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So of course BSS was the first to ask me to explain the Brady pick

Well - first is league context; best ball and survivor

Many of you know that in regular redraft leagues, I am generally a draftQBlate type

...........BUT while I would draft a RB here in a redraft, there are so many questions - about all the top RB frankly that I decided to take the road less traveled. With 6 pts per TD Brady will again be a monster if he even comes close to approaching last year's numbers - and frankly I don't see anything yet telling me the Pats will change their style.

For a survivor league, having a solid base of points is a good thing and Brady should be stout in that regard.

Captain Hook said:

So of course BSS was the first to ask me to explain the Brady pick Well - first is league context; best ball and survivorMany of you know that in regular redraft leagues, I am generally a draftQBlate type...........BUT while I would draft a RB here in a redraft, there are so many questions - about all the top RB frankly that I decided to take the road less traveled. With 6 pts per TD Brady will again be a monster if he even comes close to approaching last year's numbers - and frankly I don't see anything yet telling me the Pats will change their style.For a survivor league, having a solid base of points is a good thing and Brady should be stout in that regard.

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Can't say I blame ya. With 1 teams, you're going to be weak SOMEWHERE. At 6 pts/PATD, you're going to get monster production out of Brady (probably another 35, 40+ TDs). You'll be weak at RB by the time it comes back around to you, but hey, in these type of leagues you sometimes have to shake things up a little and maybe draft a little differently than you normally would (i.e. - cookie cutter RB-RB or RB-WR).

On McFadden,

Not much to make fun of "Mini-Bush" since I took Bush in the first round.

It only begs the question, even though you value McFadden that much, what do you think the chances are he would make it back to you? This is also why I love to draft draft picks because you can position yourself for undervalued players, like everyone else.

On my draft so far,

It seems I'm making little reaches to get players I like (Bush) and avoid bye weeks with my top two players (CJ over Smith)

I was glad to see Manning go before so the guys after me didn't get him.

What's this thread for? JK

Galloway

Mason

Curtis

Engram

Harrison

S. Moss

Chambers

May have not been expected to go earlier than Driver,

but probably did due to bye weeks small differences of opinion.

Pictus Cat said:

What's this thread for? JKGallowayMasonCurtisEngramHarrisonS. MossChambersMay have not been expected to go earlier than Driver,but probably did due to bye weeks small differences of opinion.

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Just you and me GB....maybe the others can't read or think they have deep f***ing sleepersI think Driver should have gone ahead of Mason, Moss and Chambers - no matter who is throwing and would have gone in front of Harrison a month ago, but right now everyone is drinking the "healthy" koolaid....They just snagged a few of my Rd 6 targets ..... I hate waiting (being at the end of the draft) and waiting (on slow drafters), but WCYD?

Was really hoping that Shockey or Heap would make it back to me - but basturds lurking everywhere in this draft.

Glad to get Daniels though as I think the dropoff is Huge

Squad thus far:

QB - Palmer

RB - Portis,RudiJ

WR - Colston,ReggieBrown,Vincent Jackson,

TE - Gates

Gates in round 3 and Palmer in round 4 was value that I couldnt pass up, I'll have to take a backup TE, something I wouldnt normally do with Gates in tow.

Portis and Rudi should provide a niec 1-2 punch at RB

After Colston my WR's are a little weak, but Reggie Brown is unspectatular but plays and VJax could offset some early season missed points by Gates

QB Vince Young

QB Alex Smith

RB Reggie Bush

RB Ronnie Brown

RB Warrick Dunn

RB Dominic Rhodes

WR Chad Johnson

WR Jerricho Cotchery

WR Derrick Mason

WR Amani Toomer

WR Michael Jenkins

WR Nate Washington

TE Todd Heap

Ben Utecht

PK Phil Dawson

PK Shaun Suisham

DST Vikings

DST Chargers

I'm thrilled that I drafted Javon Walker and then read the next day that he's struggling with his knee and wanted to return his signing bonus and retire before Al Davis talked him into staying. That's what you want to read about a starting WR the day after you draft him.

Evilgrin 72 said:

I'm thrilled that I drafted Javon Walker and then read the next day that he's struggling with his knee and wanted to return his signing bonus and retire before Al Davis talked him into staying. That's what you want to read about a starting WR the day after you draft him.

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If it make you feel any better I drafted steve smith in the ultimate survivor and he's gonna get me a big fat 0 for the firt 2 weeks

Evilgrin 72 said:

I'm thrilled that I drafted Javon Walker and then read the next day that he's struggling with his knee and wanted to return his signing bonus and retire before Al Davis talked him into staying. That's what you want to read about a starting WR the day after you draft him.

