The Real Official wildcard game 2 *** Steeler Vs Bengals *** (1 Viewer)

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

Can we all stop pretending that Porter had any intentions of checking on Brown? He was on the other side of the field where Bengals players were talking to a ref. He had a plan, knew what he was doing and executed it perfectly. Did nobody see the Steelers player jump like a kindergartener when the flag flew? They knew exactly what they were doing.

Watch it again... As brown is helped up by 3 trainers, porter is standing right behind the third trainer and burfict was to his left... Burfict reaches out to touch brown on the shoulder (presumably to make sure he's ok) and in the process is kinda leaning over the third attendant/trainer who is standing behind brown... That attendant (probably thinking burficts intentions aren't good) kind of pushes burficts right arm away and as burfict steps back his arm gets real close to porters face/right shoulder area... Joey starts jawing with burfict at that point (prolly talking before that too) and burfict kind of walks around to the front of porter and then saunters to joeys left side... Joey continues jawing and turns to his left which happens to be toward the Bengal sideline... At this point brown and the attendants are closer to sideline and now joey is kind of surrounded by Bengals... Wallace gillberry (not jones) initially bumps into joey from behind and a few refs hustle toward the grouping just as the camera feed gets switched to marvin Lewis on the sideline... From there you can't see much until they show Adam Jones bumping into ref as he tries to get to joey....Should porter be on the field... Prolly not... But from what I saw a coach was surrounded by many opposing team members and as the refs tried to keep the peace pac man decided he needed to make his presence known

Can't really say much more than that

Yes Burfect was checking to see if AB was ok. https://twitter.com/colin_dunlap/status/686310990015774720

And I'm fine with accepting that he was checking on brown but I'm assuming in the heat of the moment the Steelers had their doubts about his intentions based on his history and reputation for dirty play

 

[apalmer]

This is the state of football today.

A multipage cluster#### between guys who have watched football their entire lives and they can't even come to an agreement about what constitutes a legal tackle in a sport that is often referred to as "tackle football".

Two major plays and there is this much ambiguity.

It just occurred to me that I really have no idea how to explain the rules of this game to somebody who isn't familiar with it.

This

Not really.There is zero ambiguity...both the Shazier hit and Burfict hits were illegal...and both should have been flagged. Both will be fined.

Refs miss calls in full speed real time

I've seen numerous plays they have gotten wrong even after watching replays because the rules are so confusing.And this thread is proof that fans are confused about the rules.

But I will put you down as a vote for the "Rules of the NFL are clearer and easier to understand".

When it comes to illegal hits. Yes, both being discussed are clearly defined.

And yet sports talk all across the country is littered with fans arguing over whether are not both were legal, both were illegal or one wasn't and the other was.

It is clearly defined that Porter should have been flagged based on the rules...but he wasn't.

I'm having a,hard time understanding why you are saying there is no confusion about these things when there are literally pages of members here unable to reach a consensus.

We haven't even gotten into the bs of what does and does not constitute a catch.

And Burfict and half the Bengals' defense weren't flagged when they all ran onto the field to threaten Shazier when he was walking back toward the line of scrimmage after returning the fumble for a TD. Play is whistled dead, ruling is that there is no fumble and the ball is still Cincy's, so what are Burfict and his gang doing on the field? The difference is that Shazier didn't take a swing at them. With all the serious infractions they were trying to stop, a coach walking onto the field when one of his players is lying there unconscious is the least of the officials' worries.

 

[knowledge dropper]

This is the state of football today.

A multipage cluster#### between guys who have watched football their entire lives and they can't even come to an agreement about what constitutes a legal tackle in a sport that is often referred to as "tackle football".

Two major plays and there is this much ambiguity.

It just occurred to me that I really have no idea how to explain the rules of this game to somebody who isn't familiar with it.

This

Not really.There is zero ambiguity...both the Shazier hit and Burfict hits were illegal...and both should have been flagged. Both will be fined.

Refs miss calls in full speed real time

I've seen numerous plays they have gotten wrong even after watching replays because the rules are so confusing.And this thread is proof that fans are confused about the rules.

But I will put you down as a vote for the "Rules of the NFL are clearer and easier to understand".

When it comes to illegal hits. Yes, both being discussed are clearly defined.

