Another school shooting (1 Viewer)

[PatsWillWin]

74 school shootings checked by CNN, 59 of them not exactly school shootings.

This was what I was trying to point out earlier in the thread. Everytown did a websearch for "school" & "shooting" and basically listed all the events that came up. Every school that has JROTC has a "school shooting" happen everyday that the Rifle Team practices based on Everytown's methodology. Simply discharging a firearm on any portion of school property on any day at anytime qualified as a school shooting in the eyes of Everytown.

Well there are still 15 genuine school shootings, which averages out to one every five weeks. Nothing wrong with being horrified by that number as it is.

 

[GoFishTN]

74 school shootings checked by CNN, 59 of them not exactly school shootings.

This was what I was trying to point out earlier in the thread. Everytown did a websearch for "school" & "shooting" and basically listed all the events that came up. Every school that has JROTC has a "school shooting" happen everyday that the Rifle Team practices based on Everytown's methodology. Simply discharging a firearm on any portion of school property on any day at anytime qualified as a school shooting in the eyes of Everytown.

Well there are still 15 genuine school shootings, which averages out to one every five weeks. Nothing wrong with being horrified by that number as it is.

If you go through the 15 left, it looks like around five are single victim incidents. Hardly the same. So ten shootings puts the average at eight weeks, or around six times per year. Still too many, obviously.

 

[Spanky267]

74 school shootings checked by CNN, 59 of them not exactly school shootings.

This was what I was trying to point out earlier in the thread. Everytown did a websearch for "school" & "shooting" and basically listed all the events that came up. Every school that has JROTC has a "school shooting" happen everyday that the Rifle Team practices based on Everytown's methodology. Simply discharging a firearm on any portion of school property on any day at anytime qualified as a school shooting in the eyes of Everytown.

Well there are still 15 genuine school shootings, which averages out to one every five weeks. Nothing wrong with being horrified by that number as it is.

If you go through the 15 left, it looks like around five are single victim incidents. Hardly the same. So ten shootings puts the average at eight weeks, or around six times per year. Still too many, obviously.

I agree that even 10 or 15 is far too many. The goal should be to study these 10 to 15 shootings to find out what drove these individuals to carry out these shootings. It seems in many cases these individuals feel slighted or have mental issues that havent been appropriately dealt with. Unfortunately many of these individuals are minors so they dont necessarily get blocked by our current background check system as their weapons are either acquired illegally or they belong to a family member.

I think if we focus on the 10 to 15 actual events we might be able to accomplish something.

 

[BigJohn]

One incher. Tops.

So strange to be so fixated on another man's penis.

Different strokes.

I just call em like I see em. Also, thanks for not disputing what is blatantly obvious.

Really? All the garbage that has come out of your mouth n this thread, and now you are seriously resorting to **** size?

Just go home.

 

[fantasycurse42]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/teens-weapons-plotted-mass-shooting-tennessee-high-school-authorities-article-1.1828968

A lot of this story doesn't make sense to me... Why would they wait so long to make the arrests and how do 15 year olds have a cache of weapons?

Good thing this was stopped though

 

[Chaos Commish]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/teens-weapons-plotted-mass-shooting-tennessee-high-school-authorities-article-1.1828968

A lot of this story doesn't make sense to me... Why would they wait so long to make the arrests and how do 15 year olds have a cache of weapons?

Good thing this was stopped though

Stopped another 15 year old outside LA. Maybe we're wising up to taking crazy online threats seriously.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I used to shoot for fun, I'm aware how much 300 rounds is. I'm also aware of how ####### ridiculous it is to own 10 magazines for the same weapon.

Hey, you never know when someone might break in to your home. Once you miss with the first 270 rounds, you're going to lament the fact you didn't have that tenth magazine!

 

[cosjobs]

Interesting article on the subject

http://www.sott.net/article/279716-Nearly-every-mass-shooting-in-the-last-20-years-shares-one-thing-in-common-and-it-isnt-weapons

That article is way too simplisitic -- a long collection of anedotes impugning a dozen different medications with little background or nuance. Throws he baby out with the bathwater.

Yeah, I'm no fan of the over medication of America, but his argument is like saying car crash victims taken to the hospital in am ambulance are 5000x more likely to die than those who drove themselves.

 

[Henry Ford]

74 school shootings checked by CNN, 59 of them not exactly school shootings.