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Gives me a flashback a few years back when I drafted Ricky Williams at 1.02 (the year after he had that monster year), and then he promptly retired like 4 hours later...

bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

Evilgrin 72 said:

I'm thrilled that I drafted Javon Walker and then read the next day that he's struggling with his knee and wanted to return his signing bonus and retire before Al Davis talked him into staying. That's what you want to read about a starting WR the day after you draft him.

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If it make you feel any better I drafted steve smith in the ultimate survivor and he's gonna get me a big fat 0 for the firt 2 weeks

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That sucks, but grabbing D-Jax right ahead of me just before Marshall got suspended is nice consolation.

WTF is Fro doing?

QB D. Anderson-5

QB J. Russell-5

RB D. McFadden-5

RB E. James-7

WR R. Moss-4

WR M. Harrison-4

WR N. Burleson-4

TE R. McMichael-5

Both QBs, McFadden and McMichael all have bye Week 5. And that's if he gets to week 5 with all 3 WRs on bye Week 4.

Just Fro being Fro

Evilgrin 72 said:

bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

Evilgrin 72 said:

I'm thrilled that I drafted Javon Walker and then read the next day that he's struggling with his knee and wanted to return his signing bonus and retire before Al Davis talked him into staying. That's what you want to read about a starting WR the day after you draft him.

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If it make you feel any better I drafted steve smith in the ultimate survivor and he's gonna get me a big fat 0 for the firt 2 weeks

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That sucks, but grabbing D-Jax right ahead of me just before Marshall got suspended is nice consolation.

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we knew that Marshall was getting something. Steve Smith was a punch in the face LOL

My squad so far:

QB - Roethlisberger (6), Rivers (9)

RB - Addai (4)

RB - S. Young (8)

WR - Boldin (7)

WR - Bruce (9)

WR - Ma. Clayton (10)

TE - Winslow (5)

I still have work to do, but I'm pretty happy with this crew. I might regret taking Mark Clayton over Sidney Rice. Rice has more upside, but I like both of them as WRs in a big league like this. I'm clearing out the space in my trophy case for the MBSL1 hardware.

QB: Schaub (8)

WR: Smith (9), Engram (4), Berrian (8)

RB: Gore (9), Parker (6), Ahman Green (8)

TE: Tony G. (6)

K:

DEF:

Meh. A bit disappointed that I couldn't pick up Rivers, but otherwise I'm content with the team. Well at least for now, knowing me I'll end up having Shaun Hill as my only starter or something equally ridiculous at QB by wk 8.

Hey Reaper....

Thanks for grabbing Garcia...I think I like Edwards better after all

renesauz said:

Hey Reaper....Thanks for grabbing Garcia...I think I like Edwards better after all

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I think this is a stupid move for Favre and for TB... TB has a QB already... The difference at this point between a decent QB who already knows the offense and Brett Favre might not be that much but, with a lot more scrutiny and expectations....At least go to the Jets.... They NEED a QB and IMO are a better all around team than TB anyway.Maybe we get Garcia????Either way... Can we start over?

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renesauz said:

Hey Reaper....Thanks for grabbing Garcia...I think I like Edwards better after all

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I think this is a stupid move for Favre and for TB... TB has a QB already... The difference at this point between a decent QB who already knows the offense and Brett Favre might not be that much but, with a lot more scrutiny and expectations....At least go to the Jets.... They NEED a QB and IMO are a better all around team than TB anyway.Maybe we get Garcia????Either way... Can we start over?

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If I could re-make the pick right this minute, I might go with Tarvaris Jackson...lol. The only thing I know is that Favre isn't likely to end up in Buffalo....so I'm at least safe

All my QB's are gone. Who actually likes Croyle enough to take him before like rd14?

QB - Roethlisberger (6), Rivers (9)

RB - Addai (4)

RB - S. Young (8), Rice (10), Perry (8)

WR - Boldin (7)

WR - Bruce (9)

WR - Ma. Clayton (10), L. Robinson (7), Hagan (4)

TE - Winslow (5)

PK - Gostkowski (4)

DEF -

You might as well just end the draft now. I already won this league.

EBF said:

QB - Roethlisberger (6), Rivers (9)

RB - Addai (4)

RB - S. Young (8), Rice (10), Perry (8)

WR - Boldin (7)

WR - Bruce (9)

WR - Ma. Clayton (10), L. Robinson (7), Hagan (4)

TE - Winslow (5)

PK - Gostkowski (4)

DEF -

You might as well just end the draft now. I already won this league.

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Your WRs suck so much that you have to steal mine?

Shadowfax said:

EBF said:

QB - Roethlisberger (6), Rivers (9)

RB - Addai (4)

RB - S. Young (8), Rice (10), Perry (8)

WR - Boldin (7)

WR - Bruce (9)

WR - Ma. Clayton (10), L. Robinson (7), Hagan (4)

TE - Winslow (5)

PK - Gostkowski (4)

DEF -

You might as well just end the draft now. I already won this league.