And yet sports talk all across the country is littered with fans arguing over whether are not both were legal, both were illegal or one wasn't and the other was.It is clearly defined that Porter should have been flagged based on the rules...but he wasn't.

I'm having a,hard time understanding why you are saying there is no confusion about these things when there are literally pages of members here unable to reach a consensus.

We haven't even gotten into the bs of what does and does not constitute a catch.

And Burfict and half the Bengals' defense weren't flagged when they all ran onto the field to threaten Shazier when he was walking back toward the line of scrimmage after returning the fumble for a TD. Play is whistled dead, ruling is that there is no fumble and the ball is still Cincy's, so what are Burfict and his gang doing on the field? The difference is that Shazier didn't take a swing at them. With all the serious infractions they were trying to stop, a coach walking onto the field when one of his players is lying there unconscious is the least of the officials' worries.

You do realize the Steelers were dancing after the Bernard injury which set off the crowd and Bengsls?

 

[Buzzbait]

The issue isn't that Porter was on the field (although I still question that he was allowed and had permission). The issue is that Porter engaged in banter and provoked the incident. Saying this I'm not absolving Jones who was an idiot and took the bait. What Porter did was against the rules and should have been flagged immediately. Instead the refs did nothing, Jones pushed through the refs to engage Porter and was flagged resulting in a chip shot FG.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2016/01/10/heres-the-rule-officials-ignored-with-joey-porter-to-give-steelers-win-over-bengals/

 

[belljr]

So now allegedly. Burfict spit on DiCastro and was yelling he put Brown to sleep.

I believe 1 of them

 

[Steelers4Life]

The issue isn't that Porter was on the field (although I still question that he was allowed and had permission). The issue is that Porter engaged in banter and provoked the incident. Saying this I'm not absolving Jones who was an idiot and took the bait. What Porter did was against the rules and should have been flagged immediately. Instead the refs did nothing, Jones pushed through the refs to engage Porter and was flagged resulting in a chip shot FG.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2016/01/10/heres-the-rule-officials-ignored-with-joey-porter-to-give-steelers-win-over-bengals/

He was out there the entire time they were tending to Brown, right behind the training staff. The officials knew he was there, so he obviously had their permission or he would've been escorted off the field or penalized. Neither happened.

If teams were penalized every time an assistant coach said something derogatory to a player, we'd have a zillion penalties a game. It happens a lot, including EVERY time there's a big hit in a game. Tons of Bengals coaches AND players came onto the field screaming after Bernard was hit, but there was no outcry for a penalty. Why? Because it was just words. If that play wasn't blown dead, it could've been a TD for the Steelers, yet no Steelers threw a fit about that either.

Pac Man got what he deserved for taking a volatile situation and making it worse by contacting the ref. You simply can't do that. And if he hadn't, the Steelers STILL would've been in range for a 50 yard field goal with about 20 seconds left to play with.

 

[Godsbrother]

This is the state of football today.

A multipage cluster#### between guys who have watched football their entire lives and they can't even come to an agreement about what constitutes a legal tackle in a sport that is often referred to as "tackle football".

Two major plays and there is this much ambiguity.

It just occurred to me that I really have no idea how to explain the rules of this game to somebody who isn't familiar with it.

This

Not really.There is zero ambiguity...both the Shazier hit and Burfict hits were illegal...and both should have been flagged. Both will be fined.

Refs miss calls in full speed real time

I've seen numerous plays they have gotten wrong even after watching replays because the rules are so confusing.And this thread is proof that fans are confused about the rules.

But I will put you down as a vote for the "Rules of the NFL are clearer and easier to understand".

When it comes to illegal hits. Yes, both being discussed are clearly defined.

And yet sports talk all across the country is littered with fans arguing over whether are not both were legal, both were illegal or one wasn't and the other was.It is clearly defined that Porter should have been flagged based on the rules...but he wasn't.

I'm having a,hard time understanding why you are saying there is no confusion about these things when there are literally pages of members here unable to reach a consensus.

We haven't even gotten into the bs of what does and does not constitute a catch.

And Burfict and half the Bengals' defense weren't flagged when they all ran onto the field to threaten Shazier when he was walking back toward the line of scrimmage after returning the fumble for a TD. Play is whistled dead, ruling is that there is no fumble and the ball is still Cincy's, so what are Burfict and his gang doing on the field? The difference is that Shazier didn't take a swing at them. With all the serious infractions they were trying to stop, a coach walking onto the field when one of his players is lying there unconscious is the least of the officials' worries.

