SacramentoBob
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Looks like a flash in the pan to me.
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Jordy Nelson - No Love? (2 Viewers)
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Dought Man
Footballguy
They were saying on the radio that the team will most likely be going with even more 4-5 wide spread situations with the offensive line troubles. They like giving Aaron options and he makes such quick decisions with the ball. Seems to make Nelson about on par with James Jones...depending on the week and where the open spots are.
Reepicheep
Footballguy
Think so?
cr8f
Footballguy
Jones' role: It's no secret that Mike McCarthy loves multi-receiver formations - any formation that stretches the contours of a defense. And the last two games, he's turning more to James Jones. Quickly, the fifth-year receiver is re-integrating into the rotation.
Through the first three games, Jones played in just 38 pass plays. The last two games? Fifty.
In Atlanta, he took full advantage with 140 yards on five catches, including the decisive 70-yard touchdown.
"Like I think I've said before, we caught them in a specific coverage. I'm sure Atlanta wanted to defend that play better than a 70-yard touchdown than they did, and sometimes it's a little bit of a roll of the dice in terms of who's in the game," offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said. "We feel like we've got a number of guys that can play in our three-receiver offense and we want to do a good job divvying up the snaps so to speak. James made the most of his opportunities yesterday, and it was good to see."
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-secondary-finally-looking-better-131493288.html
Through the first three games, Jones played in just 38 pass plays. The last two games? Fifty.
In Atlanta, he took full advantage with 140 yards on five catches, including the decisive 70-yard touchdown.
"Like I think I've said before, we caught them in a specific coverage. I'm sure Atlanta wanted to defend that play better than a 70-yard touchdown than they did, and sometimes it's a little bit of a roll of the dice in terms of who's in the game," offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said. "We feel like we've got a number of guys that can play in our three-receiver offense and we want to do a good job divvying up the snaps so to speak. James made the most of his opportunities yesterday, and it was good to see."
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-secondary-finally-looking-better-131493288.html
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Back to WR #13 this week.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
2 whole catches. He doesn't play the Rams every week.
TarheelBlue
Footballguy
I scarily find myself agreeing with Bob more often than not. Nelson has had two games in which his fantasy day was 100% made on one play. I certainly would not want to be banking on that going forward.
Scrappy Doo
Footballguy
I have no problem banking on one of Aaron Rodgers starting WRs. 
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
I agree that he will be inconsistent, as I said earlier in this thread.But the Packers will continue to score a LOT of TDs through the air and even with James Jones back in the mix, Jordy still seems to be in line to get his fair share.I think he will continue to be startable as a WR2 (12 team league, start 2 WR) and an excellent Flex play if your league has one.
Probably don't want to upset Jennings.
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LittlePhatty
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He's in the mix with Jennings and Finley, plus Green Bay spreads it around.Also, take a look at the current rankings for Rodgers:
#1 in passing TDs
#1 in average yards per completion
#1 in 40+ yard completions
#4 in total yardage
#15 in total passing attempts
(9 fewer than Matt Ryan and just a handful more than Fitzpatrick and Sanchez)
So, he's getting it done with a lot of long passes and long TDs.
That means fewer targets to spread around.
Continue to start Jordy with confidence.
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
It amazes me that there are still people who don't understand that fantasy football is full of peaks and valleys, and very few players are going to be productive every single week.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Especially when he outscores your WR3 and WR2 for the season.
He is actually my WR5, and I can't get him on the field often even with being able to start 4 WRs. Glad he performed well with Smith and Calvin on bye, but will likely be on my bench the rest of the year, barring injury.I think he is a guy you have to hold, mostly due to the perception that he isn't as good as he is playing, or won't be able to keep it up. I'd move him if I could get value for him, but I don't see that happening.
Bruce Leroy
Footballguy
Been starting him every week except my bye week. He's just as good as Brandon Marshall and I drafted him 119th overall.
Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
Nelson may very well be the most underrated wr in fantasy this season. Rock solid #2 wr in the most potent offense in football.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
#10 WR in 0.5 ppr after nine weeks.
Like most WR's Nelson is prone to variance and despite the rank I'm not comfortable considering him a WR1. But there is no question he has reached WR2 status (with upside).
Guys here can continue to debate his merits until the end of the season if they wish. But to this point those characterizing him a WR3 at best have been proven wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.
Like most WR's Nelson is prone to variance and despite the rank I'm not comfortable considering him a WR1. But there is no question he has reached WR2 status (with upside).
Guys here can continue to debate his merits until the end of the season if they wish. But to this point those characterizing him a WR3 at best have been proven wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.
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Joe Summer
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Ho hum, another week, another 50+ yards and a TD 2 TDs!!.
edit: updated!!
edit: updated!!
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GreenNGold
Footballguy
Jordy Nelson is a top 10 WR.
He is better than (going by those ranked higher than him this week):
Brandon Marshall
Dez Bryant
Vincent Jackson
Jeremy Maclin
Julio Jones
Roddy White
Santonio Holmes
Marques Colston
Anquan Boldin
Brandon Lloyd
Percy Harvin
Antonio Brown
Jacoby Ford
Some others were close.
He is better than (going by those ranked higher than him this week):
Brandon Marshall
Dez Bryant
Vincent Jackson
Jeremy Maclin
Julio Jones
Roddy White
Santonio Holmes
Marques Colston
Anquan Boldin
Brandon Lloyd
Percy Harvin
Antonio Brown
Jacoby Ford
Some others were close.