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Your WRs suck so much that you have to steal mine?

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QB - Roethlisberger (6), Rivers (9)RB - Addai (4)RB - S. Young (8), Rice (10), Perry (8)WR - Boldin (7)WR - Bruce (9)WR - Ma. Clayton (10), L. Robinson (7), Hagan (4)TE - Winslow (5)PK - Gostkowski (4)DEF - You might as well just end the draft now. I already won this league.

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Very brave of you to skip the rest of your draft picks...

Team bss:

QB - Palmer,Penny

Palmer is nice and solid, got a break that I almost was gonna go 1QB, but the favre trade happened and I grabbed Pennington late. Hopefully he is the starter by week 8 when I need him the most.

RB - Portis,Rudi J,RickyW

I tend to under draft RB in this format recently and having only 3 through 14 rounds shows that. Portis should be a gamer and a rebound season from Rudi is in order. Ricky W might prodcue espeically early while Ronnie rounds back into form, usually season 1 back from ACL isnt that good anyway.

WR - Colston,R.Brown,V.Jax,D.Jax,McCariens,D.Carter

Alot of meh here IMO. Colston is a great anchor. Reggie Brown and Drew Carter got hurt already. VJax I like. Darrell Jackson and McCariens should provide some decent games. Hoping to make up the lack of quality with quantity here.

TE - Gates,LJSmith

needed to grab a backup to Gates, LJ should do nicely while I wait n see on Gates

K -

D - NePats

Pats D is gonna score a ton this year, that schedule is weak

Ahman green = bust, Steve Smith and Engram are both going to miss first two games most likely. Definitely only going to end up with 1 TE and possibly only 1 D. Yeah, things are going swell.

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Ahman green = bust, Steve Smith and Engram are both going to miss first two games most likely. Definitely only going to end up with 1 TE and possibly only 1 D. Yeah, things are going swell.

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Blue-Kun said:

Ahman green = bust, Steve Smith and Engram are both going to miss first two games most likely. Definitely only going to end up with 1 TE and possibly only 1 D. Yeah, things are going swell.

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On the plus side, you're stockpiling backup QBs.

EBF said:

My squad so far:QB - Roethlisberger (6), Rivers (9)RB - Addai (4)RB - S. Young (8), Rice (10), Perry (5)WR - Boldin (7)WR - Bruce (9)WR - Ma. Clayton (10), Stokley (8), Hagan (4)TE - Winslow (5), Fasano (4)DEF - Jets (5)PK - Gostkowski (4), Stover (10)

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A little weak at WR, but it looks pretty solid if my guys stay healthy and Selvin has a decent season.

bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

Team bss:QB - Palmer,Penny Palmer is nice and solid, got a break that I almost was gonna go 1QB, but the favre trade happened and I grabbed Pennington late. Hopefully he is the starter by week 8 when I need him the most.RB - Portis,Rudi J,RickyWI tend to under draft RB in this format recently and having only 3 through 14 rounds shows that. Portis should be a gamer and a rebound season from Rudi is in order. Ricky W might prodcue espeically early while Ronnie rounds back into form, usually season 1 back from ACL isnt that good anyway.WR - Colston,R.Brown,V.Jax,D.Jax,McCariens,D.CarterAlot of meh here IMO. Colston is a great anchor. Reggie Brown and Drew Carter got hurt already. VJax I like. Darrell Jackson and McCariens should provide some decent games. Hoping to make up the lack of quality with quantity here. TE - Gates,LJSmithneeded to grab a backup to Gates, LJ should do nicely while I wait n see on GatesK - D - NePatsPats D is gonna score a ton this year, that schedule is weak

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Not sure what to think of this team yet. Got a break with Penny. Need to see how Rudi performs this year (I think he somewhat returns to status...although I wouldn't bet any $$ on it). Can the WRs combine on alternate weeks for good scores? How is Gates going be early in the season? Perfect storm has to appear for you to advance.

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EBF said:

My squad so far:QB - Roethlisberger (6), Rivers (9)RB - Addai (4)RB - S. Young (8), Rice (10), Perry (5)WR - Boldin (7)WR - Bruce (9)WR - Ma. Clayton (10), Stokley (8), Hagan (4)TE - Winslow (5), Fasano (4)DEF - Jets (5)PK - Gostkowski (4), Stover (10)

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A little weak at WR, but it looks pretty solid if my guys stay healthy and Selvin has a decent season.

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Don't love it but I like it. I actually don't see any teams that I completely love...not sure if that's good or bad drafting on our parts. I agree if Young performs, then it's a solid team. If not, then I'm not sure the WRs can make up for it...unless Clayton really breaks through this year. I just don't see a lot of upside with this WR group.

