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Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Great point on the B10 champ. I hadn't even considered that one.Only problem with your bolded is that you can't have more than two teams from one conference in a BCS bowl, unless somehow two teams from the same conference are in the title game and neither is the league champion (as improbable as that seems).They also could finish ahead of the B10 champ. With OSU eliminated, that's definitely possible.The only teams worried about them are the SEC/P12 and maybe Oklahoma. I see virtually 0 chance any other conference sends a non-champ to the BCS so those teams that aren't champs are the ones in danger of losing out to Boise/Ohio.'Dickie Dunn said:Have to keep an eye on Boise State and Ohio, as well. Not for the championship game, but potentially to crash a BCS bowl.All one needs to do is finish in the top 16 and ahead of at least one of the champions of an AQ conference. Boise currently is No. 21, Ohio 24. Their best bet, obviously, is that the eventual BE champion fades or a team like Cincy still manages to win the league. Less likely is that a team other than Florida State wins the ACC -- certainly possibly, since NC State would be in good shape to win its division if it beats Clemson.'cheese said:Has very little to do with them and everything to do with what happens around them. If they get enough help, they could be in the title game. If all the big schools keep this up, probably pushed all the way to Orange who has the last BCS pick (especially Rutgers). The only way the Sugar/Fiesta happen is if a school like Boise makes it that they want even less.What happens if Rutgers or Louisville run the table?
Fiesta Bowl?
Ohio has some interesting chances to gain some exposure coming up. After facing Miami (Ohio) on Saturday, their next three games all would be mid-week TV games on either ESPN2 or ESPNU.
10 spots, 6 champs, probably ND, 2nd best SEC team, 2nd best P12 team, Boise/Ohio would take the place of SEC#3 (LSU/SCar?) or P12#3 (Oregon St/USC?). I could also see a 2 loss Oklahoma as the swing team. Kansas St needs 2 losses to not be the champ as far as I know so they're basically Fiesta Bowl or bust.
So assuming you have your six AQ champs and a non-AQ, you potentially would be looking at SEC #2, B12 #2, P12 #2 and ND for the final three spots.
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cheese
Footballguy
Good point. I had forgotten about the 2 team limit. The B12 #2 then becomes the likely team affected by the Boise/Ohio scenerio unless ND completely derails.Great point on the B10 champ. I hadn't even considered that one.Only problem with your bolded is that you can't have more than two teams from one conference in a BCS bowl, unless somehow two teams from the same conference are in the title game and neither is the league champion (as improbable as that seems).They also could finish ahead of the B10 champ. With OSU eliminated, that's definitely possible.The only teams worried about them are the SEC/P12 and maybe Oklahoma. I see virtually 0 chance any other conference sends a non-champ to the BCS so those teams that aren't champs are the ones in danger of losing out to Boise/Ohio.'Dickie Dunn said:Have to keep an eye on Boise State and Ohio, as well. Not for the championship game, but potentially to crash a BCS bowl.All one needs to do is finish in the top 16 and ahead of at least one of the champions of an AQ conference. Boise currently is No. 21, Ohio 24. Their best bet, obviously, is that the eventual BE champion fades or a team like Cincy still manages to win the league. Less likely is that a team other than Florida State wins the ACC -- certainly possibly, since NC State would be in good shape to win its division if it beats Clemson.'cheese said:Has very little to do with them and everything to do with what happens around them. If they get enough help, they could be in the title game. If all the big schools keep this up, probably pushed all the way to Orange who has the last BCS pick (especially Rutgers). The only way the Sugar/Fiesta happen is if a school like Boise makes it that they want even less.What happens if Rutgers or Louisville run the table?
Fiesta Bowl?
Ohio has some interesting chances to gain some exposure coming up. After facing Miami (Ohio) on Saturday, their next three games all would be mid-week TV games on either ESPN2 or ESPNU.
10 spots, 6 champs, probably ND, 2nd best SEC team, 2nd best P12 team, Boise/Ohio would take the place of SEC#3 (LSU/SCar?) or P12#3 (Oregon St/USC?). I could also see a 2 loss Oklahoma as the swing team. Kansas St needs 2 losses to not be the champ as far as I know so they're basically Fiesta Bowl or bust.
So assuming you have your six AQ champs and a non-AQ, you potentially would be looking at SEC #2, B12 #2, P12 #2 and ND for the final three spots.
General Malaise
Footballguy
ODDS TO WIN THE BCS - 10/22/12
Alabama +120
Kansas State +400
Oregon +450
Florida +800
USC +900
LSU +1000
OU +1200
Notre Dame +1500
Florida State +3000
Field +4000
Boy, I'm mildly tempted to take OU +1200....that's pretty enticing. Could happen, right? Beat KSU in the rematch and hope USC beats Oregon then loses to the Ducks in the PAC-12 Championship Game? I think OU has the best chance of anybody else to beat Bama. Yes, better than my Ducks, there I said it.
