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Week 11 who should I start thread **OFFICIAL** (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Chaka
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Thanks, and here's the catch: I do have Waller and Goedert but can play them both (one in flex). My WRs are a bit of a mess so I have been rolling with both.
sho nuff
Footballguy
That is who I have now. Gallup actually a free agent. If have to drop Mooney for him. I like Mooney ROS better so likely keeping…but saw Cooper being out now and was intrigued.
TedyBruschi
Footballguy
Appreciate all you guys do in this thread:
Need 1 for flex:
12 team 0.5 PPR
AP vs HOU - decent gamescript and hopeful for a TD plunge.
Toney @ TB - should be playing from behind but only if Shepard is ruled out by Sun AM.
Aiyuk @ JAX - hate this guy but he always scores a TD on my bench.
Thanks!
Need 1 for flex:
12 team 0.5 PPR
AP vs HOU - decent gamescript and hopeful for a TD plunge.
Toney @ TB - should be playing from behind but only if Shepard is ruled out by Sun AM.
Aiyuk @ JAX - hate this guy but he always scores a TD on my bench.
Thanks!
D question. Need to pick one from:
* BALT @CHI -- Don't love this matchup for Balt but they have had some time to stew over the Miami debacle. Fields is playing better but apparently Balt blitzes at a high rate and he hasn't handled it all that well. May be a bit rainy in Chitown as well.
* PHI vs NO -- NO minus Kamara, two starting lineman, and T. Hill banged up. Siemian has been ok, but has had many balls defended. May only be a matter of time ints follow. Fear is NO will just run at will at PHI's run D weakness. That said, this could be a low scoring game so there could be a nice floor here.
* LAC vs PIT -- PIT has all kinds of injuries and Ben could be a bit rusty. If Ben is ruled out this could be a no brainer. N. Harris probably going to get 30 carries (and be successful against this run D).
* GB @MN -- Trying to talk myself into this one. GB a real good real life D. Seems to be hitting their stride. Could see GB milking the clock and running Dillon too with Rodgers toe issue. Cousins @ home though and tends to check down vs. throw deep.
* NYJ vs MIA -- Hard to go this route after Indy ran at will against this team. Feel like MIA over valued after last week.
Note: Avoiding BALT would allow me to pick up another D with better matchups down the road for playoffs (and keeping PHI who has some great matchups coming).
Which D?
Thanks
* BALT @CHI -- Don't love this matchup for Balt but they have had some time to stew over the Miami debacle. Fields is playing better but apparently Balt blitzes at a high rate and he hasn't handled it all that well. May be a bit rainy in Chitown as well.
* PHI vs NO -- NO minus Kamara, two starting lineman, and T. Hill banged up. Siemian has been ok, but has had many balls defended. May only be a matter of time ints follow. Fear is NO will just run at will at PHI's run D weakness. That said, this could be a low scoring game so there could be a nice floor here.
* LAC vs PIT -- PIT has all kinds of injuries and Ben could be a bit rusty. If Ben is ruled out this could be a no brainer. N. Harris probably going to get 30 carries (and be successful against this run D).
* GB @MN -- Trying to talk myself into this one. GB a real good real life D. Seems to be hitting their stride. Could see GB milking the clock and running Dillon too with Rodgers toe issue. Cousins @ home though and tends to check down vs. throw deep.
* NYJ vs MIA -- Hard to go this route after Indy ran at will against this team. Feel like MIA over valued after last week.
Note: Avoiding BALT would allow me to pick up another D with better matchups down the road for playoffs (and keeping PHI who has some great matchups coming).
Which D?
Thanks
PPR league. Need to start two of these guys.
* Darrel Williams vs DAL -- No word yet on if CEL will be activated. Even if activated I doubt he's getting the lion's share of the carries. Highest O/U on the slate. Williams should get catches at minimum.
* M. Ingram @PHI -- Kamara out. Good news for Ingram. A couple offensive lineman are out. Bad news for Ingram. PHI run D is not that great at all. Good news for Ingram. He'll get a ton of touches in a game where both teams probably want to run, run, run.
* M. Pittman @BUF -- Hard to sit this guy. He's breaking out. However, this may be the toughest matchup for WRs around. It's in BUF as well where the weather may not be that great. Could be more of a floor game.
Which 2?
Thanks
* Darrel Williams vs DAL -- No word yet on if CEL will be activated. Even if activated I doubt he's getting the lion's share of the carries. Highest O/U on the slate. Williams should get catches at minimum.
* M. Ingram @PHI -- Kamara out. Good news for Ingram. A couple offensive lineman are out. Bad news for Ingram. PHI run D is not that great at all. Good news for Ingram. He'll get a ton of touches in a game where both teams probably want to run, run, run.