Shadowfax said:

Blue-Kun said:

Ahman green = bust, Steve Smith and Engram are both going to miss first two games most likely. Definitely only going to end up with 1 TE and possibly only 1 D. Yeah, things are going swell.

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On the plus side, you're stockpiling backup QBs.

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What can I say, I underestimated everyone else's propensity toward marginal QB play in the double digit rounds. I mean at this point it wouldn't of shocked me for someone is actually taking Sage other than me, just because. Three starters should be fine though. Unless you seriously think Leinart and Boller are the starters for more than 5 minutes, in which case I have some time shares I think you'll be interested in.

My team after 16 rounds

QB: Romo (2.13), TJax (10.13)

RB: Westy (1.04), LWhite (4.13), Norwood (8.13), Bradshaw (9.04), Slaton (16.13)

WR: Jennings (3.04), Ward (5.04), AGonzo (6.13), Crayton (7.04), Steve Smith-NYG (12.13)

TE: Lee (11.04), Carlson (14.13)

K:

D: NYG (13.04), Balt (15.04)

Love my QB, RB and D, TE and WR is lower tier and likely the reason for my all too soon dismissal.

QB - 5.15 David Garard (7) 7.15 Jake Delhomme (9) - Love this combination.

RB1 - 1.15 Willis McGahee (6) - Get well fast!

RB2 - 3.15 Laurence Maroney (4) - Should be a solid RB2

RB3/4 - 10.2 Justin Fargas (5) 11.15 Chris Brown (8) - Like these two guys for plenty of contributions.

WR1 - 2.2 Larry Fitzgerald (7) - One of the best.

WR2 - 4.2 Brandon Marshall (8) - Losing him for a few weeks hurts and coupled with several other early injuries, I may be a quick exit but if I make it past the first 2 weeks, having him as a 2 is sick.

WR3 - 8.2 Bryant Johnson (9) 16.2 Josh Morgan(9) - Mike Martz receivers - Good matchups early on for San Fran. If Bryant J is out early, maybe the rook can get it done.

WR4/5 - 9.15 Jerry Porter (7) 12.2 Michael Clayton (10) - Porter is another on the list of wheelchair guys. Clayton may contribute more than you think this year.

TE - 6.2 Chris Cooley (10) 14.2 Dustin Keller (5) - Like this combo. Week 10 Cooley has a bye, Keller fills in nicely by then. Trust me.

15.15 Mason Crosby (8) 17.15 Lawrence Tynes NYG

13.15 Tampa Bay DST (10) Detroit DST

Blue-Kun said:

Shadowfax said:

Blue-Kun said:

Ahman green = bust, Steve Smith and Engram are both going to miss first two games most likely. Definitely only going to end up with 1 TE and possibly only 1 D. Yeah, things are going swell.

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On the plus side, you're stockpiling backup QBs.

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What can I say, I underestimated everyone else's propensity toward marginal QB play in the double digit rounds. I mean at this point it wouldn't of shocked me for someone is actually taking Sage other than me, just because. Three starters should be fine though. Unless you seriously think Leinart and Boller are the starters for more than 5 minutes, in which case I have some time shares I think you'll be interested in.

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I think they give every Leinart every chance possible this year and while Warner will probably see some time this year, I don't think Warner is a startable fantasy QB this year. Boller and Smith are a toss up right now but Balt will soon realize they know Boller has his limits and will want to see what Smith can do for them...or Flacco (who I think they would love to see win the job). IMO, drafting Rosenfels was a bad decision. Using 4 out of 18 spots of your roster on QB is bad. You're shorting yourself too much at other positions. If you really thought that Warner and/or Smith can be semi-productive for you, then roll with that thinking and don't try to cover your main QB with his backup. If Schaub gets hurt, then he gets hurt. You need some luck in these leagues and you just have to cross your fingers, things work for you. But wasting 4 slots on QB won't work. Especially since you already had some bad luck with Smith/Engram (and Green to a degree). You need depth at other positions now.

jeter23 said:

My team after 16 roundsQB: Romo (2.13), TJax (10.13)RB: Westy (1.04), LWhite (4.13), Norwood (8.13), Bradshaw (9.04), Slaton (16.13)WR: Jennings (3.04), Ward (5.04), AGonzo (6.13), Crayton (7.04), Steve Smith-NYG (12.13)TE: Lee (11.04), Carlson (14.13) K: D: NYG (13.04), Balt (15.04)Love my QB, RB and D, TE and WR is lower tier and likely the reason for my all too soon dismissal.

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Your WRs may not be as bad as you think...but I do think you'll need AGonzo to produce. I know there aren't a lot of good choices left but I would have liked to seen another WR instead of Slaton. TE is one of the worst in the league but maybe Carlson can give you a few games with all the SEA WR injuries.

But wasting 4 slots on QB won't work.

