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That is an interesting thought. I could easily see #2 and #6 as the same, but they would easily descend into a tyrannical type of situation if the wrong leader steps forward and someone with a criminal past could do that.The other thought is that if the tail survivors are infected, based on what Rousseau described and how Ethan acted and how the Others on the boat acted, they would start acting more animalistic.
The last thought is that if the tail survivors, not having the Marshall's guns, have been attacked by Ethan/Others on the boat, then they might be a little weary of newcomers like Jin who can't speak English, and are defending themselves by any means necessary.
You forgot about Adam & Eve. I was looking back at some old footage on the www.oceanicflight815.com website and it shows Jack & Kate talking when they first discover them and Jack is saying they had to be there at least 50 years for their clothes to be in the state of decay that they were in. So 50 yrs kind of predates them to whenever everyone else showed up.Some of these groups may be the same (4 & 5). Some of them may have merged (2 & 7).
But I think you covered the greatest number of possible groups.
Agree completely. He worked for DHARMA and at one point, they had to have many people there constructing the hatch and branding sharks, but it seems like they all got sick/bolted the island to be safe and Desmond is all alone and wondering why he hasn't been replaced. The way he talked to Locke about being "him" and asking the password was as if he thought he was getting out of the hatch and going home.
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Or he didn't recognize Jack without that ridiculous wig.
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Screenshots from last night, GB the Germans.
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Screenshots from last night, GB the Germans.
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I don't know about the going home part...him saying "is the world still out there" and then mocking the people who left on the boat (basically laughing at Locke when he told them they sailed out) leads me to think he realizes there is no way off the island, and there's no world out there anyways.Agree completely. He worked for DHARMA and at one point, they had to have many people there constructing the hatch and branding sharks, but it seems like they all got sick/bolted the island to be safe and Desmond is all alone and wondering why he hasn't been replaced. The way he talked to Locke about being "him" and asking the password was as if he thought he was getting out of the hatch and going home.
Homer @ RJ
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btw, that 'Dharma' logo looks like there's a snake in the middle.Who wants to bet the producers put up some mock DHARMA website out there somewhere?
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####ers didn't get a screenshot of Kate's cleavage.
Buckychudd
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A ####### SHARK ATE ME!!:samuelLjackson:
Homer @ RJ
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How do you get a swan out of that?
I missed that quote, but he also asked if Locke was "him" and it seemed like he was hoping that his replacement was there. As far as the raft goes, he has pretty good knowledge of the island, where it is and thesharks based on the fact that he works for the folks that built the hatch and branded the shark, so he might have just chuckled at the fact that they tried to leave in a raft, not a real boat.I just really think that he has been waiting for a replacement and his body language was that of excitement when he first saw Locke and asked if he was him. Almost like they left Desmond and said that they would return at some point. Since no one came, maybe he thought that the illness had gone everywhere?I don't know about the going home part...him saying "is the world still out there" and then mocking the people who left on the boat (basically laughing at Locke when he told them they sailed out) leads me to think he realizes there is no way off the island, and there's no world out there anyways.Agree completely. He worked for DHARMA and at one point, they had to have many people there constructing the hatch and branding sharks, but it seems like they all got sick/bolted the island to be safe and Desmond is all alone and wondering why he hasn't been replaced. The way he talked to Locke about being "him" and asking the password was as if he thought he was getting out of the hatch and going home.
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Surely he heard the plane crash.....I missed that quote, but he also asked if Locke was "him" and it seemed like he was hoping that his replacement was there. As far as the raft goes, he has pretty good knowledge of the island, where it is and thesharks based on the fact that he works for the folks that built the hatch and branded the shark, so he might have just chuckled at the fact that they tried to leave in a raft, not a real boat.I just really think that he has been waiting for a replacement and his body language was that of excitement when he first saw Locke and asked if he was him. Almost like they left Desmond and said that they would return at some point. Since no one came, maybe he thought that the illness had gone everywhere?I don't know about the going home part...him saying "is the world still out there" and then mocking the people who left on the boat (basically laughing at Locke when he told them they sailed out) leads me to think he realizes there is no way off the island, and there's no world out there anyways.Agree completely. He worked for DHARMA and at one point, they had to have many people there constructing the hatch and branding sharks, but it seems like they all got sick/bolted the island to be safe and Desmond is all alone and wondering why he hasn't been replaced. The way he talked to Locke about being "him" and asking the password was as if he thought he was getting out of the hatch and going home.
File this under "way out there" theory, but here it goes...I believe that Walt's mother is, by way of a people connection, involved in the whole Dharma Corp. thing, and that's why she is traveling all over the globe ("race around the world") in her capacity as an attorney, and wanting to take Walt with her. I'm guessing Walt has seen things earlier in his life/travels, that correlate to Dharma, and to the hatch. Didn't Walt's mother died as a result of some kind of blood disease? Could this be what Desmond is afraid of? I think there is more to the Michael, Walt, Walt's mom (don't know her name) that we have yet to see in flashbacks.I read somewhere else that the snowman joke/riddle was mentioned by either Hurley or Walt/Michael or possibly even Jack in Season 1, but cannot find a link to substantiate this claim.
