Huh? Brees/CJ by a mile... What am I missing?12 team PPR, 6pt passing td's
Team A gets: Brees, CJ2k
Team B gets: David Wilson, Cameron, 2015 2nd
Nothing really, save that Team B is rebuilding, and Team A isn't. (I'm team A in the deal - this upgrades Ben to Brees).Huh? Brees/CJ by a mile... What am I missing?12 team PPR, 6pt passing td's
Team A gets: Brees, CJ2k
Team B gets: David Wilson, Cameron, 2015 2nd
Not to my knowledge. He has a bunch of "maybe" RBs including Spiller, Gore, T Rich, L Miller, J Stew, David Wilson, and even the other Houston RB Andre Brown (so he locks up that backfield). He also has the #1, #3, and #4 rookie picks and likely wouldn't have had the roster room to hold them all (10 team IDP league with 31 man max rosters), and will likely look to move the #22 and #26 he just got.Does Team A's owner smoke crack?Team A traded the #6 rookie pick, Ray Rice, Vereen and Ridley
Team B traded Arian Foster, the #22 and #26 rookie picks.
Made out like a bandit I'd say12 team PPR dynasty. Needed a #2 RB badly.
Gave: Nelson, D. Moore, Geno Smith
Got: Vereen, Hilton, Wheaton, 2.6
All depends on Vereen and I'm not sure he's going to be as valuable after the draft.Made out like a bandit I'd say12 team PPR dynasty. Needed a #2 RB badly.
Gave: Nelson, D. Moore, Geno Smith
Got: Vereen, Hilton, Wheaton, 2.6
Agree.Made out like a bandit I'd say12 team PPR dynasty. Needed a #2 RB badly.
Gave: Nelson, D. Moore, Geno Smith
Got: Vereen, Hilton, Wheaton, 2.6
Brees side easySpin said:Huh? Brees/CJ by a mile... What am I missing?jwb said:12 team PPR, 6pt passing td's
Team A gets: Brees, CJ2k
Team B gets: David Wilson, Cameron, 2015 2nd
Same leagueBrees side easySpin said:Huh? Brees/CJ by a mile... What am I missing?jwb said:12 team PPR, 6pt passing td's
Team A gets: Brees, CJ2k
Team B gets: David Wilson, Cameron, 2015 2nd
non-PPR doesn't that make RB's worth more? 1.02 would likely be #1 RB if not Watkins...agreed, i'll take floyd over evans, so 1.08 is freeSide B all the way. Floyd and someone like Beckham for Evans. Yeah I'll take that.12 team, Non-PPR
A gets: Michael Floyd, 2014 1.08
B gets: 2014 1.02
I am actually the person who made this deal. Hyper Active leagues use a format of 1QB, 1RB, 1 WR, 1 TE and 4 WR/RB/TE flex positions. Most of the people in these leagues approach this setup with WR's being a highly valued asset. Most of the guys in these leagues are highly respected posters or staff at either FBG, DLF and in one case works for ESPN. The worth of WR's are gold. I tried moving McCoy in multiple offers for the top 8 or so WR and got no where. I believe in Watkins and think in 3 years he will be top 5 or so at WR and maybe overall as Green, Julio etc.. get older.Spin said:The definition of "older RBs" keeps getting younger and younger. Next thing you know, we'll be trading 23/24 year old rbs, trying to get out from under the "old" label.cstu said:Keep in mind that you only have to start 1 RB in this league and he also has Lacy and Spiller. Older RB's don't carry much value (even though McCoy is only turning 26).I imagine it shouldn't be long before team B is able to get 1.01 without needing to trade for it.Not involved.