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I disagree, I think 4 QB slots can work and that's what I was trying out. Last year I almost won the league w/o QB points for 5 weeks straight, however the opposite was true for other people because they were staying in largely off some ridiculous QB performances This year I wanted to see how having many garbage QB's would work as compared to having just two that lose their starting jobs due to injury / bad performance. The thing for me is, I totally fubar'd the second half of the draft and the Ahman Green pick. What I should've done was take some do-nothing RB that'd of gotten me points week to week instead of rolling the dice with a known old injury risk. Sure the reward is huge, but the whole point with this many QB's is you get to take the safe / slightly better guys as a result of late QB's. 1 TE is actually fine if you land a top 4 guy. If your top-flight TE gets hurt, random flier isn't going to be usable anyway. 1 Defense is similar. 1 K is a horrid mistake. I had a terrible second half draft, but I think overall it could've been salvaged with a break or two and a little more awareness of how much the injuries / byes were going to limit my choices. Despite my want of 8 WR in every best ball league, I'd of been content with 6 here because I think all my guys will be producing to some degree, but with only 4 WR (realistically 3) to get through the first 2 weeks the draft plan may have to change again and that'll probably end me. I either roll the dice with no depth at any non-skills position to cover up the loss of my first 2 WR for the first few weeks or I just hope some other team falls apart.

Blue-Kun said:

But wasting 4 slots on QB won't work.

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other people because they were staying in largely off some ridiculous QB performances

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Yeah, those guys are a bunch of slappers.- WE Champ Brady in the 6th round owner here

- SSL 2 champ Brady owner

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QB Vince Young

QB Alex Smith

RB Reggie Bush

RB Ronnie Brown

RB Warrick Dunn

RB Dominic Rhodes

WR Chad Johnson

WR Jerricho Cotchery

WR Derrick Mason

WR Amani Toomer

WR Michael Jenkins

WR Nate Washington

TE Todd Heap

Ben Utecht

PK Phil Dawson

PK Shaun Suisham

DST Vikings

DST Chargers

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I just realized this is the 18th round

QB - Roethlisberger (6), Rivers (9)

Good group. Roethlisberger should give me good production most weeks and Rivers has high job security and big game potential.

RB - Addai (4), S. Young (8), Rice (10), Perry (5)

Not bad. Addai should be a quality RB1. Even if Young splits carries, he'll be a serviceable RB2 in this format as long as he produces like he did last year. He has the potential for a top 15-20 finish. Rice and Perry should get some touches each week and they both have breakout potential.

WR - Boldin (7), Bruce (9), Ma. Clayton (10), Stokley (8), Hagan (4), Jarrett (9)

Pretty mediocre here. The top 3 are okay, but the depth is spotty. I need Hagan or Jarrett to step up. Then again, a WR5 in a 16 team league is anyone between WR 65-80. When you think of it that way, I'm actually not looking too bad.

TE - Winslow (5), Fasano (4)

Winslow is a stud. I considered skipping TE2 altogether, but I really wanted to have an insurance policy in the event of injury.

DEF - Jets (5), Saints (9)

Two defenses with their byes spread out.

PK - Gostkowski (4), Stover (10)

Two veteran kickers with good job security.

Overall - Not an exciting team on paper, but it doesn't have a lot of glaring weaknesses. If my guys stay healthy and I get average production from my WRs, I can go deep. If some of my sleepers explode then I could cruise through this thing. Either way, I don't see an early elimination here unless my WRs totally falter.

Peyton Manning (4), Brodie Croyle (6)

Marshawn Lynch (6), Fred Taylor (7), Kenny Watson (8), Kevin jones (8)

Roy Williams (4), Laverneous Coles (5), Donald Driver (8), Drew Bennett (5), Ernest Wilford (4), DeSean Jackson (7)

Heath Miller (6), Marcedes Lewis (7)

WAS (10), KC (6)

David Akers (7), Joe Nedney (9)

I like this team a lot more than my other SLs. a little thin at RB but strong at WR. no glaring holes.

I was hoping all along that DeSean Jackson would fall to my 18th round pick since I knew I'd be taking a WR there, but he didn't make it. I think he was a steal for you at WR6. I wish I had taken him in SSL2 instead of Early Doucet. Don't know what I was thinking.

QB: E. Manning (4), J. Campbell (10)

RB: R. Grant (8), T. Jones (5), L. Washington (5), C. Buckhalter (7)

WR: T. Owens (10), K. Curtis (7), J. Gage (6), D.J. Hackett (9), T. Williamson (7), Rashied Davis (8)

TE: J. Shockey (9), Alex Smith (10)

K: N. Folk (10), R. Lindell (6)

D/ST: Seattle (4), Denver (8)

Not a lot to get excited about with this team. One of the best things you can say is that there are no major bye week issues (RB excepted).