Darryl Talley
Footballguy
I hate this guy. Who even thought to draft him? You got lucky.
He should be giving 20% of his fantasy points to Finley and Jennings.
He should be giving 20% of his fantasy points to Finley and Jennings.
creeps1313
Footballguy
Anyone who paid attention to their playoff run. Same thing applies for those of us who also drafted Antonio Brown. Late round fliers....gotta love em!
Dark Matter
Footballguy
Offered up Steven Jackson two weeks ago. Owner said he didn't see how it made his team any better. After tonight, i gotta agree.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
He's a stud. He has outscored Jennings in 3 of their last 4 games.
Garts
Footballguy
So, is Nelson a big-time dynasty grab now?? or having a breakout and will plateau back.
He has a prototypical size/speed combo and like a previous poster said, draws the 2nd or 3rd coverage most plays. A-Rod seems to love the guy and he is great on boms or in the redzone, he really is the complete package.
Some weeks yoiu will get a 2-23, but he seems like a minor star in the making to me.
He has a prototypical size/speed combo and like a previous poster said, draws the 2nd or 3rd coverage most plays. A-Rod seems to love the guy and he is great on boms or in the redzone, he really is the complete package.
Some weeks yoiu will get a 2-23, but he seems like a minor star in the making to me.
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
In his last 16 games played (9 in 2011, 3 in playoffs, 4 in 2010), he posted 64-1124-10.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Didn't draft him. Traded for him (was actually mocked for "overpaying" for him) in about week 3 when it was clear based on their playoff run and the early season results that he was going to be a major part of the offense. It ain't all luck.
PS Glad someone else bumped this thread for me. 
glumpy
breeze
It's the whole offense. James Jones, 21 catches on 27 targets with 4 td's and a 16.95 ypc--but damn, how do you play the guy?? He's actually on the wire in my league at #31.
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Luke Skywalker
Guest
Got him in the 17th round and after an injury and Wayne's crappy season he's my WR2. Been a godsend. 
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Luke Skywalker
Guest
Don't know about your scoring system, but in mine he's only had less than 5 points one week and has more than 10 points in 6 out of 10 weeks. I'll take that kind of consistency anytime.
shadyridr
Footballguy
I specifically targeted Nelson late
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Really? His ADP during pre-season was somewhere around Round 10 or 11. Same situation as Lance Moore basically, but Rodgers is throwing TDs left and right like it isn't even work.
I went after Driver and Nelson under the assumption tat Driver gets hurt along the way. While the injury-to-Driver-part hasnt worked out, Nelson has been chugging along. Jordy is still in a heavy rotation and will disappear for entire drives and that wont change unless there is an injury. So keeping this level of production seems unrealistic...but as someone else mentioned; Jones is at a similar production/target ratio so Nelson's production is not so much of an aberration. Targets/fantasy points (with my *distance-heavy* scoring system):Jennings: 71 targets/102 fantasy pts. Finley: 48/33Nelson: 46/95 (the distance bonuses help Jordy)Jones: 27/49Driver: 28/12Cobb: 16/25 (including returns)
fightingillini
Footballguy
You can get a 2-23-0 game from almost any WR on a given week, with the exception of Calvin and Welker and maybe Jenning. See Bowe, V Jackson last week. Any WR can get shut down in a given week, and Nelson is no exception. But his upside is so big that he's a great #2WR to have.And the GB pie is so large that in more weeks than not, Nelson is going to get his. I do think his production has been helped by Finley's disappointing year. When Rodgers needs a key reception, he's usually going Jennings or Nelson.I would put Nelson around WR14 going forward in a PPR and WR12 in a nonppr, and is a very intriguing dynasty prospect.
fightingillini
Footballguy
BTW, I have a feeling that Nelson will be on a lot of championship teams this year. I have him in a 12 team PPR league where I drafted RBs and Tom Brady early (QB friendly league), and got Nelson in Round 8.....so far he has saved my year.
Cyclones
Footballguy
Nelson has been a godsend to my team - got him in a trade earlier this year after week 2 - sent Fitz and Pettigrew for AJ and Nelson. AJ has obviously hurt me, but Nelson has outscored Fitz since I made the deal. After last night, he is up to WR7 in my non PPR. I wouldn't trade him straight up for very many WRs right now.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Anyone who paid attention during the Superbowl. Drafted him in the 4th round (Dyansty).
Reepicheep
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
wow not a hint of racism in that quote
If a white WR ever came out and said something like this about a black WR, all hell would break loose.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Actually, Jennings' quote reminds me of what a lot of Jackie Robinson's teammates said in 1947. "Guys look at him and say, 'OK, he's the black guy, he can't be that good.' Well, he is that good."
Warpig
Footballguy
Jordy is the #8 scoring WR in my league. I'm always struggling trying to decide to put him in my lineup or not. He's the #3 WR on his team and I have #1 WR's that haven't scored half of what he has. But GB throws the ball a ton and they spread the wealth...which leads to my frustration because he'll have a big game followed by a 2/23 line.
But with that said, he'll be in my lineup for the rest of the year barring injury. I've tried to trade him but can't get much more than a bag of slobbery peanuts.
But with that said, he'll be in my lineup for the rest of the year barring injury. I've tried to trade him but can't get much more than a bag of slobbery peanuts.
footballfever
Footballguy
He has the same amount of TDs as Jennings. Who knew? Sleeper of the year in my book. Any WR with Aaron Rodgers at center deserves to be considered among the best.
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