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Joe Manchin (1 Viewer)

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Say what you will about this guy’s politics. 

I mostly just wanted to post this story that popped up in my news feed: Link

This dude lives on a 40’ boat while in DC: That’s awesome. 

 
I heard his wife made out very well in the current infrastructure bill. So congrats to them. 
No surprise.  Joe Manchin is very powerful at the moment and he has always played the nepotism game well.  The politicians who frequent his boat claim that it's a meeting place where they can connect as people and occasionally reach bipartisan deals. I think it's probably more like a who's who of career 'politicians,' the type who would belong to either party so long as it meant they retained their influence and power.

 
Eta: I was listening to Tim Pool who said two things she runs or heavily supports recieve large sums of money from the latest bill. I wasnt listening very well at the moment. The link was the first return from searching his wife.
Aside from the bad optics, is the money warranted?

 
Aside from the bad optics, is the money warranted?


Gayle Conelly Manchin said that the $1 billion would help the commission "to more adequately meet the overwhelming needs of communities impacted by job losses resulting from the decline in the coal industry. These ARC grants will be instrumental to the long-term diversification and economic growth in Appalachia."

seems like a lot of money to me to help the coal community rebound, but I'm not smart at all on the issue. 

 
Say what you will about this guy’s politics.


If an American child dies because his/her parents cannot afford an EpiPen, then Manchin is neck deep in that utter madness.

His campaign warchest is funded, in large part, by his relationships with Big Pharma.

In order to remain politically viable on a cash basis, Manchin makes it easier for American children to die.

Machin took an oath to serve the American people. But he only serves Big Pharma. Your children are merely cannon fodder that get in the way of that.

That's what I have to say about "this guy's politics"

 
Like the fact he is living on a boat/yacht whatever in DC. I hate to see any protesting on personal property/residences of politicians regardless of political party. As far as those complaining of him or his wife "making out" from the Infrastructure bill, if you don't think every politician is taking advantage of their office (nice way of saying they are all corrupt) I say good for you.

 
Phil Elliott said:
Like the fact he is living on a boat/yacht whatever in DC. I hate to see any protesting on personal property/residences of politicians regardless of political party. As far as those complaining of him or his wife "making out" from the Infrastructure bill, if you don't think every politician is taking advantage of their office (nice way of saying they are all corrupt) I say good for you.
Manchin’s houseboat is definitely cooler sounding than say Mitch McConnell’s damp pod he retires to at dusk to recharge. 

 
Phil Elliott said:
 As far as those complaining of him or his wife "making out" from the Infrastructure bill, if you don't think every politician is taking advantage of their office (nice way of saying they are all corrupt) I say good for you.


Direct Headline: Manchin defends CEO daughter after company raised EpiPen price

By David Wright, CNN September 7, 2016

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/07/politics/manchin-defends-bresch-mylan-epipen-price/index.html

Direct Headline: Aug. 24, 2016: Senator's daughter who raised price of EpiPen got $19 million salary, perks in 2015

By Ariana Eunjung Cha Aug 24, 2016 at 5:10 PM

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-epipen-ceo-bresch-salary-20160824-story.html

Direct Headline: Mylan and staff are big donors to CEO's dad, U.S. Sen. Manchin, but he says he had no idea

by Eric Sagonowsky | Jul 12, 2017 9:30am

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/a-recipient-mylan-donations-sen-manchin-says-he-doesn-t-know-top-contributors

Direct Headline: Mylan Executives Donate Big Money to Manchin

Company gave over $50K to senator in first quarter of 2018 while it was planning West Virginia layoffs. Manchin came under fire after it was revealed that Mylan and its subsidiaries witnessed a sudden spike in government funding after Bresch took over as CEO in 2012.

Haris Alic • April 21, 2018 5:00 am

https://freebeacon.com/politics/mylan-executives-donate-big-money-manchin/

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How many people here at FBG are parents? How many people here who are parents are well to do? How many are struggling financially? How many, if they are well to do, know other parents of other kids in the same age/class grouping as their own children who are struggling financially? An EpiPen can mean the difference between life and death.

Machin lined his pockets, BY SPENDING VAST SUMS OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO SUPPORT HIS DAUGHTERS JUGGERNAUT BIG PHARMA EMPIRE by making it easier for American children to die.

His campaign financial warchest is overflowing with blood money.

I'd like to think people are parents before they are political tribalists, but nothing would surprise me at this point.

 
Direct Headline: Manchin defends CEO daughter after company raised EpiPen price

By David Wright, CNN September 7, 2016

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/07/politics/manchin-defends-bresch-mylan-epipen-price/index.html

Direct Headline: Aug. 24, 2016: Senator's daughter who raised price of EpiPen got $19 million salary, perks in 2015

By Ariana Eunjung Cha Aug 24, 2016 at 5:10 PM

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-epipen-ceo-bresch-salary-20160824-story.html

Direct Headline: Mylan and staff are big donors to CEO's dad, U.S. Sen. Manchin, but he says he had no idea

by Eric Sagonowsky | Jul 12, 2017 9:30am

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/a-recipient-mylan-donations-sen-manchin-says-he-doesn-t-know-top-contributors

Direct Headline: Mylan Executives Donate Big Money to Manchin

Company gave over $50K to senator in first quarter of 2018 while it was planning West Virginia layoffs. Manchin came under fire after it was revealed that Mylan and its subsidiaries witnessed a sudden spike in government funding after Bresch took over as CEO in 2012.

