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Henry’s ADP high IS 2. Thats not his PPR ADP. That honor belongs to Cook.
Fair enough, but I am seeing his PPR ADP as still being higher than Kamara, who managed to get listed here as an option.Henry’s ADP high IS 2. Thats not his PPR ADP. That honor belongs to Cook.
I almost listed him, but felt the 1st tier was CMC/Cook. No insult intended to the talented Mr Henry, nor shall I be issuing an apology letter to him.
I listed Kamara because while mocking I have more consistently seen him go 1 or 2 than anyone not named Cook or CMC.
I probably wouldn’t either.
This is fair. CMC also wasn’t considered a 1.01 candidate before last year,
I do, better than Teddy at least. And in the 3 games he did play last year with Teddy he put up 28, 24 and 37.
yes, in part that’s my concern. Health, seasons of dominant performance & a new coaching staff are others.
this is a concern shared by many. One note about this though - the drop-off, if it comes, may not result in his not being worthy of a top 5 pick. Those may be mutually exclusive. Some of those historic players had fine follow-up seasons that just weren’t as dominant. Injury concerns are what they are - Henry has been pretty durable. I’d probably still take him top 5, even knowing the risks/history.
Rodgers is highly unlikely to repeat last years numbers, and it’s worth pointing out that last year he was largely an afterthought, taken by many fantasy teams as a backup QB in the middle rounds.
with CMC you have a 10 year sample. High usage, never injured seven years in HS or College and three ears as a pro. never hurt.
Bold statement.
I’m aware. When it comes to durability concerns, I see receptions as lower impact than carries.
Except it’s not just health. he has a new quarterback, new offensive coordinator entirely new coaching staff.
I have no idea. I believe I led off this topic with that very statement. That’s why I’m asking the question.
To be fair, I think he probably has the same chance to get hurt as many other players in the top five or top 20 or top 50. I didn’t even call out his injuries in the OP.
Winston has never been a check it down QB, and he’s always been poor throwing screens. I know they’ll scheme receptions for Kamara, but I’d expect his catches to go down pretty significantly.
I am soft avoiding the Saints in general. I’m higher on their offense with Winston at quarterback than Hill, but with the loss of Thomas for who knows how long, the post-Brees era it’s not off to an auspicious start.
I don't know that Darnold is a red flag against CMC, or if its just unideal, in the same sense that Henry's lack of receiving isn't a red flag, and is just unideal.
not at all - he’s a total stud & I had CMC envy in 2019 & (when healthy) 2020. Love the guy. If I had confidence that Carolina’s offense would thrive this year with Darnold behind center I wouldn’t be asking these questions.
I could see Cook, only for the fact that his team is largely unchanged. Different TE, but same QB, same talent at WR, same coaching philosophy. Consistency there gives me confidence - of course Cook is not without his own injury history.
See, I’m worried about Kamara too, for the same reason. Others have said that above as well about Kamara.
So alternate/follow-up question: if you played in a KDS style league & drew the 1.01, would you keep IT & take CMC, or pick a lower draft position?
I thought of your question when I was writing, actually. I don't know. I think I'd see what my tiers look like at the time of my draft and what I felt most comfortable with as a team. I haven't done tiers yet, so there's really no answer I could give you that would be well thought-out.
that’s fair.
I've never been and have very little knowledge of how those leagues work, but yes
It’s nothing too complex - when your name is drawn, you get to pick whichever draft position you want of the available positions.
That's how I would feel about it, too, especially with loot on the line. Don't know enough about the best ball format, but CMC seems to be king there amongst its practitioners, too.
it’s a fair take. I don’t usually consider the cost to enter in making my picks, but each to their own.
Best ball impacts a lot of decisions in a draft, but IMO in the 1st round it’s not very relevant compared to decisions down the ways a bit.
Honestly I don't think so. If anything, they will realize the need to run and do dump offs (which he would benefit from) even more. But if Darnold stinks it up I would worry about Moore and the wideouts obviously. But even when Cam was broke, and just awful, CMC still beasted. I think he's bust proof as long as he's healthy.
I don’t understand this argument. How is CMC #1 with Darnold, but Kamara isn’t top 5? Studs produce no matter what. We seen it with players like Megatron and Fitz at WR. Kamara was a stud with Teddy under center until his injury. NO has a top 3 OL. With Jameis at QB he will be a stud. Taysom at QB is likely to hurt his #s only due to him not being targeted in the passing game like last year, but in no way do I believe he will be the starter. Jameis is a much better QB than Darnold, so I don’t really see an argument here. FTR, I’m biased because I’m a Saints fan, but I don’t see this difference in CMC and Karmara’s situation.