Alabama +120
Kansas State +400
Oregon +450
Florida +800
USC +900
LSU +1000
OU +1200
Notre Dame +1500
Florida State +3000
Field +4000
Boy, I'm mildly tempted to take OU +1200....that's pretty enticing. Could happen, right? Beat KSU in the rematch and hope USC beats Oregon then loses to the Ducks in the PAC-12 Championship Game? I think OU has the best chance of anybody else to beat Bama. Yes, better than my Ducks, there I said it.
jurb26
Footballguy
Florida at +800 ia best value.
cheese
Footballguy
No such thing this year. I agree with you though that OU is the best value there.Also, Notre Dame beating USC would be even better for OU and mean that USC could win either or both Oregon game and it would be fine for OU.
The Commish
Footballguy
This was my initial thought as well.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
That would require them winning a BCS game.
prefontaine
Footballguy
Don't really think OU is good value at all. This has nothing to do with the quality of the team but of the realities of their situation. They need to win out obviously. They likely need KSU to lose this weekend and Texas Tech winning out to win the Big 12. Otherwise, voters are going to hold it against them that they didn't win their conference, that the team that won their conference beat them on their home field, and that team has the same record. Computers will help some but KSU will get huge credit for that win and probably be tough to pass even with a later loss.
They'll never pass a 1-loss SEC champ so that means they would also need Oregon and Oregon State to lose at least one game and even then that might not be enough if it's a loss at USC and then a win vs USC later.
So I see their odds of even getting into the title game are very slim which makes them a pretty poor bet.
prefontaine
Footballguy
ahh, just realized GM's mistake. The Big 12 only has 10 teams and it is a round robin format. There is no championship game so OU has no shot at redemption vs KSU.
prefontaine
Footballguy
think this really depends on who #2 is. They don't have to pick in order or anything so they pick who is most likely to sell tickets and draw ratings. If it's KSU or Tech, well, yeah, they probably get squeezed. If it's Oklahoma, they may jump the #2 Pac. If you are the Sugar Bowl and have the option of taking Oregon State or Oklahoma, who do you take? It's also why if Notre Dame qualifies, they will definitely be selected.Good point. I had forgotten about the 2 team limit. The B12 #2 then becomes the likely team affected by the Boise/Ohio scenerio unless ND completely derails.Great point on the B10 champ. I hadn't even considered that one.Only problem with your bolded is that you can't have more than two teams from one conference in a BCS bowl, unless somehow two teams from the same conference are in the title game and neither is the league champion (as improbable as that seems).They also could finish ahead of the B10 champ. With OSU eliminated, that's definitely possible.The only teams worried about them are the SEC/P12 and maybe Oklahoma. I see virtually 0 chance any other conference sends a non-champ to the BCS so those teams that aren't champs are the ones in danger of losing out to Boise/Ohio.Have to keep an eye on Boise State and Ohio, as well. Not for the championship game, but potentially to crash a BCS bowl.All one needs to do is finish in the top 16 and ahead of at least one of the champions of an AQ conference. Boise currently is No. 21, Ohio 24. Their best bet, obviously, is that the eventual BE champion fades or a team like Cincy still manages to win the league. Less likely is that a team other than Florida State wins the ACC -- certainly possibly, since NC State would be in good shape to win its division if it beats Clemson.Has very little to do with them and everything to do with what happens around them. If they get enough help, they could be in the title game. If all the big schools keep this up, probably pushed all the way to Orange who has the last BCS pick (especially Rutgers). The only way the Sugar/Fiesta happen is if a school like Boise makes it that they want even less.What happens if Rutgers or Louisville run the table?
Fiesta Bowl?
Ohio has some interesting chances to gain some exposure coming up. After facing Miami (Ohio) on Saturday, their next three games all would be mid-week TV games on either ESPN2 or ESPNU.
10 spots, 6 champs, probably ND, 2nd best SEC team, 2nd best P12 team, Boise/Ohio would take the place of SEC#3 (LSU/SCar?) or P12#3 (Oregon St/USC?). I could also see a 2 loss Oklahoma as the swing team. Kansas St needs 2 losses to not be the champ as far as I know so they're basically Fiesta Bowl or bust.
So assuming you have your six AQ champs and a non-AQ, you potentially would be looking at SEC #2, B12 #2, P12 #2 and ND for the final three spots.
