile of a city is dangerous warzone. It's just so clear that these people stick to their bubble in their rural or suburban area, which is totally fine but they just have such crazy misconceptions of cities. I was just in Atlanta earlier this week with some friends. The amount of development and new construction that's going on in Midtown Atlanta right now is unreal. Sure, some more people might end up moving out now with more jobs being remote and some might not feel as safe, but cities are going to be just fine.

 
What are we talking about here? Atlanta? Portland? Seattle? Kenosha? I am not exactly sure that Biden hasn't spoken on any or all of these instances. The most recent statement appears to be about Kenosha. Republicans like to say Biden has been in his basement but truth is he has been speaking and issuing statements on numerous things throughout the virus period. The issue is that - with a failed response to the virus and the economy tanking - Trump has placed this as a first priority because he knows he has a problem with suburbanites and other wide swaths of white voters, and then he pushes out that Biden has not spoken or shown he cares about the issue. Like I said above it's definitely a concerning issue to voters (I live in a city that itself had a confrontation between protesters and police over the course of 2-3 days a few months ago) and Biden/Dems have to address it. However, it's a fairly normal thing to put this on the administration it's happening under, that's what happened with LBJ. This just seems like another example of Trump saying he has no responsibility and then his supporters racing to support that pathology. That doesn't change the political dynamic of it, obviously Biden has to get out in front of it.
Probably all.

I did not call Biden out..Don Lemon and CNN did.  If they think it is an issue it must be an issue to be dealt with. Otherwise you know they would not say a peep about it.

 
The only guy who can save us from what is happening during the Trump administration is Trump?

That is a pretty long bumper sticker.
You’re blaming trump because people are rioting and looting?  Does anyone have accountability for their own actions?

 
So we're now using the violence primarily instigated by the radical left...as the case against Trump.  Good luck.
The core issues of all of this are police brutality and racial injustice. Can you point me to what Trump has done to address these issues?

Democrats deserve blame without a doubt for denying Trump's help but pretending like Trump is guilty from all of this is beyond laughable. His rhetoric alone is worth criticizing, the guy just throws more fuel on the fire.

 
The core issues of all of this are police brutality and racial injustice. Can you point me to what Trump has done to address these issues?

Democrats deserve blame without a doubt for denying Trump's help but pretending like Trump is guilty from all of this is beyond laughable. His rhetoric alone is worth criticizing, the guy just throws more fuel on the fire.
I will agree that Trump throws fuel on the fire, but so do Democratic leaders who are trying to play to their base. We have seen countless times when Democratic leaders have come out and criticize the police without having all of the facts.

 
I will agree that Trump throws fuel on the fire, but so do Democratic leaders who are trying to play to their base. We have seen countless times when Democratic leaders have come out and criticize the police without having all of the facts.
There’s no question about that, you won’t see me defending the Democrats. Like I said, they’re not doing enough to keep these protests controlled and are refusing help. I think they thought that would play fine with their base but they’re slowly realizing it’s backfiring with more middle ground voters.

It’s all a bunch of political garbage from both sides, that’s why we weren’t able to pass much meaningful change even after everything that happened after George Floyd’s murder. It’s beyond a disgraceful look on the country and I struggle to grasp how anyone could find it even close to acceptable.

 
Has he stopped it?  Isn’t that his main campaign push? If he can’t stop it now, why would he be able to in the future?
....because democratic politicians don't want his help and besides, no need to go bust heads before the election.  Let them continue until after NOV 3, then after winning in a landslide send in troops and squash this once and for all.

 
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....because democratic politicians don't want his help and besides, no need to go bust heads before the election.  Let them continue until after NOV 3, then after winning in a landslide send in troops and squash this once and for all.
So your saying he’s intentionally letting them happen to win?  Nice guy.  

 
So your saying he’s intentionally letting them happen to win?  Nice guy.  
He offered help and was refused, so let them eat themselves until after NOV 3.  When he did send in troops it made a difference, but the left screamed and yelled to get the troops out.

 
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....because democratic politicians don't want his help and besides, no need to go bust heads before the election.  Let them continue until after NOV 3, then after winning in a landslide send in troops and squash this once and for all.
So you’ve got your plan figured out on how to address the protests, great! What’s your plan for addressing police brutality and racial injustice? Or is saving that Wendy’s 5 miles outside of downtown Atlanta from burning down the only thing that matters to you?

 
He offered help and was refused, so let them eat themselves until after NOV 3.  When he did send in troops it made a difference, but the left screamed and yelled to get the troops out.
So what will change after Nov 3?  He’s going to declare martial law and bring in the military?  

 
So you’ve got your plan figured out on how to address the protests, great! What’s your plan for addressing police brutality and racial injustice? Or is saving that Wendy’s 5 miles outside of downtown Atlanta from burning down the only thing that matters to you?
I agree police brutality needs to be resolved, but defunding the police isn't the answer.  We all know what happens when that is done.

 

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