*** 2013 Official Philadelphia Eagles Off Season Thread ***
#1
Posted 16 January 2013 - 09:45 AM
http://espn.go.com/n...-eagles-sources
"Your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them." - Obiwan Kenobi
"The cake is a lie." - Unknown Aperture Science Test Subject
And BTW..thanks to Insein...I am going to come to this thread as often as possible and cockpunch this show.
#2
Posted 16 January 2013 - 09:52 AM
Let the next chapter begin.
"There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
"If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want an education, go to the library."
-Frank Zappa
#3
Posted 16 January 2013 - 09:53 AM
-Ferris Bueller
#4
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:02 AM
I'm in. Very intrigued to see what this team will look like with Chip Kelly at the helm.
Student: What happened?
Cartman: They lost........
#5
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:04 AM
#6
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:07 AM
I think I can safely say that they will never punt from their own 40, down by 3, with less than 2:00 to go. Especially not in a playoff game.Very intrigued to see what this team will look like with Chip Kelly at the helm.
For that reason alone, I'm optimistic.
I don't know what the penalty is for fouling a ballhandler by taking a folding chair to the back of his head, but it's probably worth it.
#7
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:10 AM
#8
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:10 AM
http://www.bostonglo...rN6J/story.html
#9
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:13 AM
@JordanRaanan: As I said from beginning, Chip Kelly was #Eagles' No. 1 or 1a choice. Also, don't necessarily see him needing running QB as most suggest.
@willbrinson: Chip Kelly on Nick Foles in 2011: "Hell of a football player. That kid’s a warrior. He’s as good as anyone in the country.”
@SheilKapadia: Here's the story from @GregABedard about Kelly's influence on the Patriots' offense: http://t.co/ThQyskTc
#10
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:14 AM
What happens on defense?
Who's the QB?
#11
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:15 AM
#12
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:15 AM
Ok so what experienced NFL coach do they bring in to be DC?
PUHLEASE BE LOVIE!
#13
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:16 AM
Two questions seem paramount:
What happens on defense?
Who's the QB?
Some kind of autonomous Defensive coordinator and Nick Foles for this year at least.
"Your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them." - Obiwan Kenobi
"The cake is a lie." - Unknown Aperture Science Test Subject
And BTW..thanks to Insein...I am going to come to this thread as often as possible and cockpunch this show.
#14
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:18 AM
#15
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:21 AM
Here's Chip Kelly on his offense in the NFL: “There's a lot of ways to play football. Trends go one way and the other. … If you weren't in the room with Amos Alonzo Stagg and Knute Rockne when they invented this game, you stole it from somebody else.
“Any coach is going to learn from other people and see how they can implement it in their system. Anything you do has to be personnel driven. You have to adapt to the personnel you have. There's a lot of great offenses out there, but does it fit with the personnel you have? The key is making sure what you're doing is giving your people a chance to be successful.”
@espn_macmahon: RT @LanLocker: Chip Kelly's offense averaged 601 yards and 50 points per game against Monte Kiffin's Tampa 2 defense. (2-1 record)
@AlbertBreer: Big thing on Chip Kelly -- NFL's pursuit of him isn't about offensive scheme, it's about his ability to innovate, adapt and build a program.
Getting to know Chip Kelly
@JasonLaCanfora: Eagles and Kelly could not get together last time due to issues of power. Will be interesting to see if Kelly has final say in personnel
#16
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:24 AM
I'm excited.
I ain't workin' for no ###, I'll jerk off for free
Unnecessary quotation marks blog
#18
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:25 AM
#19
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:27 AM
Rob Ryan -- NOT AT ALL my choice, but he's not yet official in STL and would probably love a chance to stick it to the Boys
Lovie Smith -- The dream choice, but I doubt he'll take a DC job but instead sit out a year and do media until next year's HC options
Ray Horton -- If he doesn't get Cardinals HC job (and it appears he won't), I would love to have his aggressive style in Philly
Todd Grantham -- Eagles have already identified him as a possibility if we hired Bradley, so we have to keep him in mind
I'm sure there are a ton of capable defensive assistants out there, just not sure how plugged in Chip Kelly would be with those guys.
#20
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:27 AM
Names to watch for #Eagles DC: UGA's Todd Grantham, UF's Dan Quinn. Both schooled in stopping spread offenses, both with NFL experience
If they took Grantham, could make Jarvis Jones an interesting pick at #4 if he's there.
#21
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:30 AM
I want to admit that this thread is all about me me me, and I am being as narcissistic as I could possibly be.
It's timschochet, this is just what he does. He thinks his opinion is more important than others (though he would never admit this) so instead of continuing the conversation in the other thread he starts his own.
If you're misinformed on a subject, avoid posting. Please.
#22
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:30 AM
Potential defensive coordinator hires:
Rob Ryan -- NOT AT ALL my choice, but he's not yet official in STL and would probably love a chance to stick it to the Boys
Lovie Smith -- The dream choice, but I doubt he'll take a DC job but instead sit out a year and do media until next year's HC options
Ray Horton -- If he doesn't get Cardinals HC job (and it appears he won't), I would love to have his aggressive style in Philly
Todd Grantham -- Eagles have already identified him as a possibility if we hired Bradley, so we have to keep him in mind
I'm sure there are a ton of capable defensive assistants out there, just not sure how plugged in Chip Kelly would be with those guys.