This was what I was trying to point out earlier in the thread. Everytown did a websearch for "school" & "shooting" and basically listed all the events that came up. Every school that has JROTC has a "school shooting" happen everyday that the Rifle Team practices based on Everytown's methodology. Simply discharging a firearm on any portion of school property on any day at anytime qualified as a school shooting in the eyes of Everytown.

Well there are still 15 genuine school shootings, which averages out to one every five weeks. Nothing wrong with being horrified by that number as it is.

If you take out summer weeks, I think there's one for every month of the school year, on average. That happens in India right?

 

[Spanky267]

74 school shootings checked by CNN, 59 of them not exactly school shootings.

This was what I was trying to point out earlier in the thread. Everytown did a websearch for "school" & "shooting" and basically listed all the events that came up. Every school that has JROTC has a "school shooting" happen everyday that the Rifle Team practices based on Everytown's methodology. Simply discharging a firearm on any portion of school property on any day at anytime qualified as a school shooting in the eyes of Everytown.

Well there are still 15 genuine school shootings, which averages out to one every five weeks. Nothing wrong with being horrified by that number as it is.

If you take out summer weeks, I think there's one for every month of the school year, on average. That happens in India right?

India has bigger problems. They are losing 3000 children a day to starvation. Also, most firearms are not legal for private ownership in India.

 

[Henry Ford]

74 school shootings checked by CNN, 59 of them not exactly school shootings.

This was what I was trying to point out earlier in the thread. Everytown did a websearch for "school" & "shooting" and basically listed all the events that came up. Every school that has JROTC has a "school shooting" happen everyday that the Rifle Team practices based on Everytown's methodology. Simply discharging a firearm on any portion of school property on any day at anytime qualified as a school shooting in the eyes of Everytown.

Well there are still 15 genuine school shootings, which averages out to one every five weeks. Nothing wrong with being horrified by that number as it is.

If you take out summer weeks, I think there's one for every month of the school year, on average. That happens in India right?

India has bigger problems. They are losing 3000 children a day to starvation. Also, most firearms are not legal for private ownership in India.

Well, right. I mean, there's extreme poverty, a huge mental healthcare crisis, it's a democracy with a huge population... I'm asking what the relevant differences are between India and the U.S. that keep school shootings from happening once a month.

If you think it's gun control laws, that's certainly one possibility. As a side note, of course, there are legal privately owned guns in India. You need a permit to own legally, and they're very hard to get.

 

[Spanky267]

74 school shootings checked by CNN, 59 of them not exactly school shootings.

This was what I was trying to point out earlier in the thread. Everytown did a websearch for "school" & "shooting" and basically listed all the events that came up. Every school that has JROTC has a "school shooting" happen everyday that the Rifle Team practices based on Everytown's methodology. Simply discharging a firearm on any portion of school property on any day at anytime qualified as a school shooting in the eyes of Everytown.

Well there are still 15 genuine school shootings, which averages out to one every five weeks. Nothing wrong with being horrified by that number as it is.

If you take out summer weeks, I think there's one for every month of the school year, on average. That happens in India right?

India has bigger problems. They are losing 3000 children a day to starvation. Also, most firearms are not legal for private ownership in India.

Well, right. I mean, there's extreme poverty, a huge mental healthcare crisis, it's a democracy with a huge population... I'm asking what the relevant differences are between India and the U.S. that keep school shootings from happening once a month.

If you think it's gun control laws, that's certainly one possibility. As a side note, of course, there are legal privately owned guns in India. You need a permit to own legally, and they're very hard to get.

Yes. Some firearms are privately owned in India. Mostly 12ga double barrelled shotguns and .32 cal revolvers. I think there are number of reasons why India doesnt have the problems we have and why we dont have many of the problems India does. It doesnt all boil down to one law. India has no culture of large scale private firearm ownership. We do. Does that mean we are right and they are wrong or vice cersa? No. It just means that largely we cant compare ourselves to them or them to us.

Our problems with gun violence are unlike those of any other nation as such some of the things that have been effective in other countries wont be effective here as they will be met with stiff resistance and opposition.

 

[Henry Ford]

Instead of arming teachers or buying "bulletproof blankets."