You do realize the Steelers were dancing after the Bernard injury which set off the crowd and Bengsls?

The Bengals defense (Burfict in particular) were hell-bent on showing the Steelers they were the tougher team all season (check out the first 2 games if you don't believe me). They needed no prompting in this or any other game.

As far as the crowd goes it was a playoff game, against a hated division opponent on prime-time on Saturday night. No doubt many of them began tailgating hours before so I am sure alcohol played a role in some of the poor behavior. I have seen it at Steelers games too -- there are always going to be a few drunken idiots in the stands.

 

[Chef Boyardee]

So now allegedly. Burfict spit on DiCastro and was yelling he put Brown to sleep.

I believe 1 of them

Yeah but you have to take into account that the Steelers really hurt their feelings way back in the third quarter when they celebrating after they hurt Bernard. I mean how can you expect them to control themselves after something so traumatic?

 

[Buzzbait]

The issue isn't that Porter was on the field (although I still question that he was allowed and had permission). The issue is that Porter engaged in banter and provoked the incident. Saying this I'm not absolving Jones who was an idiot and took the bait. What Porter did was against the rules and should have been flagged immediately. Instead the refs did nothing, Jones pushed through the refs to engage Porter and was flagged resulting in a chip shot FG.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2016/01/10/heres-the-rule-officials-ignored-with-joey-porter-to-give-steelers-win-over-bengals/

He was out there the entire time they were tending to Brown, right behind the training staff. The officials knew he was there, so he obviously had their permission or he would've been escorted off the field or penalized. Neither happened.

I'm not questioning if he had permission (I'm still not sure he did but it's moot to my point).

If teams were penalized every time an assistant coach said something derogatory to a player, we'd have a zillion penalties a game. It happens a lot, including EVERY time there's a big hit in a game. Tons of Bengals coaches AND players came onto the field screaming after Bernard was hit, but there was no outcry for a penalty. Why? Because it was just words. If that play wasn't blown dead, it could've been a TD for the Steelers, yet no Steelers threw a fit about that either.

Agree to disagree. It is not common at all IMO for a coach to be on the field yelling at players of the opposing teams. Especially in the playoffs of a 1 point game with division rivals who have shown so much hate for one another. The rules allow for a flag and Porter should have been given one. Not doing so let the situation get further out of hand.

Pac Man got what he deserved for taking a volatile situation and making it worse by contacting the ref. You simply can't do that. And if he hadn't, the Steelers STILL would've been in range for a 50 yard field goal with about 20 seconds left to play with.

No doubt that Jones took the bait and allowed for a short FG. It would have been interesting to see a 50 yard FG in the rain with everything on the line. We'll never know.

 

[Buzzbait]

As far as the crowd goes it was a playoff game, against a hated division opponent on prime-time on Saturday night. No doubt many of them began tailgating hours before so I am sure alcohol played a role in some of the poor behavior. I have seen it at Steelers games too -- there are always going to be a few drunken idiots in the stands.

Tailgating or not there's no excuse for the Bengals fans throwing cans on the field. Idiots.

Speaking of idiots here's pictures of the six who were arrested (3 from each team).

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/01/10/6-arrested-assaults-during-bengals-game/78590842/

 

[Godsbrother]

As far as the crowd goes it was a playoff game, against a hated division opponent on prime-time on Saturday night. No doubt many of them began tailgating hours before so I am sure alcohol played a role in some of the poor behavior. I have seen it at Steelers games too -- there are always going to be a few drunken idiots in the stands.

Tailgating or not there's no excuse for the Bengals fans throwing cans on the field. Idiots.

Speaking of idiots here's pictures of the six who were arrested (3 from each team).

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/01/10/6-arrested-assaults-during-bengals-game/78590842/

Agreed. What a bunch of idiots.

 

[RBM]

As far as the crowd goes it was a playoff game, against a hated division opponent on prime-time on Saturday night. No doubt many of them began tailgating hours before so I am sure alcohol played a role in some of the poor behavior. I have seen it at Steelers games too -- there are always going to be a few drunken idiots in the stands.