cheese
Footballguy
For the exact reason you're giving, their is a VERY little chance the 2nd PAC choice would be Oregon St. It would take USC losing at least 2 more games and Oregon winning out. Otherwise, Oregon St is Rose Bowl or bust because they would rather have USC/Oregon than all but the most extreme scenerio. If you're the Sugar Bowl and you have the option of USC/Oregon or Oklahoma/Kansas St it looks a lot different. I never argued that it's impossible though. Certainly, there is a scenerio where Oregon beats Oregon St and hands USC 2 more losses and Kansas St goes undefeated and Oklahoma wins out and Boise/Ohio win out and they finish top 16 and they finish above a BCS champ.... where only 1 PAC goes. But my head just exploded typing all the criteria it would take.think this really depends on who #2 is. They don't have to pick in order or anything so they pick who is most likely to sell tickets and draw ratings. If it's KSU or Tech, well, yeah, they probably get squeezed. If it's Oklahoma, they may jump the #2 Pac. If you are the Sugar Bowl and have the option of taking Oregon State or Oklahoma, who do you take? It's also why if Notre Dame qualifies, they will definitely be selected.Good point. I had forgotten about the 2 team limit. The B12 #2 then becomes the likely team affected by the Boise/Ohio scenerio unless ND completely derails.Great point on the B10 champ. I hadn't even considered that one.Only problem with your bolded is that you can't have more than two teams from one conference in a BCS bowl, unless somehow two teams from the same conference are in the title game and neither is the league champion (as improbable as that seems).They also could finish ahead of the B10 champ. With OSU eliminated, that's definitely possible.The only teams worried about them are the SEC/P12 and maybe Oklahoma. I see virtually 0 chance any other conference sends a non-champ to the BCS so those teams that aren't champs are the ones in danger of losing out to Boise/Ohio.Have to keep an eye on Boise State and Ohio, as well. Not for the championship game, but potentially to crash a BCS bowl.All one needs to do is finish in the top 16 and ahead of at least one of the champions of an AQ conference. Boise currently is No. 21, Ohio 24. Their best bet, obviously, is that the eventual BE champion fades or a team like Cincy still manages to win the league. Less likely is that a team other than Florida State wins the ACC -- certainly possibly, since NC State would be in good shape to win its division if it beats Clemson.Has very little to do with them and everything to do with what happens around them. If they get enough help, they could be in the title game. If all the big schools keep this up, probably pushed all the way to Orange who has the last BCS pick (especially Rutgers). The only way the Sugar/Fiesta happen is if a school like Boise makes it that they want even less.What happens if Rutgers or Louisville run the table?
Fiesta Bowl?
Ohio has some interesting chances to gain some exposure coming up. After facing Miami (Ohio) on Saturday, their next three games all would be mid-week TV games on either ESPN2 or ESPNU.
10 spots, 6 champs, probably ND, 2nd best SEC team, 2nd best P12 team, Boise/Ohio would take the place of SEC#3 (LSU/SCar?) or P12#3 (Oregon St/USC?). I could also see a 2 loss Oklahoma as the swing team. Kansas St needs 2 losses to not be the champ as far as I know so they're basically Fiesta Bowl or bust.
So assuming you have your six AQ champs and a non-AQ, you potentially would be looking at SEC #2, B12 #2, P12 #2 and ND for the final three spots.
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cheese
Footballguy
I think there is a big difference between a team only splitting a conf championship and actually losing it entirely. In the case where KST finishes 11-1, do they even use tiebreakers for anything? They just give both teams a trophy right?
Moe.
Footballguy
If two teams are tied then h2h is the tiebreaker. If three teams are tied and the top two teams are within one spot of each other in the final standings then h2h between those two teams is used. If the top two are not within one sport of one another it's simply the team ranked the highest.
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Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
A couple of other things to consider:
-- Any at-large team has to be in the top 14 of the final rankings.
-- Nos. 3-4 in the final standings, if not conference champs, are automatic at-larges as long as there isn't an at-large from the same conference in the title game (in essence, a "3rd" team from the conference, since there also would be a champion somewhere else in the picture).
Let's assume, just for conversation, that Alabama and Oregon finish 1-2, respectively. Meanwhile, K-State wins the Big 12.
Here is what we have:
Championship: Alabama vs. Oregon
Orange: ACC champ vs. ???
Fiesta: Kansas State vs. ???
Rose: Big 10 champ vs. ???
Sugar: (open)
The Sugar Bowl get the first choice, and you would have to assume would take the No. 2 team from the SEC (Florida or LSU?). Then the Rose Bowl gets the next pick. Is it safe to assume it would take the No. 2 team from the Pac-12 to keep the tradition?
That leaves the Fiesta-Sugar-Orange (in that order, 2013 rotation) to choose among the BE champ, B12 #2, ND and potentially a Boise/Ohio. So yes, it is possible that the Big 12 #2 gets screwed in this scenario, since ND would be a no-brainer choice for the Fiesta (they wouldn't pit another Big 12 against K-State) and the other two would have to be automatics.
Now, what if it is K-State at No. 2 instead of Oregon? Obviously, Oregon then goes to the Rose Bowl and then the Fiesta gets the second pick of teams. So essentially the Fiesta would get the next two picks, since it also has the first pick after choosing its championship replacement. So it could grab ND and then the second Big 12 team, leaving the Pac-12 #2 out in the cold.
Obviously still a lot left to be decided. And for the record, since I championed a 16-team playoff last year, I still believe there is plenty of room for these sort of debates when you are looking at only five potential at-large spots (which right now could be Florida, LSU, ND, Oklahoma and USC/Oregon State -- not bad).
-- Any at-large team has to be in the top 14 of the final rankings.