QB: Manning has put up decent numbers in the past, but he tends to also throw up some stinkers. Campbell is learning a new offense (again), but he should begin to show improvement in the 2nd half of the season.

RB: I think Green Bay will use the running game to try and keep pressure off of Rodgers, which should help out Grant’s numbers. McCarthy has shown fait in him by sticking with him in the playoff game against Seattle when he had fumbling issues early. RB 2/3 appears to be an instance where I spent two picks to get one RB (assuming a RBBC in NY). Hopefully Jones will score more than one TD this year, but Washington should see some action in the passing game that will pick up the slack. In looking at the Eagle games last year Buckhalter saw enough action that lead me to conclude that the RB2 in Philly will get about 3-6 pts a week in this format. Sorry, but I don’t see Booker taking over the RB2 role this year.

WR: Three No. 1 receivers, but only one has a long and proved track record. Curtis is a player that I seem to target every year and he performs above his ADP in my other leagues. If Philly has a decent No. 2 then Curtis will be ok. Hackett will get the start for 2 games, but probably won’t put up much after that. Williamson will be lucky to make the team, I should have researched the Jacksonville WR situation before drafting him. Davis is last year’s sleeper in Chicago, if he consistently counts in my scoring I will be in deep trouble.

TE: I waited to get a TE and wound up with Shockey. A big risk here as he always seems to get hurt. But, if healthy, he should put up good numbers in the NO offense. He could be in for a career year, and if he is then he will be very overrated next year. Smith is just a warm body who will hopefully produce something when Shockey is off.

K: Best thing is that they don’t share a bye. Folk should get lots of opportunities in Dallas.

D/ST: I wanted at least one team from the NFC West as they will play SF twice and will have a good opportunity for sacks and INTs in those games. Seattle seemed like the best bet to put of good numbers in that division. At least Denver does not share a bye with them.

Overall: Above average team that should perform middle of the pack. I was conservative in drafting from the 14th slot and did not take many chances. I predict that I should stay in it until around weeks 6-9, but not much after that.

Was a very interesting draft

QB - Brady (4), Boller (10)

RB - DWill (9), J. Stewart (9), F. Jones (10), Torrain (?), S. Morris (4)

WR - Holt (5), Holmes (6), Walter (8), Hester (8), Hilliard (10), Obomanu (4)

TE - Daniels (8)

K - Kaeding (9) and Bironas (6)

DST - Cowboys (10) and Eagles (7)

Overall I like the team.. will go as far as Brady can take it.

Hopefully Torrain is not out for the year.

I think Hester is very underrated in this format.

Play low and watch em go................

Fullback Fro

Pick Pos Player Team

05.11 QB7 Derek Anderson Cle/5

08.06 QB24 JaMarcus Russell Oak/5

02.06 RB18 Darren McFadden Oak/5

03.11 RB21 Edgerrin James Ari/7

11.11 RB47 Maurice Morris Sea/4

14.06 RB76 Jamaal Charles KC/6

01.11 WR1 Randy Moss NE/4

04.06 WR28 Marvin Harrison Ind/4

06.06 WR31 Nate Burleson Sea/4

09.11 WR54 Muhsin Muhammad Car/9

13.11 WR69 Eddie Royal Den/8

12.06 WR102 Arnaz Battle SF/9

10.06 TE14 Greg Olsen Chi/8

07.11 TE15 Randy McMichael StL/5

16.06 PK17 Ryan Longwell Min/8

17.11 PK23 John Kasay Car/9

15.11 DEF10 Tennessee Ten/6

17.12 DEF32 San Francisco SF/9

Made two huge mistakes as I was away from my computer and made picks from my cellphone. My first three WR's all had the same bye week. Never even checked. Second was I made my 2nd QB pick without checking bye weeks either. Week 5 I will have no QB scoring along with no McFadden my RB1 which I selected too early.

But I always take chance in these survivors and the top rookie RB has always outperformed his draft spot in these leagues the last few seasons.

I basically spent the rest of the draft trying to cover those mistakes. If I can somehow survire weeks 4 & 5, this team may actually have a shot.

QB: 4.15 - Donovan McNabb - QB7 - Philly(7), 9.02 - Trent Edwards - QB23 - Buff(6)

It's no secret that I love me some McNabb this year. He was the highest rated QB in terms of PPG in 06 before his knee injury, and is finally back to 100%. A lot of guys are calling him "injury prone", but I don't buy the label in this case, and I'm ecstatic to be grabbing what could be a top 3 QB in the fourth/fifth rounds of most drafts. I wanted a better backup, but the value never really fell for me.