I'm OK with Chip but I do NOT want an entire college staff if possible.
#23
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:31 AM
Another good read
http://www.footballperspective.com/chip-kelly-is-as-likely-to-be-the-next-great-coach-as-anyone-else/
This was REALLY GOOD
#24
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:31 AM
Wonder if this means Vick has a chance of returning now as the QB to run Kelly's style of offense.
I think it's important to remember that Kelly doesn't believe he has to have a mobile QB to succeed. If you look at the impact his scheme had in New England, it's a perfect illustration of that point.
In any event, it certainly raises the likelihood he could stay. I gave Vick a 0% chance of staying before the Kelly hire. Still below 50% though.
#25
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:33 AM
I agree, but Grantham was an NFL coach.
Potential defensive coordinator hires:
Rob Ryan -- NOT AT ALL my choice, but he's not yet official in STL and would probably love a chance to stick it to the Boys
Lovie Smith -- The dream choice, but I doubt he'll take a DC job but instead sit out a year and do media until next year's HC options
Ray Horton -- If he doesn't get Cardinals HC job (and it appears he won't), I would love to have his aggressive style in Philly
Todd Grantham -- Eagles have already identified him as a possibility if we hired Bradley, so we have to keep him in mind
I'm sure there are a ton of capable defensive assistants out there, just not sure how plugged in Chip Kelly would be with those guys.
I'm OK with Chip but I do NOT want an entire college staff if possible.
1999-2001 (Colts DL coach)
2002-2004 (Texans DL coach)
2005-2007 (Browns DC)
2008-2009 (Cowboys DL coach)
#26
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:34 AM
#27
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:36 AM
I agree, but Grantham was an NFL coach.
Potential defensive coordinator hires:
Rob Ryan -- NOT AT ALL my choice, but he's not yet official in STL and would probably love a chance to stick it to the Boys
Lovie Smith -- The dream choice, but I doubt he'll take a DC job but instead sit out a year and do media until next year's HC options
Ray Horton -- If he doesn't get Cardinals HC job (and it appears he won't), I would love to have his aggressive style in Philly
Todd Grantham -- Eagles have already identified him as a possibility if we hired Bradley, so we have to keep him in mind
I'm sure there are a ton of capable defensive assistants out there, just not sure how plugged in Chip Kelly would be with those guys.
I'm OK with Chip but I do NOT want an entire college staff if possible.
1999-2001 (Colts DL coach)
2002-2004 (Texans DL coach)
2005-2007 (Browns DC)
2008-2009 (Cowboys DL coach)
Then I stand corrected. I never knew that and wouldnt mind him since he has some experiance.
#28
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:37 AM
#29
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:38 AM
Rapoport on NFL Network said Lovie will likely take a year off and doesn't want to be a DC.Was totally shocked when I saw Brandon Graham's tweet. I'm a little sceptical but very excited! Lovie Smith as DC would be amazing, ditto with Ray Horton.
#30
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:38 AM
Either way, it's got to be exciting for Eagles' fans right now! Congrats guys. I might adopt the Eagles into my "top 5" favs just to watch the fun.
If Chip Kelly can adjust to the NFL, you have to imagine he's salivating over the prospect of Maclin, Jackson, McCoy and Bryce Brown. Getting those guys into position to make plays is paramount. Kelly also knows how to run the ball, something that has been missing in Philly for a long time.
#31
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:39 AM
Potential defensive coordinator hires:
Rob Ryan -- NOT AT ALL my choice, but he's not yet official in STL and would probably love a chance to stick it to the Boys
Lovie Smith -- The dream choice, but I doubt he'll take a DC job but instead sit out a year and do media until next year's HC options
Ray Horton -- If he doesn't get Cardinals HC job (and it appears he won't), I would love to have his aggressive style in Philly
Todd Grantham -- Eagles have already identified him as a possibility if we hired Bradley, so we have to keep him in mind
I'm sure there are a ton of capable defensive assistants out there, just not sure how plugged in Chip Kelly would be with those guys.
I'm OK with Chip but I do NOT want an entire college staff if possible.
Agreed. Looks like Lovie is out of the equation, but that's not surprising. I wasn't as excited about Gus Bradley as most were, I think Kelly could be a great hire after reading some stuff about his influence at the NFL level.
#32
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:40 AM
#33
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:40 AM
#34
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:40 AM
@willbrinson: Chip Kelly on Nick Foles in 2011: "Hell of a football player. That kid’s a warrior. He’s as good as anyone in the country.”
#35
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:40 AM
Rapoport on NFL Network said Lovie will likely take a year off and doesn't want to be a DC.
Was totally shocked when I saw Brandon Graham's tweet. I'm a little sceptical but very excited! Lovie Smith as DC would be amazing, ditto with Ray Horton.
I don't blame him at all, he deserves to be a HC IMO.
#36
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:41 AM
#37
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:42 AM
I agree, but Grantham was an NFL coach.