-- Nos. 3-4 in the final standings, if not conference champs, are automatic at-larges as long as there isn't an at-large from the same conference in the title game (in essence, a "3rd" team from the conference, since there also would be a champion somewhere else in the picture).
Let's assume, just for conversation, that Alabama and Oregon finish 1-2, respectively. Meanwhile, K-State wins the Big 12.
Here is what we have:
Championship: Alabama vs. Oregon
Orange: ACC champ vs. ???
Fiesta: Kansas State vs. ???
Rose: Big 10 champ vs. ???
Sugar: (open)
The Sugar Bowl get the first choice, and you would have to assume would take the No. 2 team from the SEC (Florida or LSU?). Then the Rose Bowl gets the next pick. Is it safe to assume it would take the No. 2 team from the Pac-12 to keep the tradition?
That leaves the Fiesta-Sugar-Orange (in that order, 2013 rotation) to choose among the BE champ, B12 #2, ND and potentially a Boise/Ohio. So yes, it is possible that the Big 12 #2 gets screwed in this scenario, since ND would be a no-brainer choice for the Fiesta (they wouldn't pit another Big 12 against K-State) and the other two would have to be automatics.
Now, what if it is K-State at No. 2 instead of Oregon? Obviously, Oregon then goes to the Rose Bowl and then the Fiesta gets the second pick of teams. So essentially the Fiesta would get the next two picks, since it also has the first pick after choosing its championship replacement. So it could grab ND and then the second Big 12 team, leaving the Pac-12 #2 out in the cold.
Obviously still a lot left to be decided. And for the record, since I championed a 16-team playoff last year, I still believe there is plenty of room for these sort of debates when you are looking at only five potential at-large spots (which right now could be Florida, LSU, ND, Oklahoma and USC/Oregon State -- not bad).
General Malaise
Footballguy
Bah, I didn't know that. Glad I didn't bet it.
I did throw a C-Note on my Ducks, but I'm biased. I think they will win out and face Bama, though I'm concerned about KSU standing in their way. Much better SOS and the wins on the road at OU and WVU (who is a fraud) resonate more than anything Oregon has done or perhaps will do, unless USC and OSU win out and the Ducks beat them.
prefontaine
Footballguy
In a scenario where both KSU and OU end 11-1, there is going to be a certain contingent of voters that will vote OU below KSU because KSU went into Norman and won. The computers will also likely put KSU ahead of OU. However, OU's cache and the fact that they lost earlier will keep it pretty close imo which is actually bad for the Big 12 as a whole....they will be splitting the vote. Each conference is best off having one obvious choice. For instance if there is a clear cut 1-loss Pac champ, they probably stay ahead of both OU and KSU because of this vote splitting. So no matter if OU is the best team in the country, they aren't well set up to get to the title game which imo makes them a very bad bet.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I would think absolutely, especially if you have an Oregon State team with only 1 loss (to Oregon, though we are really putting the cart before the horse here).
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Since I did this exercise last year, it's time to break out my bracket for a mythical 16-team playoff.
This doesn't make any assumptions for what can happen down the road, only things as they currently stand today. Current conference leaders are considered to be "champions", and tiebreaker is BCS standing and then Sagarin.
1. Alabama (at-large)
16. Tulsa (C-USA)
8. Oklahoma (at-large)
9. Florida State (ACC)
4. Oregon (P-12)
13. Utah State (WAC)
5. Notre Dame (at-large)
12. Michigan (B10)
2. Florida (SEC)
15. La.-Monroe (SB)
7. Oregon State (at-large)
10. Rutgers (BE)
3. Kansas State (B-12)
14. N. Illinois (MAC*)
6. LSU (at-large)
11. Boise State (MW)
Outside: No. 9 USC, No. 10 Georgia; No. 11 Mississippi State
(* Northern Illinois top MAC team in Sagarin in three-way tie with Toledo and Kent State; teams 13-16 seeded by Sagarin).
This doesn't make any assumptions for what can happen down the road, only things as they currently stand today. Current conference leaders are considered to be "champions", and tiebreaker is BCS standing and then Sagarin.
1. Alabama (at-large)
16. Tulsa (C-USA)
8. Oklahoma (at-large)
9. Florida State (ACC)
4. Oregon (P-12)
13. Utah State (WAC)
5. Notre Dame (at-large)
12. Michigan (B10)
2. Florida (SEC)
15. La.-Monroe (SB)
7. Oregon State (at-large)
10. Rutgers (BE)
3. Kansas State (B-12)
14. N. Illinois (MAC*)
6. LSU (at-large)
11. Boise State (MW)
Outside: No. 9 USC, No. 10 Georgia; No. 11 Mississippi State
(* Northern Illinois top MAC team in Sagarin in three-way tie with Toledo and Kent State; teams 13-16 seeded by Sagarin).
prefontaine
Footballguy
this is good analysis. I didn't want to have to look up the order of picks
In this scenario I think the Fiesta could pass on the Big 12 if it's not OU or UT. None of the rest have enough marketability. There's no RG3 or underdog story or anything. This isn't the Rose Bowl and the Fiesta has no need to keep the Big 12 happy at this point (they got shafted by the Champions setup). Notre Dame is a no-brainer and if the Fiesta has the first pick, they have to go there. The second pick though would be totally up in the air.
prefontaine
Footballguy
CUSA - think UCF wins this year but Tulsa is doing well right now and they get UCF at homeWAC - La Tech will go undefeated. Believe they are also higher in BCS (though not in top 25)MAC - Ohio is #24 in the BCS which I thought was your first tiebreak
General Malaise
Footballguy
I really wish the Rose Bowl would tell the Big 10 to eat crank this year. There is no deserving team. None. Just tell them to f off.