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Snake's don't have a body that get's thicker in the middle and they can't make an sharp turn in their body like you see in the lower right of the swan. This is a swan-like image, IMO.The sets of bars all the way around are each unique. Kinda strange for a logo. They must represent something.
It sure didn't seem like he did. Didn't Locke say that their plane crashed and Desmond said "when" and Locke said 34 days ago.Although, if Desmond knows anything about the drug plane crash, he might have been asking when to know which one Locke was from.
The weird thing about the hatch area is that we have seen nothing so far that would lead you to believe that Desmond can see or hear anything that is going on above him. Locke and Boone had to dig to uncover the hatch and the scope/mirrors that Desmond has seem to only be set up to look down the hall and up to the hatch. Even the computer screen is a DOS-type prompt so he can't see any video feeds or anything like that. Unless there is another way out, WTF does Desmond know about other than what he saw before the hatch was closed and possibly covered up with dirt.
I know the shark is supposed to be some kind of security system, but did it really do all that much to keep them on or off the island?If Sawyer had not been bleeding everywhere would have even been a factor. And Michael's random shooting was enough to disable/scare it away. Genetically engineered maybe, guard dog....hardly.
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The logo itself is an octagon, so it's 8 sided. Inside the octagon there are 36 individual black bars, none of which appear to be the same as another. Is there any significance to this? I don't know.
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I have wondered about how much if anything Desmond knew about what was going on, Locke and Boone weren't just digging the thing up, they were pounding on it with all kinds of rocks and trees and lord knows what else. Did Desmond hear none of this? Was he just jamming too much?Every time Desi looks into the mirrors he has to move them around, which to me means that he is capable of viewing more than one thing at a time, which leads me to believe there must be at least one other enterance / exit to the place. I find it hard to believe that whoever built that bunker got everything inside thru one tiny hatch.
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Anyone thing Desmond was Lenards(waco from the psyche ward) replacement?
Sack-Religious.
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About Desmond thinking Locke is his replacement.If there is another entrance/exit wouldn't his replacement use it, instead of blasting his way in? You'd think that would raise some suspicions on Desmond's part.
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The area below the actual hatch entrance isn't as "finished" as the rest of the dwelling though (rough rock walls, water leaking from the "roof" etc.). They could have put everything in there through the wider area and then put the vertical "pipe" type of thing on top of it and then filled the surrounding area with dirt. The entire area, at one point, would have to have been excavated in order for whoever built it to install the hatch itself, as well as the artificial sunlamps outside the windows.
BoltzNBrew
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Yeah I know, people here at work are theorizing and I said no way.
Buckychudd
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Dash
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Over analyzing. See below and compare the images.
The symbol is an adaptation of the Feng Shui symbol called Bagua (some of this was posted before in this thread) -- read more about Feng Shui. Dharma is the concept of the way to (or of) higher truths.Edit to add that the 8 sides represent the 8 points of a compass (N, NE, E, SE, S, etc.)
Another Edit to add: Go to the Bagua link to learn more about the morse code-like markings.
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I thought Leonard was one of the two men at the listening station that heard the numbers being transmitted.
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I bet they tie the show Invasion into this one IMO Desmond does not have a clue what is going on in the outside worldThe countdown - what happens when the countdown hits?108 is the sum of the lottery numbers.Other "hatches" - how do we explain the other hatch that Locke was almost dragged into last season? Unrelated?The whacko from the psyche word was not the replacement, Desmond was his replacement - hence why the guy is in the psyche ward - those numbers drove him crazy for having to enter it into the computer every 108 minutes. (sorry thought you had it the other way around)
IMO Desmond does not have a clue what is going on in the outside worldThe countdown - what happens when the countdown hits?108 is the sum of the lottery numbers.Other "hatches" - how do we explain the other hatch that Locke was almost dragged into last season? Unrelated?The whacko from the psyche word was not the replacement, Desmond was his replacement - hence why the guy is in the psyche ward - those numbers drove him crazy for having to enter it into the computer every 108 minutes. (sorry thought you had it the other way around)
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I think that would be true, but it seems like he is a little out of it and definitely has been down there, sleep deprived potentially do to the numbers thing, longer than he thought.I do think that there is probably another entrance just because Desmond didn't answer Locke when he asked and we haven't seen anything around the power source/magnetic field generator. The only problem is that since I haven't seen it, I can't assume that there is another hatch. It is possible that this hatch area was a bunker/fail safe built by DHARMA in case the worst case scenario did occur, maybe that is why Desmond asked that question about the world being OK.
I think you are right about that. I will have to check again, but it seemed like he looked around and there were some openings, so there could be other areas we haven't seen yet. Besides there has to be some sort of mechanical room behind the wall where Jack's key got caught in the magnetic field and where the power source for Desmond's pad is.