Tailgating or not there's no excuse for the Bengals fans throwing cans on the field. Idiots.

Speaking of idiots here's pictures of the six who were arrested (3 from each team).

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/01/10/6-arrested-assaults-during-bengals-game/78590842/

Punching women, urinating on somebody.....nice family night in Cincy. ####### lowlife trash.

 

[Neofight]

From Profootballtalk - video of burfict driving his knee into BenR shoulder on the sack.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/10/burfict-gave-ben-the-business-on-shoulder-injuring-sack/

Kids been like this since his days at ASU, at least. Probably started in the womb.

I dont think that was intentional.However, anybody else agree there was a punch here at 2:26:12 of this video?

You think his knee slipped into Roethlisberger's shoulder, as he repositions his body and slams his knee into it. Why did he change positions?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

After several re-watchings of how the Bengals "handle" Joey Porter... the Bengals were even worse and dumber then that single flag on Pacman. Could have had more.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Really this was just an ugly game all around. There are players and coaches from both teams who are to blame. As much as we say the refs let the game get out of hand, they still called 220 yards of penalties in the game I think they did an ok job given the circumstance but players/coaches from both teams were hell-bent on making this game personal. As a Steelers fan, I only hope that this team is far more disciplined next week. Otherwise season over.

 

[modogg]

Really this was just an ugly game all around. There are players and coaches from both teams who are to blame. As much as we say the refs let the game get out of hand, they still called 220 yards of penalties in the game I think they did an ok job given the circumstance but players/coaches from both teams were hell-bent on making this game personal. As a Steelers fan, I only hope that this team is far more disciplined next week. Otherwise season over.

I keep reading and hearing that Porter got the game ball after the game. That pretty much says it all for how the Steelers organization wants to be

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Really this was just an ugly game all around. There are players and coaches from both teams who are to blame. As much as we say the refs let the game get out of hand, they still called 220 yards of penalties in the game I think they did an ok job given the circumstance but players/coaches from both teams were hell-bent on making this game personal. As a Steelers fan, I only hope that this team is far more disciplined next week. Otherwise season over.

I keep reading and hearing that Porter got the game ball after the game. That pretty much says it all for how the Steelers organization wants to be

Yeah, when tempers flare and people starting yelling, losing control and getting physical with you... know & understand the current situation, just smile, stay calm, put your hands in your pocket and dont be the one who gets penalized. Gameball!

 

[fred_1_15301]

Really this was just an ugly game all around. There are players and coaches from both teams who are to blame. As much as we say the refs let the game get out of hand, they still called 220 yards of penalties in the game I think they did an ok job given the circumstance but players/coaches from both teams were hell-bent on making this game personal. As a Steelers fan, I only hope that this team is far more disciplined next week. Otherwise season over.

I keep reading and hearing that Porter got the game ball after the game. That pretty much says it all for how the Steelers organization wants to be

I don't believe that any organization is noble. They all want to win at all costs. This idea that the Rooney's run a tight ship is just a myth. This particular game had a lot of emotions because of the recent history of these 2 teams/fanbases. They legitimately hate each other. This is almost even more heated than the old Steelers/Ravens rivalries. It doesn't excuse the behavior of the players/coaches but I'm not surprised what happened.

Game ball should have went to the kicker IMO

 

[zftcg]

With everyone throwing blame on Burfict, Jones, Hill and the refs, let's not ignore the absolutely horrible play call by Hue Jackson on the two-point try. What the hell was that play supposed to accomplish? When it happened, I immediately thought of last year's NFC Championship Game. Seattle clawed all the way back to take the lead and go up one, then Wilson threw that lollipop to Willson, which seemed important at the time, but became crucial when GB drove down and kicked a FG to tie at the end of regulation.

A better play call could have meant Steelers were playing to tie at the end. And if that game goes to OT with an injured Ben and no Brown, you have to like the Bengals odds.