Moe.
Footballguy
I agree, I was just responding to cheese's question about tiebreakers. I think that KState is going to win the conference outright anyways. If OU wins out that KState game will end up being one of the more painful losses of the Stoops era.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Should have been a little more clear. I actually was using current conference standings ... Ohio at 3-0 is a half-game behind Northern Illinois, Toledo and Kent State. So I was using BCS and Sagarin as tiebreakers for conference standings. Utah State is 2-0 in the WAC right now while La. Tech (and Texas State, which I believe is ineligible as an FBS transition team) is 1-0.
Maybe. But I think that loss was the catalyst for what's happened since then. I don't think we would have seen the results we've seen had OU pulled out the KSU game and it's likely they would have dropped another one somewhere down the line. There's been a definite attitude adjustment with the players. And that's a good thing.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Not that it changes any of the scenarios, but I wonder if the Sugar would be married to grabbing the second SEC team with Notre Dame floating out there. It wouldn't matter in the big picture, because I assume the Fiesta would grab the other one either way.this is good analysis. I didn't want to have to look up the order of picks
GeauxTigers
Footballguy
GeauxTigers
Footballguy
This week's college football TV schedule. Best/Important games bolded.
Tuesday, October 23rd
Arkansas State at Louisiana Lafayette 7:00 p.m. ESPN2 (HD) / espn3 *9
Thursday, October 25th
Clemson at Wake Forest 6:30 p.m. ESPN (HD) / espn3 *9
Delaware State at Morgan State 6:30 p.m. ESPNU (HD) / espn3 *9
DII: Valdosta State at Shorter 6:30 p.m. CSS (cable) / espn3
Friday, October 26th
Cincinnati at Louisville 7:00 p.m. ESPN2 (HD) / espn3 *9
Nevada at Air Force 7:00 p.m. CBSSN (HD)
Saturday, October 27th
Ball State at Army 11:00 a.m. CBSSN (HD)
Oyster Bowl: Delaware at Old Dominion 11:00 a.m. NBCSN (HD)
Indiana at Illinois 11:00 a.m. BTN (HD) / btn2go
Iowa at Northwestern 11:00 a.m. ESPN2 (HD) / espn3 *9
Kentucky at Missouri 11:00 a.m. ESPNU (HD) / espn3 *9
Northern Illinois at Western Michigan 11:00 a.m. ESPN-GP / ERTV (cable) / espn3
Temple at Pittsburgh 11:00 a.m. SNY / MASN / CSCA / ESPN-GP / ERTV / espn3
Texas at Kansas 11:00 a.m. FSN Affiliates (HD) / FCSC (cable)
Tennessee at South Carolina 11:00 a.m. ESPN (HD) (3D) / espn3 *9
Ole Miss at Arkansas 11:21 a.m. SEC Network *4 / ESPN-GP / espn3
North Carolina State at North Carolina 11:30 a.m. (ESPN-GP / espn3) *2 / ACC Network (HD) *3
Yale at Columbia 11:30 a.m. YES
Southern Miss at Rice 12:00 p.m. (CSNC / CSBA) *5 / CSS (cable)
BYU at Georgia Tech 2:00 p.m. (FSN Affiliates (HD) / ESPN-GP / espn3) *5
Colorado at Oregon 2:00 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
UCLA at Arizona State 2:00 p.m. FX (HD)
Youngstown State at South Dakota State 2:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / WFMJ (cable) / espn3
Boise State at Wyoming 2:30 p.m. CBSSN (HD)
Duke at Florida State 2:30 p.m. ESPNU (HD)
Eastern Michigan at Bowling Green 2:30 p.m. ESPN-GP / espn3 / BCSN
Florida vs. Georgia 2:30 p.m. CBS (HD) / cbssports.com
Fresno State at New Mexico 2:30 p.m. CSCA *5 / (Comcast / TW) (cable)
Idaho State at Montana 2:30 p.m. RSPI / RSRM / RSNW / DirecTV: 239-1
Kent State at Rutgers 2:30 p.m. SNY / MASN / ESPN-GP / ERTV / espn3
Liberty at Coastal Carolina 2:30 p.m. ESPN-GP / Flames Sports (cable) / espn3
Ohio at Miami Ohio 2:30 p.m. (ESPN-GP / STO) *2 / ERTV (cable) / espn3
Purdue at Minnesota 2:30 p.m. BTN (HD) / btn2go