RB: 1.02 - Adrian Peterson - RB2 - Minn(8), 3.02 - Jamal Lewis - RB16 - Clev(5), 6.15 - Chester Taylor - RB33 - Minn(8), 12.15 - Ladell Betts - RB - Wash(10)

Would have liked to grab another RB, but it's hard to carry five in the later survivors without causing a worse shortage elsewhere. Hopefully ADP lives up to his ADP. Was worried about injury, so Chester Taylor is an obvious (and terrific) handcuff. Jamal Lewis, if he stays healthy, should out-perform his draft position easily. If they stay healthy, this could be one of the stronger RB groups in MBSL1.

WR: 2.15 - Plaxico Burress - WR13 - NYG(4), 5.02 - Joey Galloway - WR29 - TB(10), 8.15 - Ronald curry - WR49 -Oak(5), 10.15 - Robert Meacham - WR64 - NO(9), 13.02 - Demetrius Williams - WR - Balt(10), 18.15 - Jacoby Jones - WR - Hou(8)

A bit more risk in this group then I normally like. So much so that in the 18th, I felt like I had no choice but to grab another WR, even though I would have really liked another RB. Burress (or more accurately, his ankle) scares me as a WR1, but he was the best available late in the second. Galloway also seemd appropriate value, but carries inherent risk at his age. I love Curry this year, but he's not what I'd consider an ideal WR3 in this format. Meachem and Williams are nice sleepers I think. Overall, a high-risk, high-reward group.

TE: 7.02 - Vernon Davis - TE11 - SF (9), 14.15 - Viasanthe Schiancoe TE - Minny(8)

I love Vernon Davis at this draft slot, and have been picking him up in several leagues this year. Davis simply has more talent then any other TE in this area, and while doubts remain as to how he'll be utilized in Martz' offense, I see a finish in the TE12 area as his downside, not his upside. Shiancoe is anything but exciting, but should score a few weeks.

DST: 11.02 - Buffalo Bills - Def8(6),16.15 - Arizona Cards - DEF(7)

I got two, so I'll score fine here.

PK: 15.02 - Adam Vinatieri - K - Indy(4), 17.02 - Kris Brown - K - Hou(8)

Kickers tend to be afterthoughts in these leagues, but I do think it's pretty important to have two. A four FG day can give a huge boost to an otherwise mediocre week, and those PK weeks are twice as likely if you have two top 20 PK's.

I like this team, but I don't love this team. ALthough I got a couple of my favorite sleepers at appropriate draft slots, I saw many of my targets fall just a pick or two ahead of me, and felt especially shorted looking for WR value. In the end, I expect this team to be competitive, but I'll need a couple of these WR's to out-perform expectations in order to win a title.

My team sux.

BusMan's Draft

The draft was pleasantly interrupted by the birth of my first child. Mom and baby are very happy and healthy, and therefore so is Dad. Being away from a computer and DD for bits and pieces of this draft made me realize just how reliant I've grown on these tools to be a successful drafter. A perfect example of this is when Driver fell. That would have never happened if I'd been at work during the whole draft, pounding DD as the picks were made. Life happens sometimes---in this instance, I believe the luck of my daughter will outweigh any poor draft choices made.

The Picks

I was drafting here in MBSL 1 and for Anarchy 3 at the same time, and in both leagues I pulled a pick at the 8/9 middle of the 16-team league. I really enjoyed these spots as I never had to wait too long to draft and I could at least attempt to scoop any value that fell off the turns.

1.09 - Marion Barber III, RB - DAL/10: I'm high on EmBeeThree, despite the fact that he might not see an increase in touches with Felix Jones and Tashard Choice in town. I had him as the #6 RB on my board, and got him as #10---I like it.

2.08 - T.J. Houshmanzadeh, WR - CIN/8: Hoosyermomma was the #5 WR on my board so he was a good value here. Hopefully his hammy won't be an early season issue. I'm glad I had this pick as a major WR run streaked through the second round.

3.09 - Michael Turner, RB - ATL/7: Turner is one of those guys that I had stashed on my keeper league bench two years ago, just in case he got traded to a contender. I'm a big believer in his talent, but his situation leaves much to be desired. Nonetheless, if preseason play is any indication, I'm going to enjoy him as my RB2. I've taken Edge over him (like in Ultimate Survivor League 4), but I've grown to appreciate the Burner's upside more, and fear a Tim Hightower cut-in for Edge.

4.08 - Roddy White, WR - ATL/7: This was the best value pick according to DD, although now I've just grabbed two Falcons in a row despite not being high on their offense this year. Hopefully Roddy and The Burner score all of ATL's points this season.

5.09 - Santana Moss, WR - WAS/10: I don't know what to make of S. Moss this year, but I feel like Campbell is improving and coach Zorn will be an slight upgrade for the Redskins offense. Not bad as a third WR, I guess.

6.08 - Marc Bulger, QB - STL/5: Time for a QB. Bulger is the last of the fringe QB1s left. I'm not high on him, so I'm going to need a solid second QB, and fast.