 

[The General]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

 

[jonessed]

The only winner from this self-destruction was the Broncos.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

 

[The General]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

 

[Steelers4Life]

The issue isn't that Porter was on the field (although I still question that he was allowed and had permission). The issue is that Porter engaged in banter and provoked the incident. Saying this I'm not absolving Jones who was an idiot and took the bait. What Porter did was against the rules and should have been flagged immediately. Instead the refs did nothing, Jones pushed through the refs to engage Porter and was flagged resulting in a chip shot FG.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2016/01/10/heres-the-rule-officials-ignored-with-joey-porter-to-give-steelers-win-over-bengals/

He was out there the entire time they were tending to Brown, right behind the training staff. The officials knew he was there, so he obviously had their permission or he would've been escorted off the field or penalized. Neither happened.

I'm not questioning if he had permission (I'm still not sure he did but it's moot to my point).

If teams were penalized every time an assistant coach said something derogatory to a player, we'd have a zillion penalties a game. It happens a lot, including EVERY time there's a big hit in a game. Tons of Bengals coaches AND players came onto the field screaming after Bernard was hit, but there was no outcry for a penalty. Why? Because it was just words. If that play wasn't blown dead, it could've been a TD for the Steelers, yet no Steelers threw a fit about that either.

Agree to disagree. It is not common at all IMO for a coach to be on the field yelling at players of the opposing teams. Especially in the playoffs of a 1 point game with division rivals who have shown so much hate for one another. The rules allow for a flag and Porter should have been given one. Not doing so let the situation get further out of hand.

Pac Man got what he deserved for taking a volatile situation and making it worse by contacting the ref. You simply can't do that. And if he hadn't, the Steelers STILL would've been in range for a 50 yard field goal with about 20 seconds left to play with.

No doubt that Jones took the bait and allowed for a short FG. It would have been interesting to see a 50 yard FG in the rain with everything on the line. We'll never know.

At no point has anyone seen (or even said) Porter was screaming at anyone. He was probably talking trash like he always does, which is very, VERY common for coaches and players alike.

Again, why no outrage that all of the Bengals players and coaches were on the field throwing a temper tantrum after Bernard was hit? It happens. And it's not like Porter was out there during any random timeout... he was out there during an injury timeout that looked brutal, and again, it's often that coaches, assistant coaches, and players come out to check on guys who might be severely injured. He had something to say about it too, and Pac Man could've just talked back like the rest of the Bengals players were. No flag was thrown until Jones made contact with the ref and tried to hit Porter.

It wasn't raining anymore when Boswell might have attempted the 50 yarder, but that's not important anymore. They also had about 20 seconds to try and complete another short pass and spike it to set up a slightly shorter field goal. They only kicked on the next play because of Jones' penalty.

 

[3C's]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

You should probably look at the game again.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

On the NFL Network, Deion Sanders is defending Burfict.

When you want the opinion of the grand master "hitter" you call in Deion.

Or...

If there's any defender who knows what it looks like to try to avoid contact, it's Deion.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

So for those of us who didn't hear it, what did he say?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

Absolutely wrong. From all the TV angles.

I have the video right here. He was with the group helping Antonio back to the sideline (right behind them) surrounded by Bengals.

You also have lots of Bengal non-players on the field in the area as well.

Nothing really happens with Joey or the Bengals players until Burfct puts a hand on Brown who is being helped off the field...

and Burfct forcibly interferes with one of the men who is helping Antonio off.

You would have to have access to something else (not pacmans word lol) to say absolutely. And Cincy is lucky to not get more then 1 flag.

 

[3C's]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

You should probably look at the game again.

That's Porter standing right behind the trainers and Brown. Then Burfict walks up to say something to Porter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq17-qlHkkY&feature=youtu.be&t=9650

 

[The General]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

So for those of us who didn't hear it, what did he say?

He said that Porter was calling them #####es all game long and was out on the field no where near Brown talking to all the players. He said he thought Brown was faking and winked at him as he was taken off the field. The on Gio sent the game in the wrong direction and that the refs lost control. Thought the coach is absolutely coming back. Was not asked if he felt he lost control or what responsibility he takes. Was really interesting, could have been asked so much more.

 

[Pipes]

Seriously can 1 Steeler's fan admit Porter may have done something wrong? Jeez you guys are a sensitive bunch defending him like he's a saint.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

So for those of us who didn't hear it, what did he say?

He said that Porter was calling them #####es all game long and was out on the field no where near Brown talking to all the players. He said he thought Brown was faking and winked at him as he was taken off the field. The on Gio sent the game in the wrong direction and that the refs lost control. Thought the coach is absolutely coming back. Was not asked if he felt he lost control or what responsibility he takes. Was really interesting, could have been asked so much more.