Haris Alic • April 21, 2018 5:00 am

https://freebeacon.com/politics/mylan-executives-donate-big-money-manchin/

******

How many people here at FBG are parents? How many people here who are parents are well to do? How many are struggling financially? How many, if they are well to do, know other parents of other kids in the same age/class grouping as their own children who are struggling financially? An EpiPen can mean the difference between life and death.

Machin lined his pockets, BY SPENDING VAST SUMS OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO SUPPORT HIS DAUGHTERS JUGGERNAUT BIG PHARMA EMPIRE by making it easier for American children to die.

His campaign financial warchest is overflowing with blood money.

I'd like to think people are parents before they are political tribalists, but nothing would surprise me at this point.
I'm on your side.

 
I think nearly everyone is. Kids and spouses of politicians making bank for no reason other than being the kid or spouse is ridiculous. It has been going on forever and it is gross. It is hardly a left or right thing, although I do find that one side will call out their side more often than the other. Nothing changes though, so not sure it matters

 
Dude is a Senator from tiny West Virginia, has all these chumps kissing his ###. Did I mention he lives on a boat in DC.

He's figured out this game.

 
Joe Manchin proposed a deal to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer this summer to limit the total cost of Democrats' sweeping spending bill to $1.5 trillion, according to a copy of the agreement obtained by POLITICO.

Manchin also suggested beginning debate no earlier than Oct. 1. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/30/manchin-proposed-15t-topline-number-to-schumer-this-summer-514803
He also wants work requirements and means testing. The interesting thing is that this is supposed to help the average to struggling American yet he’s having to fight for means testing to limit the cost. 

 
Manchin does like the publicity but it seems he wants to goverm more from the middle with a little common sense.  We don`t see much of that anymore.

 
By behaving like a centrist who cares more about his constituents than his party's leftist platform.   I wish we had way more like him and fewer like AOC.


I would argue that this not even remotely true. The guy who says:  “I cannot accept our economy, or basically our society, moving towards an entitlement mentality." Has absolutely zero issue bailing out his corporate donors and lobbyists. Or maybe you can show me some legislation he's proposed specifically designed to help his constituents?

https://theintercept.com/2021/09/03/joe-manchin-coal-fossil-fuels-pollution/

https://www.dailyposter.com/manchin-bank-bailout/ 

https://youtu.be/uvXsmxgsOmI

 
It's pro wrestling kayfabe.  Manchin is the heel who does the job to get the Face over.

The rest of the democrats can go out and tell everyone how they're going to do X and Y progressive policies (knowing full well it's not going to happen) and then come back and tell their constituents that they tried everything but big bad Joe Manchin foiled them again. Then he's in a state where Trump won heavily so there really won't be too much blowback on his career. 

 
I would argue that this not even remotely true. The guy who says:  “I cannot accept our economy, or basically our society, moving towards an entitlement mentality." Has absolutely zero issue bailing out his corporate donors and lobbyists. Or maybe you can show me some legislation he's proposed specifically designed to help his constituents?

https://theintercept.com/2021/09/03/joe-manchin-coal-fossil-fuels-pollution/

https://www.dailyposter.com/manchin-bank-bailout/ 

https://youtu.be/uvXsmxgsOmI
His state on balance wants him to be a centrist.  That’s why he gets votes.  This isn’t rocket science.  Just because you want him to be the male AOC doesn’t mean his constituents want that.

 
Dude is a Senator from tiny West Virginia, has all these chumps kissing his ###. Did I mention he lives on a boat in DC.

He's figured out this game.
Sure, and because he is from West Virginia is why he is in the Senate.  If people on the left don't like Joe Manchin, the day he leaves they will really enjoy seeing him replaced with whoever wins the Republican primary.  

 
We need more people like Manchin in Washington and less people like AOC and Sanders in Washington.


Yes, we need more people like Manchin who kowtow to corporate interests, lobbyists, and corporations instead of their constituents. Got it.

 
His state on balance wants him to be a centrist.  That’s why he gets votes.  This isn’t rocket science.  Just because you want him to be the male AOC doesn’t mean his constituents want that.
I don't want him or need him to be the male version of AOC. I'd settle for the male version of Gillibrand or Amy Klobuchar.

 
I don't want him or need him to be the male version of AOC. I'd settle for the male version of Gillibrand or Amy Klobuchar.
I might personally prefer him to be Klobuchar as well.  But I’m not a WV voter. (thank god)

 
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Dude is a Senator from tiny West Virginia, has all these chumps kissing his ###. Did I mention he lives on a boat in DC.

He's figured out this game.


I agree,

AOC, Omar have mastered the game as well...and it is a game.

 Did I mention Omar paid her husband 2.7 million during her last campaign? And AOC is partying and hobnobbing with the so called elite and jet setters. Things Pelosi has done forever.

Power corrupts, always has and always will.

 
I agree,

AOC, Omar have mastered the game as well...and it is a game.

 Did I mention Omar paid her husband 2.7 million during her last campaign? And AOC is partying and hobnobbing with the so called elite and jet setters. Things Pelosi has done forever.

Power corrupts, always has and always will.
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