* M. Pittman @BUF -- Hard to sit this guy. He's breaking out. However, this may be the toughest matchup for WRs around. It's in BUF as well where the weather may not be that great. Could be more of a floor game.
Which 2?
Thanks
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BoltNlava
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5 D's? sorry ..I'm lucky to pick between 2 ..are you streaming? If you are how many in your league?
Not crazy about any of them but might lean Balt with it seeming like a low scoring game on Chicago's end. No on Chargers as all you have to do is run right at them all game. Jets/MIA seems like a slog fest so it might play but my gut says they score at will against each other. Green bay/Vikes? Who knows? If Cousins shows up(if) it might be a barn burner. PHI/NO is a pick em to me. Seems like PHI just runs and keeps hurts hidden from flaws that are obvious. Hurts may run all over them.
If you want PHI later - then PHI. If not then roll with Balt.
Chaka
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
To be fair I ranked Harris above Pitts too so I was kinda right?
This situation definitely requires waiting on Mitchell's status, if he's out Wilson is a no-brainer. If Mitchell starts I wouldn't play Wilson at all.
I think either Toney or Golladay will outperform Sanders and Collins but I have no earthly idea which one. Who knows, maybe both. But it's a coin toss between them.
Chris Carson is out for the year and despite rushing only 10 times the good news is the Seahawks only called 11 rush plays giving a little hope that Collins could return to the 15-17 touch output of weeks past. But he isn't a factor in the passing game and hasn't really done a lot with his touches overall. He's...competent not special.
Sanders had a great four game run before the bye but has been a bust in the three games after. Beasley seems to have surpassed him as the #2 WR in the offense and Beasley is going to play. Sanders is certainly capable of a good game, even a big game but his floor is zero.
Depending on Wilson's status I think you either shoot the moon and go with both Golladay & Toney, or you play it a little safer and go with Collins and flip a coin between Giants WRs
Chaka
Footballguy
A lot obviously depends on the status of other players.
CEH out definitely play DWilliams. Mitchell out definitely play Wilson.
If CEH or Mitchell play then I think Gibson is probably the guy.
If both CEH and Mitchell play then Jacobs comes into play. I would love to push Jacobs higher but that team we just have no idea what the Raiders are going to bring to the table RoS.
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Chaka
Footballguy
Panthers pass D is daunting but I can't see sitting McLauren in most any PPR format, particularly as I believe Samuel is going to miss this game.
The Raiders pass D has been pretty solid, mostly because teams can run on them pretty easily. I could be tempted to roll out Gibson over Tee but I really like Tee's consistency and volume even if he seems to be allergic to the end zone.
rockaction
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
PPR? Stuff like that matters.
Yeah, that's interesting.
I like that Gallup came back after a long absence and immediately got 5 targets. Cooper being out is also a bump for him as is a possibly high scoring game. There is no reason not to run him out there but for the fact that he is still the #2 WR on Dallas whereas Mooney is the #1 WR in Chicago, a much lower passing volume offense.
But Chicago does have a surprisingly tasty matchup in Baltimore.
ETA: @sho nuff I think I am flip flopping a bit on this one. It's really close but Gallup does have more upside IMO and Chi/Bal may be an ugly game.
Gallup>Mooney
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Chaka
Footballguy
If Aiyuk always scores a TD on your bench then he has probably been in your lineup too often.
Jokes aside, he has been trending up but is it enough? It sure looks like the Deebo & Mitchell show in San Fran "NOW FEATURING KITTLE TOO!!!"
The problem is can you have any more confidence in your other two options? AP may be good for a goal line plunge, maybe two. Who knows? But he is a big liability in PPR formats being so TD dependent.
We all love Toney on paper but he hasn't done much on the field to instill confidence in any sort of consistency.
Yeah it's a tough call. I like to err on the side of being a little aggressive in these close decisions so
Toney>Aiyuk>ADP
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Considering your RoS plan, Philly is definitely an option here. They don't really have a lot of sacks or turnovers and Sean Payton can will an offense to 250 yards passing and 100 yards rushing and a couple TDs so it's hardly a sure thing but they are not a bad option to go against.
I can't see starting the Chargers at all. Najee will run at will, is your scoring bonus for limiting passing yardage so big as to cede the rushing bonuses outright? Chargers also aren't racking up any scoring bonuses and you may want to check the status of Joey Bosa.
Green Bay is the best defense on your list by a decent margin but I agree that Minnesota is a tough team to get defense bonuses on. They can run, pass & score even when having a bad game.
Can't recommend Jets D ATM for obvious reasons.
