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No it’s terrible schtickUnfortunately it isn’t. As I write this the governor of Texas just spoke, offering thoughts and prayers (and nothing else.)
No it’s terrible schtickUnfortunately it isn’t. As I write this the governor of Texas just spoke, offering thoughts and prayers (and nothing else.)
Isn’t a ban a solution too?There are plenty of people that are coming up with solutions. Most of them are just ban, ban, ban.
@SFBayDuck had some nice suggestions.
I've tried to find compromises within my solutions.
BTW, if you're going to have someone on ignore, you should keep their name out your mouth. Otherwise, it looks like you don't have the willpower to ignore.
I don't think it'd be all that difficult to weed at least some of these people out through background checks.
Now you’re blaming CatholicismThis is scary to them. They are breeding like rabbits and the white man can't keep up the pace.
Bump for @SHIZNITTTT. This is the second time that I’ve seen someone make this statement and I’ve yet to get an answer.What values don’t Hispanics share with us?
Can you unpack this? HTF you get white self loathing guy from a mass shooting thread I can't wait to hear.Love the white self loathing guy schtick, never gets old
Obviously the world would be a much better place if they didn't exist.
But, why weed one out if we can weed them all out by banning guns?
Give us a few options to choose fronBump for @SHIZNITTTT. This is the second time that I’ve seen someone make this statement and I’ve yet to get an answer.
A few of these guys have tried to use bombs in these attacks without success. Turns out it's hard to go this route.I didn’t understand your question, I was answering differently. If you’re asking where whackos will go when they can’t get a gun - I guess I don’t know. Nor do I care. How about we deal with that when we find out.
It is.Isn’t a ban a solution too?
There is one guy in here keeps leaning on the WHITE GUY.Can you unpack this? HTF you get white self loathing guy from a mass shooting thread I can't wait to hear.
And yet, Trump supporters still wonder why we don't always have the highest opinion of them.
Sure. But, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.Obviously the world would be a much better place if they didn't exist.
Are a vast majority of mass shooters of this ilk white dudes?There is one guy in here keeps leaning on the WHITE GUY.
Oh the didn’t shoot him , of course WHITE GUY
I have no idea! The Hispanics I’ve encountered are good people with very similar ideas and goals as my suburban community. I have no idea what the objection to them are.Give us a few options to choose fron
For starters, they would make a decision to comply with the ban or not.This begs the question. If guns were banned, what would these people do?
Sounds like a plan. And let’s start staffing the agencies fully. And allow research into gun violence to be government funded. Let’s deal with the issue, with all plans of attack open.There have been a lot of different things discussed. When I suggest that banning assault weapons won't decrease the number of mass shootings and will lead to more bans. People here say, lets try and see what happens. By contrast, everyone here seems to agree on universal background checks. Why shouldn't we start there and see what happens before moving on to a ban?
Me too. There are good ones and bad ones, just like whites,blacks & asians.I have no idea! The Hispanics I’ve encountered are good people with very similar ideas and goals as my suburban community. I have no idea what the objection to them are.
Well, a ban will and does work since a ban has been done before. A Republican President started banning semi-auto weapons that did not have a sporting purpose. Congress banned assault guns in 1994 for ten years before the ban simply lapsed. The country and the people would be far better off without assault guns floating around, and my personal wish for all guns to be banned. Ironic, but what harm would banning assault guns do?There have been a lot of different things discussed. When I suggest that banning assault weapons won't decrease the number of mass shootings and will lead to more bans. People here say, lets try and see what happens. By contrast, everyone here seems to agree on universal background checks. Why shouldn't we start there and see what happens before moving on to a ban?
Of courseCan't we just make it a little more difficult for disturbed people to get their hands on assault weapons? We can all get on board with that, can't we? Can't we?
beats me? I think that angry people look to blame anyone who looks or speaks differently from themselves.Bump for @SHIZNITTTT. This is the second time that I’ve seen someone make this statement and I’ve yet to get an answer.
Somehow, I think you believe I am against the bolded?Sounds like a plan. And let’s start staffing the agencies fully. And allow research into gun violence to be government funded. Let’s deal with the issue, with all plans of attack open.
OK, great. Let's do it already.Of course
Contrary to what you read here no one here has posted any different
Well, no one in Washington listens to me so...yeahOK, great. Let's do it already.
Looks like most studies didn't find a noticeable impact on crime during the ban.Well, a ban will and does work since a ban has been done before. A Republican President started banning semi-auto weapons that did not have a sporting purpose. Congress banned assault guns in 1994 for ten years before the ban simply lapsed. The country and the people would be far better off without assault guns floating around, and my personal wish for all guns to be banned. Ironic, but what harm would banning assault guns do?
Harm? None. Maybe there are some people that rely on an assault rifle to protect their livestock. Personally, I have concerns as to some of the proposed terminology that people are using to define assault rifles. A few of my hunting rifles would be caught up in that net.Well, a ban will and does work since a ban has been done before. A Republican President started banning semi-auto weapons that did not have a sporting purpose. Congress banned assault guns in 1994 for ten years before the ban simply lapsed. The country and the people would be far better off without assault guns floating around, and my personal wish for all guns to be banned. Ironic, but what harm would banning assault guns do?