Team A gets: McCoy
Team B gets: 1.1
I think this is where most will disagree with you. There is a 50/50 chance that Watkins busts completely. Above and beyond that--planning 12 years out is a bit of a stretch for most of us.Watkins will be a viable starter for maybe 12 years
Yup.. Give me the young RB over Floyd, the 1.08, and then some.non-PPR doesn't that make RB's worth more? 1.02 would likely be #1 RB if not Watkins...agreed, i'll take floyd over evans, so 1.08 is freeSide B all the way. Floyd and someone like Beckham for Evans. Yeah I'll take that.12 team, Non-PPR
A gets: Michael Floyd, 2014 1.08
B gets: 2014 1.02
50/50? I think most would agree this is exaggerating the other end of the spectrum. He's going to go around pick 5 give or take a few spots. Don't think the bust rate is that high for players drafted that highly.I think this is where most will disagree with you. There is a 50/50 chance that Watkins busts completely. Above and beyond that--planning 12 years out is a bit of a stretch for most of us.Watkins will be a viable starter for maybe 12 years
Coop you may be right but I am not of that opinion. Every pundit I have heard has said he his the best rated WR prospect since AJG and Julio. There is risk in McCoy also has as with any RB he is more apt to get injured. Also he has some of his PPR value going to Sproles this year...I think this is where most will disagree with you. There is a 50/50 chance that Watkins busts completely. Above and beyond that--planning 12 years out is a bit of a stretch for most of us.Watkins will be a viable starter for maybe 12 years
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1155243-2012-nfl-draft-how-often-do-wide-receviers-bust-in-the-1st-round50/50? I think most would agree this is exaggerating the other end of the spectrum. He's going to go around pick 5 give or take a few spots. Don't think the bust rate is that high for players drafted that highly.I think this is where most will disagree with you. There is a 50/50 chance that Watkins busts completely. Above and beyond that--planning 12 years out is a bit of a stretch for most of us.Watkins will be a viable starter for maybe 12 years
That's why busts are busts--they were expected to be good. Every pundit you've heard praise Watkins has been wrong a lot.Every pundit I have heard has said he his the best rated WR prospect since AJG and Julio.
Most would be wrong, then, depending on how you want define a bust. DLF did a pretty good study on it, if you can find it. It's been 2 years, IIRC, and I don't know how their archive system works.50/50? I think most would agree this is exaggerating the other end of the spectrum.
And that is why this hobby is fun. None of us really have much of an idea but we all think we do...That's why busts are busts--they were expected to be good. Every pundit you've heard praise Watkins has been wrong a lot.Every pundit I have heard has said he his the best rated WR prospect since AJG and Julio.
As you said; it's all opinion at this point and I could be wrong just as easily as you could.
A lot of those "okays" are clear fantasy busts, IMO. Good find.http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1155243-2012-nfl-draft-how-often-do-wide-receviers-bust-in-the-1st-round
14 WRs in top 10
5 Busts
4 Okays (which includes Ted Ginn)
5 Hits
Given Watkins' height, I think it is closer to 50/50 than 50/50 being an exaggeration.
Every "ókay"on the list is a bust except for Crabtree and Demaryius. Basically, if the WR was a top 6 pick, they hit but everything after was a crapshoot. Also, list isn't complete, it's dated and they listed Britt, Maclin and Bowe as "hits", which are very iffy calls.A lot of those "okays" are clear fantasy busts, IMO. Good find.http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1155243-2012-nfl-draft-how-often-do-wide-receviers-bust-in-the-1st-round
14 WRs in top 10
5 Busts
4 Okays (which includes Ted Ginn)
5 Hits
Given Watkins' height, I think it is closer to 50/50 than 50/50 being an exaggeration.
I dunno. I'd classify Maclin and Bowe as okay.Maclin and Bowe qualify as hits -
Britt qualifies as a bust (no doubt).
Interesting one, obviously Green but the team getting the picks can get Evans, the top RB and a good player at #16.10tm, PPR, Start 2-2-3-1 with 2 RB-WR-TE flexes.
AJ Green, S.Bailey, Todman
For
1.2, 1.3, 2.6
Note: Owner getting Green also owns the other team's 15 1st,2nd,3rd. Team getting the picks has Foles, Charles, Cobb, little else.
That's a great trade for you. What was the other owner thinking? He must be a Geno and/or Housler hype fan.Gave: 2015 1st, Geno Smith, Housler
Got: 1.12, Greg Olsen
I needed a TE since all of mine are young (L.Green, Fleener, Kelce). We also swapped 2015 2nd's that both should be mid-late.