 

[ThaPenguin]

With everyone throwing blame on Burfict, Jones, Hill and the refs, let's not ignore the absolutely horrible play call by Hue Jackson on the two-point try. What the hell was that play supposed to accomplish? When it happened, I immediately thought of last year's NFC Championship Game. Seattle clawed all the way back to take the lead and go up one, then Wilson threw that lollipop to Willson, which seemed important at the time, but became crucial when GB drove down and kicked a FG to tie at the end of regulation.

A better play call could have meant Steelers were playing to tie at the end. And if that game goes to OT with an injured Ben and no Brown, you have to like the Bengals odds.

I could be wrong, but it seemed AJ Green was unaware of the situation and obviously should have been on the field for the attempt. He headed to the sidelines when he more than likely should have stayed on the field. Maybe this led to scrambling at the last second and changing the play call?

Again, I may be way off on this, just seemed odd that he headed to the sidelines when his team was going for 2.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Seriously can 1 Steeler's fan admit Porter may have done something wrong? Jeez you guys are a sensitive bunch defending him like he's a saint.

He may have.

Nothing shows anything demonstrative though.

 

[George Jefferson Airplane]

"Jerry Porter gets paid six figures to be the trash talking coach." -Lebatard

 

[Buzzbait]

Seriously can 1 Steeler's fan admit Porter may have done something wrong? Jeez you guys are a sensitive bunch defending him like he's a saint.

He may have.

Nothing shows anything demonstrative though.

Oh good lord. Seriously?

Again no love for Jones and his actions. He got what he deserved but you are in complete denial regarding Porter and his part in how this played out.

 

[modogg]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

So for those of us who didn't hear it, what did he say?

He said that Porter was calling them #####es all game long and was out on the field no where near Brown talking to all the players. He said he thought Brown was faking and winked at him as he was taken off the field. The on Gio sent the game in the wrong direction and that the refs lost control. Thought the coach is absolutely coming back. Was not asked if he felt he lost control or what responsibility he takes. Was really interesting, could have been asked so much more.

I really hate Mr. Jones the person, quite a bit. But from rotoworld, he may not be completely wrong:

Antonio Brown - WR - Steelers
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's Gerry Dulac reports Antonio Brown (concussion) "should be able to play" Sunday against the Broncos.
Brown to a vicious hit from Vontaze Burfict with less than 20 seconds remaining in the Steelers' Wild Card win over the Bengals. The play resulted in a personal foul for Burfict as well as another for Adam Jones as Brown was being helped off the field. The two infractions set Pittsburgh up for the game-winning field goal. Brown was placed in the concussion protocol after the game, but he was reportedly laughing and joking with his teammates in the locker room. It is possible he avoided a concussion altogether. Brown's status will be updated throughout the week.

I've had plenty of concussions in my life, there usually isn't a ton of laughing and joking afterward

 

[Old Smiley]

Jene Bramel ‏@JeneBramel 6m6 minutes ago

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Ridiculous. Brown was unconscious before he hit the ground.

 

[Dizzy]

Seriously can 1 Steeler's fan admit Porter may have done something wrong? Jeez you guys are a sensitive bunch defending him like he's a saint.

Steelers fan. I admit that I have no idea what Joey Porter did. I'm sure he was jawing, "talkin' ####", but I haven't heard/seen reports what exactly was said. We can confirm however that Pac Man is still an uncontrollable idiot.

 

[The General]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

Absolutely wrong. From all the TV angles.

I have the video right here. He was with the group helping Antonio back to the sideline (right behind them) surrounded by Bengals.

You also have lots of Bengal non-players on the field in the area as well.

Nothing really happens with Joey or the Bengals players until Burfct puts a hand on Brown who is being helped off the field...

and Burfct forcibly interferes with one of the men who is helping Antonio off.

You would have to have access to something else (not pacmans word lol) to say absolutely. And Cincy is lucky to not get more then 1 flag.

I don't care who wins this game. Bengals players lost their minds in a crazy game, they lost. If anything I was rooting for Pitt because I have Ben and Brown in a postseason league.