7.09 - Aaron Rodgers, QB - GB/8: I wanted Vince Young here but he was ganked from me by Pictus Cat (which I deserve for stealing his picks in USL4). I finalize my QB position with the unknown that is Aaron Rodgers. One things for sure, he's walking into a pretty good offensive situation. Hopefully he throws more TDs than picks this year, although that might be a coin-flip kind of proposition. The plan is for Bulger and Rodgers to push each other to a solid week every week. :fingerscrossed:

8.08 - Zach Miller, TE - OAK/5: Luckily my main TE target from round seven made it to me here in round eight. After making up for not drafting QBs early, its time to work on TEs. Miller has low TE1 potential, and as such I'm going to need to pair him up with another decentish option in the next couple of rounds.

9.09 - Pittsburgh, DEF - PIT/6: With Blue-Kun and Pictus Cat snagging defenses right in front of me, I'm sensing a run. I switch gears from TE and take my best available defense. Ended up there wasn't really a big run on D, but I'm glad I got them nonetheless. And I only ended up missing one TE target because of it.

10.08 - Ben Watson, TE - NE/4: Watson is what, maybe the 4th or 5th offensive option for Tom Brady? When he manages to catch a touchdown, he 'll probably break into the lineup (hopefully he has a big game Week 5 against San Fran). Otherwise, I think Miller will run the TE squad for the BusMen.

11.09 - Brandon Jackson, RB - GB/8: With my starting squad pretty much set, its time to start looking for some depth. I like what I've heard about Brandon Jackson running the ball, but I'm concerned about his blitz pickup ability (or more accurately, his lack thereof). He'll likely only end up being useful if Grant gets dinged.

12.08 - James Jones, WR - GB/8: What do you know, another Packer. Here's raising a frothly cold one to several deep connections for scores between Rodgers and Jones.

13.09 - Devard Darling, WR - KC/6: Another attempt to secure some WR depth. Like Jones, I see Darling as a deep threat that may occasionally break into the starting lineup on the strength of a long bomb TD or two.

14.08 - Dennis Northcutt, WR - JAC/7: I'm very unclear on the Jacksonville WR situation. It seems like lots of guys are hurt. Hopefully Northcutt stays healthy and gets a few looks here and there.

15.09 - Leonard Weaver, RB - SEA/4: Color me a non-believer in Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett. Maybe Weaver will get some goalline love?

16.08 - Cleveland Browns, DEF - CLE/5: Just grabbing my second defense before they all disappear. Its happened to me before.

17.09 - Matt Prater, PK - DEN/8: Prater's got a helluva leg, but will he have the accuracy to make kicks in the clutch like the man he replaced in Denver, Jason Elam? I don't know, but it appears Shanahan has faith in him. Hopefully the guy doesn't miss a bunch of field goals at the beginning of the year and then get cut.

18.08 - Jason Elam, PK - ATL/7: Speaking of Jason Elam, why not? His leg is decreasing in strength and the Atlanta offense will likely suck, but then again, why not? Have I mentioned I'm a Broncos homer?

The Team

QB Marc Bulger, STL/5QB Aaron Rodgers, GB/8RB Marion Barber III, DAL/10RB Michael Turner, ATL/7RB Brandon Jackson, GB/8RB Leonard Weaver, SEA/4WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh, CIN/8WR Roddy White, ATL/7WR Santana Moss, WAS/10WR James Jones, GB/8WR Devard Darling, KC/6WR Dennis Northcutt, JAC/7TE Zach Miller, OAK/5TE Ben Watson, NE/4PK Matt Prater, DEN/8PK Jason Elam, BUF/7DEF Pittsburgh, PIT/6DEF Cleveland, CLE/5No major bye week issues, although Week 7 could be a little sketchy with all my Falcons on a bye. Why the hell do I have so many Falcons!?The Results...

The way I see this league going:

Week 1 - Fullback Fro gone; Reaper with immunity

Week 2 - Jeter23 gone; Shadowfax with immunity

Week 3 - EBF gone; Reaper with immunity

Week 4 - EvilGrin72 gone; Pictus Cast with immunity

Week 5 - Old Milwaukee gone; Reaper with immunity

Week 6 - Blue-Kune gone; Shadowfax with immunity

Week 7 - bicycle_seat_sniffer gone; Captain Hook with immunity

Week 8 - Pictus Cast gone; ArhnCityPahnder with immunity

Week 9 - JohnDoe gone; BusMan with immunity

Week 10 - Team Legacy gone; Shadowfax with immunity

Week 11 - Captain Hook gone; Reaper with immunity

Week 12 - ArhnCityPahnder gone; Renesauz with immunity

Week 13 - BusMan gone

Weeks 14-15 - Reaper gone

Weeks 16-17 - Renesauz gone

Champion: Shadowfax

Someone give me a high-five if that actually happens.

It was fun guys good luck to all!