Tau837
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Warner had a 93.2 passer rating that season and, more importantly, led the team to a 10-5 record in his starts, and the team won its division. Then he was 29/33 for 379 yards and 5 TDs in the first playoff game, a 51-45 win over the Packers. Yeah, I'd say that was a franchise QB season.You mean the season that inspired Elway to ask Manning to cut his pay in half? As it is Elway was unwilling to give Manning "Cutler Money" based on how he looked last year. I think paying anyone $20+mil to hobble down the stretch and can't throw a 30 yard pass by the playoffs would be excessive, yes. If Manning was only injured and when healthy would be in '13 form... then why the paycut? Or do you think we have a better idea of Mannings health/ability/worth than Elway has access to?You don't think Peyton played like a franchise QB last season? If you don't, perhaps you should define what you mean by franchise QB.So is the only example of a QB playing like a franchise QB through his age 38 season or older Brett Favre?
Warner 3700/26/14.... meh, I guess if you consider Andy Dalton as a true franchise QB. I don't think many people think Dalton is a $20+million man.
I'll give you Moon though, forgot just how well he played in MIN. So the entire list of guys who have played at a franchise level to the end of the season(the END of the season is what matters if you are trying to win a SB, no?) is:
Moon
Favre
Those don't seem like good odds to me. I don't see the point but it doesn't piss me off nearly as much as it's probably going to piss off Weddle. If I was Telescoe I wouldn't be worrying what dead money is on the salary cap in four years either. In a lot of ways it seems like his moves are just to avoid short term criticism by your average person in the stands. And we know how that ends.
You also ignored Elway here. He led his team to a second straight Super Bowl win at age 38. The team was 10-2 in his 12 starts, and he had a 93 passer rating. He didn't put up monster numbers because he didn't have to, as the team ran for 2468 yards. He did throw for 336 yards in the Super Bowl. That's obviously a franchise QB season.
We agree on Moon and Favre.
We can agree to disagree on Peyton. He passed for 4727 yards and 39 TDs last season, led his team to a 12-4 regular season record and division title, and was a Pro Bowler. He got hurt at some point late in the season and it affected his play. But I don't see how that isn't a franchise QB season.
Brady is probably going to put up a great year this season at age 38 and join this club, and Brees might do the same next year. Roethlisberger and Eli will be under big contracts and have a chance to do it.
Notice a trend here? These quality age 38 seasons seem to be becoming more prevalent.
And at Weddle being upset about it. I think there is zero chance of that. They are friends, and Weddle understands the business. I'm sure he fully expected Rivers to get an extension like this. The Liuget deal would be a better target if he was going to be upset about another deal, but I doubt he was upset about that either. If the team wanted to extend Weddle, they could do it independent of these other deals, and I'm sure he knows that.
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