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WR Josh Gordon, KC (3 Viewers)
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Does anyone have any actual evidence other than Josh Gordon that his positive test was for 16 ng/ml? I came in late on this thread.
@MaryKayCabot · 4m
#Browns Gordon will have his suspension reduced from season-long to 10 games because of the stage he was in: 4th violation equals 10 games.
@MaryKayCabot 1m
#Browns Gordon is getting no special treatment, lg source says. Just going by terms of the new policy. (4th violation equals 10 games).
#Browns Gordon will have his suspension reduced from season-long to 10 games because of the stage he was in: 4th violation equals 10 games.
@MaryKayCabot 1m
#Browns Gordon is getting no special treatment, lg source says. Just going by terms of the new policy. (4th violation equals 10 games).
NJ
Footballguy
(HULK)
(Smash)
it doesn't. 0 games is what will happen
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Ten games totally screws the Browns. Gordon gets an accrued season, so he becomes a free agent a year earlier than if his suspension were 11 games, but playing in only six games isn't really enough to help the team all that much.
StuntMonkee
Footballguy
I played a similar game with Harvin last year. . . . . .I must love this stuff.
Omniscient Deity
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Okay... here's my thought on this:
If you tested positive OR you were disciplined after March 11, the standards are retroactively applied.
He tested positive March 5 - so that standard isn't retroactively applied.
But he was disciplined after that - so the discipline standard IS retroactively applied, and he gets 10 games for his 4th violation instead of a year.
If you tested positive OR you were disciplined after March 11, the standards are retroactively applied.
He tested positive March 5 - so that standard isn't retroactively applied.
But he was disciplined after that - so the discipline standard IS retroactively applied, and he gets 10 games for his 4th violation instead of a year.
B-Deep
Footballguy
In all honesty this is so unfair to his employer
I mean your start p[layer is hanging in the balance, how are you supposed to plan? How do they even know what to do next week, or the weeks following. Their best car salesman could walk out the door based on this nfl ruling and they'll be left totally in the lurch
just so unfair
I mean your start p[layer is hanging in the balance, how are you supposed to plan? How do they even know what to do next week, or the weeks following. Their best car salesman could walk out the door based on this nfl ruling and they'll be left totally in the lurch
just so unfair
B-Deep
Footballguy
LawFitz
Footballguy
So now Mary Kay has insider knowledge? C'mon, you guys are better than that.
Best source by far, has been Feely. I do agree that there's some room in his words for interpretation, but I got the sense that he was talking in general terms, but actually referring them to JG, in particular; I remain very optimistic based on that interview and won't let MaryKayCabbotLodge twitter musings sway that.
Best source by far, has been Feely. I do agree that there's some room in his words for interpretation, but I got the sense that he was talking in general terms, but actually referring them to JG, in particular; I remain very optimistic based on that interview and won't let MaryKayCabbotLodge twitter musings sway that.
Listening to women talk football makes me want to ray rice myself (slamming my head on a hand rail)
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I've thought about it more, and I'm sticking to this interpretation until I read the actual language. Seems right to me.
B-Deep
Footballguy
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
He tested positive under the new threshold
It doesn't make any sense
It doesn't make any sense
JG has to be one of the unluckiest guys around
goes 1 ng over the old limit, blows a .09 in his DUI, misses amnesty by 6 days, was drafted by the Browns
it's a quadruple whammy
Keep in mind that nearly everything being reported is wrong. There may be no truth to ten games.
But it absolutely would make sense if the new policy gives a 10-game suspension for a fourth violation.
The ambiguous quote from Florio above says: "All players who tested positive or who were otherwise disciplined or placed into the drug or PED program will have retroactivity, with the new rules being reapplied as of March 11, 2014."
That could mean that anything (tests, suspensions, etc.) that happened on or after March 11 will be handled under the new policy rather than the old one.
Gordon's positive test happened before March 11, so it's still positive.
His suspension, however, happened after March 11, so instead of being suspended for a full year (under the old policy), he'll be suspended for only ten games (under the new policy).
Omniscient Deity
Footballguy
She's piggybacking off of what Clayton/ESPN is saying on T.V. Schefter says 8, Clayton says 10, Feely possibly implied even less than 8.....ugh.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
B-Deep
Footballguy
i fully anticipate something going wrong and no vote and we are still here next week wondering
i am also hoping for that
LawFitz
Footballguy
This makes a lot of sense, and would explain the 10 game ban scenario. It would also make sense of MaryKay's tweet.
Omniscient Deity
Footballguy
B-Deep
Footballguy
mquinnjr
Footballguy
bulger2holt
Footballguy
They won't agree to 10 games. Maybe 8
Henry Ford
Footballguy
If true, I hope the player reps vote down the proposal. Feely correctly noted it's unfair to Gordon and others who failed tests prior to March 11.
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mquinnjr
Footballguy
StuntMonkee
Footballguy
So here's a fun note - If this 10 game thing holds water, that would keep him out till mid November. . . .which just happens to coincide with his DUI court date. . . .and if convicted would be a new suspension.
HA!!!!
I need some scissors and a spoon please.
HA!!!!
I need some scissors and a spoon please.
rocketsauce
Footballguy
I know I know, this is a "look at me" post, but I've been F5ing this thing all day, AND talking trade with some people in my league. First I was trying to sell when it sounded like 8 games. Then I pulled all my offers when it looked like rainbows and sunshine. And right as the 10 game report comes in, he offers me Justin Hunter & Rashad Jennings for Gordon & Terrence West. And I pulled the trigger.
Felt like I had to - cause the 10 games is looking strong.
Felt like I had to - cause the 10 games is looking strong.
NJ
Footballguy
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 3m
From @RapSheet and me: If new drug policy passes, Browns WR Josh Gordon's suspension will be cut to 10 games. (@MaryKayCabot 1st reported).
From @RapSheet and me: If new drug policy passes, Browns WR Josh Gordon's suspension will be cut to 10 games. (@MaryKayCabot 1st reported).
Omniscient Deity
Footballguy
I'm gonna assume and proceed with trades under the assumption that it's 10 games at this point.