Porter was talking crap though as I'm sure is happening all the time with him, especially in a game like this one. In this angle Brown must have just walked off the field because Brown is no where in the picture: Porter

If you come out on the field and you're Porter you have to S T F U, it's on you to not do anything if you are out there especially considering that you have been talking #### with these guys all game long. You are not a player.

Apparently he is going to get fined and if that part about him getting a game ball is true, that has to be made up I think, if not then oh man that's brutal.

 

[belljr]

Please. I've been knocked out unconscious and 1 hour later was back doing the same exact thing.

Dumb yes, but 20 years ago we didn't know any better.

 

[The General]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

So for those of us who didn't hear it, what did he say?

He said that Porter was calling them #####es all game long and was out on the field no where near Brown talking to all the players. He said he thought Brown was faking and winked at him as he was taken off the field. The on Gio sent the game in the wrong direction and that the refs lost control. Thought the coach is absolutely coming back. Was not asked if he felt he lost control or what responsibility he takes. Was really interesting, could have been asked so much more.

Best part was when he said Brown deserved a "grammy" for acting hurt.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Seriously can 1 Steeler's fan admit Porter may have done something wrong? Jeez you guys are a sensitive bunch defending him like he's a saint.

He may have.

Nothing shows anything demonstrative though.

Oh good lord. Seriously?

Again no love for Jones and his actions. He got what he deserved but you are in complete denial regarding Porter and his part in how this played out.

http://s12.postimg.org/pkudu1kal/JP_2_42_30.png

Here is Porter when they get Brown sitting up at 2:42:30 real time. Refs are there too.

 

[The General]

Seriously can 1 Steeler's fan admit Porter may have done something wrong? Jeez you guys are a sensitive bunch defending him like he's a saint.

He may have.

Nothing shows anything demonstrative though.

Come on

 

[belljr]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

So for those of us who didn't hear it, what did he say?

He said that Porter was calling them #####es all game long and was out on the field no where near Brown talking to all the players. He said he thought Brown was faking and winked at him as he was taken off the field. The on Gio sent the game in the wrong direction and that the refs lost control. Thought the coach is absolutely coming back. Was not asked if he felt he lost control or what responsibility he takes. Was really interesting, could have been asked so much more.

Best part was when he said Brown deserved a "grammy" for acting hurt.

 

[Steeler]

Seriously can 1 Steeler's fan admit Porter may have done something wrong? Jeez you guys are a sensitive bunch defending him like he's a saint.

Most Steeler fans in this thread said he was probably running his mouth - is that not good enough?

 

[knowledge dropper]

So now allegedly. Burfict spit on DiCastro and was yelling he put Brown to sleep.

I believe 1 of them

There is video from the 12-13 game of DiCastro gouging the eyes of Gilberry in a pile. He is one of the biggest instigators out there. The league will have to step in to cool off this rivalry. Someone is going to get killed. Both teams are out of control.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Seriously can 1 Steeler's fan admit Porter may have done something wrong? Jeez you guys are a sensitive bunch defending him like he's a saint.

He may have.

Nothing shows anything demonstrative though.

Oh good lord. Seriously?

Again no love for Jones and his actions. He got what he deserved but you are in complete denial regarding Porter and his part in how this played out.

http://s12.postimg.org/pkudu1kal/JP_2_42_30.png

Here is Porter when they get Brown sitting up at 2:42:30 real time. Refs are there too.

5 seconds later Burfict walks over and gets into Porters face... but neither is being demonstrative. Just talking (though its likely smack).

They get Brown up moments later and start walking him. And Marvin yells to his players "DONT BE AROUND HIM!" ...as in Brown.

 

[The General]

Seriously can 1 Steeler's fan admit Porter may have done something wrong? Jeez you guys are a sensitive bunch defending him like he's a saint.

He may have.

Nothing shows anything demonstrative though.

Oh good lord. Seriously?

Again no love for Jones and his actions. He got what he deserved but you are in complete denial regarding Porter and his part in how this played out.

http://s12.postimg.org/pkudu1kal/JP_2_42_30.png

Here is Porter when they get Brown sitting up at 2:42:30 real time. Refs are there too.

Sure he came out there and was with Brown. The hit and Browns fall to the ground looked really bad. After that picture I'm sure Porter was minding his own business

 

[Dizzy]

It's a classic "Serenity Now" episode with the Cincy defense.