They do seem to values lowered 1964 chevies more than us.I have no idea! The Hispanics I’ve encountered are good people with very similar ideas and goals as my suburban community. I have no idea what the objection to them are.
I have no idea how you feel. I was just thinking of some of the approaches that republicans and the gun lobby have put in place to stymie real investigation into gun violence solutions. If we are going to take an honest look at it, we need to stop putting up barriers.Somehow, I think you believe I am against the bolded?
I suggested a .05% wellness tax on all gun and alcohol sales in this country. That would be an estimated $15 bil annually to fund research, mental health programs, staffing, etc.
Let's be clear. There have been a lot of gun regulations in the last 2 years, than I've seen in most of my life. They just aren't happening on the federal level. Many states are enacting laws around background checks, magazine capacity, storage requirements and assault weapons. I think this is the best way to handle this. Montana may not need the same gun regulations as someone in NYC.OK, great. Let's do it already.
I don't recall reading that or hearing that in this conversation.Yea that damn media always saying how immigrants are rapist, murderers, and drug runners.
We'd be so much better off without them!
You can’t have a patchwork of state regulations and not expect interstate commerce to undermine state regulation.Let's be clear. There have been a lot of gun regulations in the last 2 years, than I've seen in most of my life. They just aren't happening on the federal level. Many states are enacting laws around background checks, magazine capacity, storage requirements and assault weapons. I think this is the best way to handle this. Montana may not need the same gun regulations as someone in NYC.
Same can be applied to international commerce.You can’t have a patchwork of state regulations and not expect interstate commerce to undermine state regulation.
We obviously need to go further and we need it to happen quickly. How many more mass shootings are we going to have until enough is enough?Let's be clear. There have been a lot of gun regulations in the last 2 years, than I've seen in most of my life. They just aren't happening on the federal level. Many states are enacting laws around background checks, magazine capacity, storage requirements and assault weapons. I think this is the best way to handle this. Montana may not need the same gun regulations as someone in NYC.
Here is your answer.We obviously need to go further and we need it to happen quickly. How many more mass shootings are we going to have until enough is enough?
Law enforcement was analyzing the shooter's document before the shooting began but were unable to verify the author’s identity or potential target in advance.
The first reply to the posting on 8chan was “hello FBI.”
You said we need to go further and quickly. Bucky's post shows that the police were close to identifying this shooter. Perhaps another hour or another day would have given them time to prevent this shooting.Huh?
I agree with you that the amount of guns is the bigger issue, no question. As long as there are as many guns as there are in this country, and the ease of access to them remains, nothing will change. I’m just advocating for mental health as well. I realize that the mental health part of the equation is much tougher to analyze and diagnose.Again, statistically people with a mental illness are FAR more likely to hurt themselves than others. I don't think they are both correct with the same implications to the mass shooting issue.
Interesting that the overt (stealthy) and covert (Jon_mx) trump supporters are keeping a low profile tonight. There’s no defending their boy today.
Doesn't seem random to me. It's usually a young guy who has no prospects in life and can't get laid. Very detectable.You said we need to go further and quickly. Bucky's post shows that the police were close to identifying this shooter. Perhaps another hour or another day would have given them time to prevent this shooting.
I think you took my post as responding to your question of how many more mass shootings. We've already agreed that zero is the number we all want. But, do we know if there will be 1 more mass shooting this year or 100 more? At this point it's random, but not undetectable.
It’s a lot harder to secretly manufacture a gun than secretly harvest a plant.Does anyone think the war on guns would be any different than the war on drugs?
Since Nixon declared war on drugs in 1971, the United States has spent roughly $1 trillion on the war on drugs. The end result? Let's legalize drugs.
That’s a pretty sobering statistic.
That just means the end product has a higher price.It’s a lot harder to secretly manufacture a gun than secretly harvest a plant.
How about just the “pew pew” ones. Keep the bolt action rifles, shotguns and pistols? Seems pretty fair!It is.
Is there any compromise to the millions of law abiding gun owners in this country? Those like myself that keep their guns under lock and key. Those that go to work, pay their taxes, never committed a crime their entire life? We know that there are people in this country that are filled with hate. They share it on social media. We know there are people in this country that are mentally unstable. We know there are people in this country that shouldn't be allowed to own firearms due to past criminal history. With all that knowledge, we can't figure out a better way to determine who should or shouldn't have a gun. So, the answer is to take them away from everyone.
New Zealand elected, Jacinda Ardern, an agnostic. Her response to the Christchurch attack, both verbal and policy-wise, was excellent. "They are us." "I... still have faith in humanity..." And the law banning most semi-automatic weapons.And can we stop electing leaders whose first inclination is to evoke the invisible man in the sky when a mass murder like this occurs? That press conference, at least the part when the governor spoke, was embarrassing.