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/09/forget-arming-teachers-firefighters-simple-invention-may-go-long-way-towards-stopping-school-shooters/

 

[ATC1]

Instead of arming teachers or buying "bulletproof blankets."

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/09/forget-arming-teachers-firefighters-simple-invention-may-go-long-way-towards-stopping-school-shooters/

I'd like to know how many locked doors have been busted open by a shooter to get into a classroom. Could this have prevented Sandy Hook? There are about 30 kids in one classroom? Seems like the shooter gets into the 1st classroom without detection and will have the same number of victims as Sandy Hook.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Bump

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Instead of arming teachers or buying "bulletproof blankets."

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/09/forget-arming-teachers-firefighters-simple-invention-may-go-long-way-towards-stopping-school-shooters/

I'd like to know how many locked doors have been busted open by a shooter to get into a classroom. Could this have prevented Sandy Hook? There are about 30 kids in one classroom? Seems like the shooter gets into the 1st classroom without detection and will have the same number of victims as Sandy Hook.

We have a locked door policy at my school. Take a look at both Sandy Hook and Virgina Tech and you'll see why.

 

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Bump

:(

T&P to those affected.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

There really are days where you just can't explain anything. JFC.

You really can't hug your kids enough.

 

[jamny]

:(

3 students reported dead

 

[Fennis]

im really tired of these school shootings. so sad.

 

[lod01]

Bump

Over 3 months between school shootings. Things are looking up.

 

[jamny]

shooter was a student

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

We are never going to fix this problem. EVER!

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

We are never going to fix this problem. EVER!

You're probably right. But there are things we can do to keep the number of dead/wounded as low as possible.

 

[lod01]

We are never going to fix this problem. EVER!

I could fix it. But a lot of people wouldn't like it.

Shooter dead.

 

[Fennis]

We are never going to fix this problem. EVER!

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

 

[lod01]

I'm reading that only the loser is dead.

 

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I'm reading that only the loser is dead.

yep. Same.

 

[CurlyNight]

So sad. Seems 3 students were taken by ambulance, 1 with a head wound. :(

 

[toshiba]

Is this what they mean by expressing your second amendment rights?

 

[CurlyNight]

One student said the shooter was very popular but was recently a victim of bullying. I am thankful I have no kids in school. Feel bad for parents who do as you just never know. :(

 

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Will be interesting to see how the common variables shake out:

• Kid on anti-depressants / has past history or warning signs?
• Firearm illegally obtained and/or improperly stored by irresponsible parents?
• Stopped by law enforcement / security guard / other?

 

[Leroy's Aces]

Source twitter:

Shooter's name is Jaylen Fryberg. Parents bought him a gun for his 17th birthday. His twitter is/was @frybergj.

 

[lod01]

One student said the shooter was very popular but was recently a victim of bullying. I am thankful I have no kids in school. Feel bad for parents who do as you just never know. :(

Back when we were a tough and civilized country:

Bully gets called into principal's office, takes a beatdown via the paddle. Bullying stops.

Nowadays under new ####ification rules:

Bully gets called into principal's office, 'um, quit bullying'.

 

[CurlyNight]

Will be interesting to see how the common variables shake out:

• Kid on anti-depressants / has past history or warning signs?

• Firearm illegally obtained and/or improperly stored by irresponsible parents?

• Stopped by law enforcement / security guard / other?

He killed himself. Seems these people do have the intention of committing suicide and decide to take out people before they do and before authorities get to them.

 

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Facebook?

 

[CurlyNight]

One student said the shooter was very popular but was recently a victim of bullying. I am thankful I have no kids in school. Feel bad for parents who do as you just never know. :(

Back when we were a tough and civilized country:

Bully gets called into principal's office, takes a beatdown via the paddle. Bullying stops.

Nowadays under new ####ification rules:

Bully gets called into principal's office, 'um, quit bullying'.

Man how things have changed. When I was in high school, you never heard of school shootings. Plenty of people were bullied, had mental illness, etc. I don't think access to guns has changed other than it being a bit more strict. Just don't know... and I fear for future generations as life in general does not get easier..

 

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Will be interesting to see how the common variables shake out:

• Kid on anti-depressants / has past history or warning signs?

• Firearm illegally obtained and/or improperly stored by irresponsible parents?

• Stopped by law enforcement / security guard / other?

He killed himself. Seems these people do have the intention of committing suicide and decide to take out people before they do and before authorities get to them.