Michigan State at Wisconsin 2:30 p.m. (ABC (HD) / ESPN2 (HD)) *7
TCU at Oklahoma State 2:30 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD)
Texas Tech at Kansas State 2:30 p.m. FOX (HD)
Towson at Villanova 2:30 p.m. CSMA / TCN (cable)
USC at Arizona 2:30 p.m. (ABC (HD) / ESPN2 (HD)) *7
Sam Houston State at Lamar 3:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / SLCTV (cable / Video) / espn3
UTEP at Houston 3:30 p.m. CSBA *5 / CSS (cable)
Harvard at Dartmouth 4:00 p.m. CSNE
Illinois State at Northern Iowa 4:00 p.m. CSNC *5 / Mediacom (cable) / espn3
Ohio State at Penn State 4:30 p.m. ESPN (HD) / espn3
Washington State at Stanford 5:15 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Baylor at Iowa State 6:00 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD)
Hawaii at Colorado State 6:00 p.m. RSRM / KTVD (cable)
Texas A&M at Auburn 6:00 p.m. ESPNU (HD)
UMass at Vanderbilt 6:00 p.m. FS South (HD) / ESPN-GP / espn3
Louisiana Tech at New Mexico State 7:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / AggieVision / Comcast / espn3
Michigan at Nebraska 7:00 p.m. ESPN2 (HD)
Notre Dame at Oklahoma 7:00 p.m. ABC (HD)
Stephen F. Austin at McNeese State 7:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / SLCTV (cable / Video) / espn3
UCF at Marshall 7:00 p.m. CBSSN (HD)
DII: West Texas A&M at West Georgia 7:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / CSS (cable) / espn3
Mississippi State at Alabama 7:30 p.m. ESPN (HD)
California at Utah 8:45 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Oregon State at Washington 9:15 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Games online only or not yet scheduled for nationally available networks.
Akron at Central Michigan 2:30 p.m. TBA
Alabama A&M vs. Alabama State 2:30 p.m. espn3
Albany at Sacred Heart 12:00 p.m. NEC Front Row
Citadel at Wofford 12:30 p.m. espn3
Cal Poly at Sacramento State 7:00 p.m. Big Sky
Eastern Illinois at Eastern Kentucky 11:00 a.m. FCSA (cable)
Eastern Washington at Southern Utah 2:00 p.m. Big Sky
Fordham at Holy Cross 12:00 p.m. Charter TV3 (cable)
Furman at Elon 2:00 p.m. Video
Georgetown at Lafayette 5:00 p.m. LSN (cable)
Grambling at Texas Southern 4:00 p.m. KHOU (cable)
Maryland at Boston College 12:00 p.m. espn3
Memphis at SMU 2:00 p.m. TWC (cable)
Murray State at Jacksonville State 3:00 p.m. OVC
Navy at East Carolina 2:30 p.m. FCSA (cable)
North Dakota at Montana State 3:00 p.m. Max Media (cable) / Big Sky
North Texas at Middle Tennessee 2:30 p.m. espn3
Northern Arizona at Northern Colorado 2:30 p.m. Big Sky
Princeton at Cornell 11:30 a.m. TWC (cable)
Robert Morris at Wagner 12:00 p.m. NEC Front Row
Saint Francis (PA) at CCSU 11:00 a.m. NEC Front Row
South Alabama at Louisiana Monroe 6:00 p.m. Cox4 (cable) / espn3
South Dakota at Indiana State 1:00 p.m. espn3
Southeast Missouri at Austin Peay 4:00 p.m. OVC
Southern Illinois at North Dakota State 2:30 p.m. (ND NBC / FCSC) (cable)
Stony Brook at Presbyterian 12:00 p.m. espn3
Syracuse at South Florida 6:00 p.m. espn3
Tennessee Tech at Tennessee State 5:00 p.m. OVC
Texas State at San Jose State 3:00 p.m. TBA
Toledo at Buffalo 2:30 p.m. TWCS (cable)
Troy at Florida Atlantic TBA TBA
UAB at Tulane 2:30 p.m. TBA
UNLV at San Diego State 7:00 p.m. TW (cable)
Utah State at UTSA 1:00 p.m. espn3
UNLV at San Diego State 7:00 p.m. TW (cable)
Western Kentucky at Florida International 5:00 p.m. espn3
Tuesday, October 23rd
Arkansas State at Louisiana Lafayette 7:00 p.m. ESPN2 (HD) / espn3 *9
Thursday, October 25th
Clemson at Wake Forest 6:30 p.m. ESPN (HD) / espn3 *9
Delaware State at Morgan State 6:30 p.m. ESPNU (HD) / espn3 *9