He has Ertz and unless I win the league his pick will be higher next year.That's a great trade for you. What was the other owner thinking? He must be a Geno and/or Housler hype fan.Gave: 2015 1st, Geno Smith, Housler
Got: 1.12, Greg Olsen
I needed a TE since all of mine are young (L.Green, Fleener, Kelce). We also swapped 2015 2nd's that both should be mid-late.
I think Housler is a throw away player and Geno Smith is a long shot. This draft appears, at the moment, to be one of the deeper drafts in recent memory. I still think you won this trade easily unless somehow Geno Smith becomes a stud. I think it's clear by now, Houlser is trash.He has Ertz and unless I win the league his pick will be higher next year.That's a great trade for you. What was the other owner thinking? He must be a Geno and/or Housler hype fan.Gave: 2015 1st, Geno Smith, Housler
Got: 1.12, Greg Olsen
I needed a TE since all of mine are young (L.Green, Fleener, Kelce). We also swapped 2015 2nd's that both should be mid-late.
That's the cheapest I've seen AJG go in quite awhile. I would've at least held out to get the 2015 1st back.10tm, PPR, Start 2-2-3-1 with 2 RB-WR-TE flexes.
AJ Green, S.Bailey, Todman
For
1.2, 1.3, 2.6
Note: Owner getting Green also owns the other team's 15 1st,2nd,3rd. Team getting the picks has Foles, Charles, Cobb, little else.
10 team this is Green by miles...even 2QBInteresting one, obviously Green but the team getting the picks can get Evans, the top RB and a good player at #16.10tm, PPR, Start 2-2-3-1 with 2 RB-WR-TE flexes.
AJ Green, S.Bailey, Todman
For
1.2, 1.3, 2.6
Note: Owner getting Green also owns the other team's 15 1st,2nd,3rd. Team getting the picks has Foles, Charles, Cobb, little else.
Yeah...think you did pretty well hereGave: 2015 1st, Geno Smith, Housler
Got: 1.12, Greg Olsen
I needed a TE since all of mine are young (L.Green, Fleener, Kelce). We also swapped 2015 2nd's that both should be mid-late.
Ha ha. Well, that player exists for all of us.I can't quit Housler.I think it's clear by now, Houlser is trash.
Green10tm, PPR, Start 2-2-3-1 with 2 RB-WR-TE flexes.
AJ Green, S.Bailey, Todman
For
1.2, 1.3, 2.6
Note: Owner getting Green also owns the other team's 15 1st,2nd,3rd. Team getting the picks has Foles, Charles, Cobb, little else.
Getting a 2nd for Amendola seems really good at this point. Would love that return in a couple leagues I own him in.12 team PPR dynasty league.
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, 2FLEX, D/ST, K
All same league. And Team A is same in all 3. Team B same in 2
All picks are rookie / FA picks
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1st trade:
Team A receives: 1.07 / 1.08 / Chris Polk / Rob Housler
Team B receives: CJ Spiller / Pierre Thomas (Ingram owner)
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2nd trade:
Team A receives: Alfred Morris / 2.07 / 3.07
Team C receives: Golden Tate / 1.08
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3rd trade
Team A receives: Chris Ivory /Andre Roberts/ '15 2nd (Team B)
Team B receives: Danny Amendola
Ooof. Morris side by a large margin IMO14 team PPR w/ superflex
Gave: Alf Morris
for: Mike Wallace and 2.06
(Not great value, but I'm down on Morris and have now traded him in every league I owned him. 4th Morris trade this offseason.)
why are you down on Morris??14 team PPR w/ superflex
Gave: Alf Morris
for: Mike Wallace and 2.06
(Not great value, but I'm down on Morris and have now traded him in every league I owned him. 4th Morris trade this offseason.)
Every pundit I have heard has said he his the best rated WR prospect since AJG and Julio.
10 team, can start 5 WRs? Easily Green.10 team this is Green by miles...even 2QBInteresting one, obviously Green but the team getting the picks can get Evans, the top RB and a good player at #16.10tm, PPR, Start 2-2-3-1 with 2 RB-WR-TE flexes.
AJ Green, S.Bailey, Todman
For
1.2, 1.3, 2.6
Note: Owner getting Green also owns the other team's 15 1st,2nd,3rd. Team getting the picks has Foles, Charles, Cobb, little else.