Potential defensive coordinator hires:
Rob Ryan -- NOT AT ALL my choice, but he's not yet official in STL and would probably love a chance to stick it to the Boys
Lovie Smith -- The dream choice, but I doubt he'll take a DC job but instead sit out a year and do media until next year's HC options
Ray Horton -- If he doesn't get Cardinals HC job (and it appears he won't), I would love to have his aggressive style in Philly
Todd Grantham -- Eagles have already identified him as a possibility if we hired Bradley, so we have to keep him in mind
I'm sure there are a ton of capable defensive assistants out there, just not sure how plugged in Chip Kelly would be with those guys.
I'm OK with Chip but I do NOT want an entire college staff if possible.
1999-2001 (Colts DL coach)
2002-2004 (Texans DL coach)
2005-2007 (Browns DC)
2008-2009 (Cowboys DL coach)
An apparently he runs a 3-4 so I like him even more now
#38
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:43 AM
First thing Eagles have to fix is the Oline. I don't care who plays QB and who calls the plays, that has to be fixed!
Either way, it's got to be exciting for Eagles' fans right now! Congrats guys. I might adopt the Eagles into my "top 5" favs just to watch the fun.
If Chip Kelly can adjust to the NFL, you have to imagine he's salivating over the prospect of Maclin, Jackson, McCoy and Bryce Brown. Getting those guys into position to make plays is paramount. Kelly also knows how to run the ball, something that has been missing in Philly for a long time.
O-Line is nearly a automatic fix next year when players are back from injuries. Question is it the type of O-Line Kelly needs for the offense. I have no clue.
#39
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:43 AM
@MoveTheSticks: RT @tgilb2007: do the Eagles really have the D players for a 3-4 though? > Graham @ Curry could play OLB. Cox could easily play 5 tech
Edited by Bigboy10182000, 16 January 2013 - 10:44 AM.
#40
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:45 AM
#41
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:45 AM
I agree, but Grantham was an NFL coach.
Potential defensive coordinator hires:
Rob Ryan -- NOT AT ALL my choice, but he's not yet official in STL and would probably love a chance to stick it to the Boys
Lovie Smith -- The dream choice, but I doubt he'll take a DC job but instead sit out a year and do media until next year's HC options
Ray Horton -- If he doesn't get Cardinals HC job (and it appears he won't), I would love to have his aggressive style in Philly
Todd Grantham -- Eagles have already identified him as a possibility if we hired Bradley, so we have to keep him in mind
I'm sure there are a ton of capable defensive assistants out there, just not sure how plugged in Chip Kelly would be with those guys.
I'm OK with Chip but I do NOT want an entire college staff if possible.
1999-2001 (Colts DL coach)
2002-2004 (Texans DL coach)
2005-2007 (Browns DC)
2008-2009 (Cowboys DL coach)
And Grantham's defense has had success against spread offenses, correct?
#42
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:46 AM
@RapSheet: Heard the same. Kelly has never asked for that. RT @Jeff_McLane: To repeat what I was told weeks ago, Kelly didnt want full authority.
@RapSheet: What method did Howie Roseman use? Recruiting 101, per source. Push, push, pull away, give them time to think… push again. #Fundamentals
**Howie is the man now lol
Edited by Bigboy10182000, 16 January 2013 - 10:52 AM.
#43
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:48 AM
#44
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:52 AM
Well nobody knows how much of the scheme will be picked up but McCoy should be bumped up. I'm not sure how far he fell but his value should be higher with Chip and even Bryce Brown should have value b/c Chip has shown an ability to use 2 RBs.Any ideas on what this scheme would mean for each of the skill players?
#45
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:54 AM
#46
Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:57 AM
#47
Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:02 AM
And he knows Jarvis Jones pretty well. So he COULD be in play at #4 if he's there.
I agree, but Grantham was an NFL coach.
Potential defensive coordinator hires:
Rob Ryan -- NOT AT ALL my choice, but he's not yet official in STL and would probably love a chance to stick it to the Boys
Lovie Smith -- The dream choice, but I doubt he'll take a DC job but instead sit out a year and do media until next year's HC options
Ray Horton -- If he doesn't get Cardinals HC job (and it appears he won't), I would love to have his aggressive style in Philly
Todd Grantham -- Eagles have already identified him as a possibility if we hired Bradley, so we have to keep him in mind
I'm sure there are a ton of capable defensive assistants out there, just not sure how plugged in Chip Kelly would be with those guys.
I'm OK with Chip but I do NOT want an entire college staff if possible.
1999-2001 (Colts DL coach)
2002-2004 (Texans DL coach)
2005-2007 (Browns DC)
2008-2009 (Cowboys DL coach)
An apparently he runs a 3-4 so I like him even more now
#48
Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:02 AM
#49
Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:04 AM
#50
Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:13 AM
I'm very excited and optimistic about this hire. As for his system and the right players for it, it's my understanding both are fallacies. He won't plug and play his Oregon playbook to the Eagles and force the players to fit into it. That was Andy's style. I think Kelly will adjust to the player's strengths. My only concern now is who runs the defense? That decision can make or break this team.