DII: Valdosta State at Shorter 6:30 p.m. CSS (cable) / espn3
Friday, October 26th
Cincinnati at Louisville 7:00 p.m. ESPN2 (HD) / espn3 *9
Nevada at Air Force 7:00 p.m. CBSSN (HD)
Saturday, October 27th
Ball State at Army 11:00 a.m. CBSSN (HD)
Oyster Bowl: Delaware at Old Dominion 11:00 a.m. NBCSN (HD)
Indiana at Illinois 11:00 a.m. BTN (HD) / btn2go
Iowa at Northwestern 11:00 a.m. ESPN2 (HD) / espn3 *9
Kentucky at Missouri 11:00 a.m. ESPNU (HD) / espn3 *9
Northern Illinois at Western Michigan 11:00 a.m. ESPN-GP / ERTV (cable) / espn3
Temple at Pittsburgh 11:00 a.m. SNY / MASN / CSCA / ESPN-GP / ERTV / espn3
Texas at Kansas 11:00 a.m. FSN Affiliates (HD) / FCSC (cable)
Tennessee at South Carolina 11:00 a.m. ESPN (HD) (3D) / espn3 *9
Ole Miss at Arkansas 11:21 a.m. SEC Network *4 / ESPN-GP / espn3
North Carolina State at North Carolina 11:30 a.m. (ESPN-GP / espn3) *2 / ACC Network (HD) *3
Yale at Columbia 11:30 a.m. YES
Southern Miss at Rice 12:00 p.m. (CSNC / CSBA) *5 / CSS (cable)
BYU at Georgia Tech 2:00 p.m. (FSN Affiliates (HD) / ESPN-GP / espn3) *5
Colorado at Oregon 2:00 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
UCLA at Arizona State 2:00 p.m. FX (HD)
Youngstown State at South Dakota State 2:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / WFMJ (cable) / espn3
Boise State at Wyoming 2:30 p.m. CBSSN (HD)
Duke at Florida State 2:30 p.m. ESPNU (HD)
Eastern Michigan at Bowling Green 2:30 p.m. ESPN-GP / espn3 / BCSN
Florida vs. Georgia 2:30 p.m. CBS (HD) / cbssports.com
Fresno State at New Mexico 2:30 p.m. CSCA *5 / (Comcast / TW) (cable)
Idaho State at Montana 2:30 p.m. RSPI / RSRM / RSNW / DirecTV: 239-1
Kent State at Rutgers 2:30 p.m. SNY / MASN / ESPN-GP / ERTV / espn3
Liberty at Coastal Carolina 2:30 p.m. ESPN-GP / Flames Sports (cable) / espn3
Ohio at Miami Ohio 2:30 p.m. (ESPN-GP / STO) *2 / ERTV (cable) / espn3
Purdue at Minnesota 2:30 p.m. BTN (HD) / btn2go
Michigan State at Wisconsin 2:30 p.m. (ABC (HD) / ESPN2 (HD)) *7
TCU at Oklahoma State 2:30 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD)
Texas Tech at Kansas State 2:30 p.m. FOX (HD)
Towson at Villanova 2:30 p.m. CSMA / TCN (cable)
USC at Arizona 2:30 p.m. (ABC (HD) / ESPN2 (HD)) *7
Sam Houston State at Lamar 3:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / SLCTV (cable / Video) / espn3
UTEP at Houston 3:30 p.m. CSBA *5 / CSS (cable)
Harvard at Dartmouth 4:00 p.m. CSNE
Illinois State at Northern Iowa 4:00 p.m. CSNC *5 / Mediacom (cable) / espn3
Ohio State at Penn State 4:30 p.m. ESPN (HD) / espn3
Washington State at Stanford 5:15 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Baylor at Iowa State 6:00 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD)
Hawaii at Colorado State 6:00 p.m. RSRM / KTVD (cable)
Texas A&M at Auburn 6:00 p.m. ESPNU (HD)
UMass at Vanderbilt 6:00 p.m. FS South (HD) / ESPN-GP / espn3
Louisiana Tech at New Mexico State 7:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / AggieVision / Comcast / espn3
Michigan at Nebraska 7:00 p.m. ESPN2 (HD)
Notre Dame at Oklahoma 7:00 p.m. ABC (HD)
Stephen F. Austin at McNeese State 7:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / SLCTV (cable / Video) / espn3
UCF at Marshall 7:00 p.m. CBSSN (HD)
DII: West Texas A&M at West Georgia 7:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / CSS (cable) / espn3
Mississippi State at Alabama 7:30 p.m. ESPN (HD)
California at Utah 8:45 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Oregon State at Washington 9:15 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Games online only or not yet scheduled for nationally available networks.