Another argument for having trained/armed security on school grounds. MANY of these shooters want a free for all until they're confronted, then they off themselves.

Let's just fast forward to the "off themselves" part by confronting them as quickly as possible IMO.

 

[Billy Bats]

Source twitter:

Parents bought him a gun for his 17th birthday.

 

[TobiasFunke]

One student said the shooter was very popular but was recently a victim of bullying. I am thankful I have no kids in school. Feel bad for parents who do as you just never know. :(

Back when we were a tough and civilized country:

Bully gets called into principal's office, takes a beatdown via the paddle. Bullying stops.

Nowadays under new ####ification rules:

Bully gets called into principal's office, 'um, quit bullying'.

Man how things have changed. When I was in high school, you never heard of school shootings. Plenty of people were bullied, had mental illness, etc. I don't think access to guns has changed other than it being a bit more strict. Just don't know... and I fear for future generations as life in general does not get easier..

What's changed is that there's now an internet and 24 hour news channels. I don't know when you went to high school but I'm fairly sure there were plenty of school shootings.

 

[Fennis]

One student said the shooter was very popular but was recently a victim of bullying. I am thankful I have no kids in school. Feel bad for parents who do as you just never know. :(

Back when we were a tough and civilized country:

Bully gets called into principal's office, takes a beatdown via the paddle. Bullying stops.

Nowadays under new ####ification rules:

Bully gets called into principal's office, 'um, quit bullying'.

when was this?

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Jaylen Fryberg last text on twitter It won't last.... It'll never last....

 

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Source twitter:

Shooter's name is Jaylen Fryberg. Parents bought him a gun for his 17th birthday. His twitter is/was @frybergj.

Legal age for gun ownership in WA is 18+.

Parents better lawyer up... not only will they have to live with the outcome of this terrible decision, but they're going to pay for it too.

 

[lod01]

One student said the shooter was very popular but was recently a victim of bullying. I am thankful I have no kids in school. Feel bad for parents who do as you just never know. :(

Back when we were a tough and civilized country:

Bully gets called into principal's office, takes a beatdown via the paddle. Bullying stops.

Nowadays under new ####ification rules:

Bully gets called into principal's office, 'um, quit bullying'.

when was this?

Before you were born.

 

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Jaylen Fryberg @frybergj · Aug 20
Your not gonna like what happens next

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Jaylen Fryberg @frybergj · Aug 20
Your gonna piss me off... And then some ####s gonna go down and I don't think you'll like it...

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[Fennis]

there are 2 gun back ground check related propositions on the ballot in Washington. This will likely impact I-594 (pro gun registration) and i591 (against).

Although passage would not have prevented this sort of tragedy,

 

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Good lord this kid's twitter is a steady stream of porn and melodrama for months on end.

 

[Fennis]

One student said the shooter was very popular but was recently a victim of bullying. I am thankful I have no kids in school. Feel bad for parents who do as you just never know. :(

Back when we were a tough and civilized country:

Bully gets called into principal's office, takes a beatdown via the paddle. Bullying stops.

Nowadays under new ####ification rules:

Bully gets called into principal's office, 'um, quit bullying'.

when was this?

Before you were born.

ok thanks for taking the time to answer

 

[Fennis]

Good lord this kid's twitter is a steady stream of porn and melodrama for months on end.

 

[CurlyNight]

One student said the shooter was very popular but was recently a victim of bullying. I am thankful I have no kids in school. Feel bad for parents who do as you just never know. :(

Back when we were a tough and civilized country:

Bully gets called into principal's office, takes a beatdown via the paddle. Bullying stops.

Nowadays under new ####ification rules:

Bully gets called into principal's office, 'um, quit bullying'.

Man how things have changed. When I was in high school, you never heard of school shootings. Plenty of people were bullied, had mental illness, etc. I don't think access to guns has changed other than it being a bit more strict. Just don't know... and I fear for future generations as life in general does not get easier..

What's changed is that there's now an internet and 24 hour news channels. I don't know when you went to high school but I'm fairly sure there were plenty of school shootings.

The 80s... and the news on the fewer channels than we have now did report on news in and outside the US. I agree with the internet being a problem. Just like how the extremists are recruiting Isis, the internet glorifies becoming a martyr for those who are looking to become one. Technology is great but is also a big problem...