Akron at Central Michigan 2:30 p.m. TBA
Alabama A&M vs. Alabama State 2:30 p.m. espn3
Albany at Sacred Heart 12:00 p.m. NEC Front Row
Citadel at Wofford 12:30 p.m. espn3
Cal Poly at Sacramento State 7:00 p.m. Big Sky
Eastern Illinois at Eastern Kentucky 11:00 a.m. FCSA (cable)
Eastern Washington at Southern Utah 2:00 p.m. Big Sky
Fordham at Holy Cross 12:00 p.m. Charter TV3 (cable)
Furman at Elon 2:00 p.m. Video
Georgetown at Lafayette 5:00 p.m. LSN (cable)
Grambling at Texas Southern 4:00 p.m. KHOU (cable)
Maryland at Boston College 12:00 p.m. espn3
Memphis at SMU 2:00 p.m. TWC (cable)
Murray State at Jacksonville State 3:00 p.m. OVC
Navy at East Carolina 2:30 p.m. FCSA (cable)
North Dakota at Montana State 3:00 p.m. Max Media (cable) / Big Sky
North Texas at Middle Tennessee 2:30 p.m. espn3
Northern Arizona at Northern Colorado 2:30 p.m. Big Sky
Princeton at Cornell 11:30 a.m. TWC (cable)
Robert Morris at Wagner 12:00 p.m. NEC Front Row
Saint Francis (PA) at CCSU 11:00 a.m. NEC Front Row
South Alabama at Louisiana Monroe 6:00 p.m. Cox4 (cable) / espn3
South Dakota at Indiana State 1:00 p.m. espn3
Southeast Missouri at Austin Peay 4:00 p.m. OVC
Southern Illinois at North Dakota State 2:30 p.m. (ND NBC / FCSC) (cable)
Stony Brook at Presbyterian 12:00 p.m. espn3
Syracuse at South Florida 6:00 p.m. espn3
Tennessee Tech at Tennessee State 5:00 p.m. OVC
Texas State at San Jose State 3:00 p.m. TBA
Toledo at Buffalo 2:30 p.m. TWCS (cable)
Troy at Florida Atlantic TBA TBA
UAB at Tulane 2:30 p.m. TBA
UNLV at San Diego State 7:00 p.m. TW (cable)
Utah State at UTSA 1:00 p.m. espn3
UNLV at San Diego State 7:00 p.m. TW (cable)
Western Kentucky at Florida International 5:00 p.m. espn3
GeauxTigers
Footballguy
I think Baylor vs Texas was added to Miami/FSU.
GeauxTigers
Footballguy
Not surprised.
The Commish
Footballguy
They'd take whoever brought them the most money.Not that it changes any of the scenarios, but I wonder if the Sugar would be married to grabbing the second SEC team with Notre Dame floating out there. It wouldn't matter in the big picture, because I assume the Fiesta would grab the other one either way.this is good analysis. I didn't want to have to look up the order of picks
GeauxTigers
Footballguy
I don't see Auburn hiring Petrino this soon after his colossal break down.
GeauxTigers
Footballguy
GeauxTigers
Footballguy
No Big 12 championship game this year.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
True, because they're going to get stuck with a much weaker second team, relatively speaking, unless the Boise/Ohio scenario doesn't happen. If they can't grab a second B12/P-12 team (whichever is left) for the other spot, the key will be whichever team ends up winning the Big East.'The Commish said:They'd take whoever brought them the most money.'Dickie Dunn said:Not that it changes any of the scenarios, but I wonder if the Sugar would be married to grabbing the second SEC team with Notre Dame floating out there. It wouldn't matter in the big picture, because I assume the Fiesta would grab the other one either way.'prefontaine said:this is good analysis. I didn't want to have to look up the order of picks'Dickie Dunn said:
prefontaine
Footballguy
I don't know for sure, but they may not. They have a long standing relationship with the SEC. They (New Orleans) bid a lot for SEC events. Even if they thought Notre Dame might make them more money (and they might), I think they'd pick an SEC team first assuming it wasn't a massive different (and it shouldn't be as the options will likely be one of LSU, Bama, or UF). It's good long term business especially since Notre Dame is about to be locked into the Orange.'The Commish said:They'd take whoever brought them the most money.'Dickie Dunn said:Not that it changes any of the scenarios, but I wonder if the Sugar would be married to grabbing the second SEC team with Notre Dame floating out there. It wouldn't matter in the big picture, because I assume the Fiesta would grab the other one either way.'prefontaine said:this is good analysis. I didn't want to have to look up the order of picks'Dickie Dunn said:
The Commish
Footballguy
Auburn in hot water? I don't have a sub to rivals, but I was clicking and stumbled onto their boards...on the main board I saw this thread title:
Jordan Diamond, OL at Auburn admits to taking $50,000 to sign with Aubs
Jordan Diamond, OL at Auburn admits to taking $50,000 to sign with Aubs
Seems unpossible.
ATC1
Footballguy
All aranged by his dad without Jordan's knowledge. Non issue. Move on.
The Commish
Footballguy
I couldn't read the thread. I have no idea if it was a fishing trip or not. What I do know is Diamond had a short list of schools for a while, then at the end added Auburn. That's about all I know about him outside his comments regarding his visit to Michigan.
The guy who started the thread has been slamming Auburn for a few weeks on the main rivals board, changing his login name multiple times. It's on the Scout board as well now. No idea why the guy has such a hard on for Auburn.
shader
Footballguy
Because you guys bought Cam Newton and everyone in the entire college football world knows it and yet Auburn didn't even get a slap on the wrist? That might be the reason.
gump
Footballguy
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