Phi>Balt/GB>LAC/NYJ
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
So you're saying you'd put Wilson ahead of both Gibson and Jacobs?
Not trying to be That Guy who asks for advice and then immediately second guesses the people who gave it to him, but I worry we're projecting a little too much with Wilson. He had some decent games last year, he'll likely have the backfield to himself and he has a decent (but not great) matchup and a likely positive gamescript. All points in his favor. But he's also a journeyman RB who has never been a consistent starter. Not saying he couldn't blow up; I just think there's a wider range of outcomes than many people are assuming.
Then again, I may also just be trying to rationalize the fact that in another league I dropped him for Foreman, and have been second-guessing my decision ever since.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Devonta Smith or Jeff Wilson Jr. PPR.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Henderson on the BYE. CMC / Mixon in my 2 RB spots. Lost Ridley, then traded for and lost Woods. 
Fortunately I had some WR depth. This week is tricky though.
Start 3 WR & 1 O-FLX of these 5 players
DJ Moore
Higgins
Mooney
Gallup (no Amari Cooper)
Bateman
Right now I have Bateman as the odd man out. Higgins/Moore automatic, Mooney has been on an upward trend & ARob is likely out. Gallup should go off as the Cowboys WRs in a passing game--favorable shootout (I hope), and Bateman is coming off illness and playing in the rain & slop.
Any reason I should start Bateman over the other 4?
TIA
Fortunately I had some WR depth. This week is tricky though.
Start 3 WR & 1 O-FLX of these 5 players
DJ Moore
Higgins
Mooney
Gallup (no Amari Cooper)
Bateman
Right now I have Bateman as the odd man out. Higgins/Moore automatic, Mooney has been on an upward trend & ARob is likely out. Gallup should go off as the Cowboys WRs in a passing game--favorable shootout (I hope), and Bateman is coming off illness and playing in the rain & slop.
Any reason I should start Bateman over the other 4?
TIA
Chaka
Footballguy
Gibson was highly drafted in most leagues for a reason and he's coming of a big game against a tough opponent. Maybe he's finally healthy, in which case he should be an auto-start, right? I won't try to dissuade you from that. It's a perfectly valid decision.ignatiusjreilly said:
I like Wilson if he starts because I like the starting RB in San Francisco in a good matchup, certainly better than Gibson's. But, yes absolutely he is a journeyman and outside his big TD numbers in the last four games of 2020 he has been below average. No argument benching him for Gibson.
Jacobs is a different story, his usage is simply too inconsistent and his production after his rookie season is declining.
I have no problem with
Gibson>Wilson>Jacobs
Chaka
Footballguy
Obviously if Mitchell plays this is a non-decision.Gottabesweet said:
@ignatiusjreilly has me rethinking Wilson a little. I like the SF running game but that is hardly a lock, particularly when dealing with a team that is capable of being the Bills to 6 points.
I wish Devonta got more consistent targets but he's on a great two game run against better pass defenses (on paper).
Tough call in my book but I think Philly will have trouble running
Devonta>Wilson
Chaka
Footballguy
Not that I can think of.Henderson on the BYE. CMC / Mixon in my 2 RB spots. Lost Ridley, then traded for and lost Woods.
Fortunately I had some WR depth. This week is tricky though.
Start 3 WR & 1 O-FLX of these 5 players
DJ Moore
Higgins
Mooney
Gallup (no Amari Cooper)
Bateman
Right now I have Bateman as the odd man out. Higgins/Moore automatic, Mooney has been on an upward trend & ARob is likely out. Gallup should go off as the Cowboys WRs in a passing game--favorable shootout (I hope), and Bateman is coming off illness and playing in the rain & slop.
Any reason I should start Bateman over the other 4?
TIA
I mean, I could make an argument for him. Heck just by random chance he will probably outproduce one of those guys but that doesn't mean it would be the correct decision to start him.
Chaka
Footballguy
IMO it takes serious stones to bench a guy who got 39 opportunities, let me say that again, 39 opportunities in the first game after the HC took over play calling duties from the OC.
I get that it's a tough matchup against an angry team but...39 opportunities.
Swift>Wilson
Mind you this isn't a firm commitment to Swift but that kind of usage...man. I can't ignore it.
Pittman is a stud but Waddle isn't a slouch. He has 8 more targets than Pittman on the season, 15 more targets over the last five games. Although only 7 more catches over the last five.
And I may have missed something when I just did a quick check but it looks like the Bills have given up two total passing TDs to opposing WRs. Week one to Dionte Johnson and last week to Elijah Moore.
Wow.
The Jets have given up 10.
I would argue that the Colts may be forced to pass more if it turns into a shootout in Buffalo. The counter argument is if they have a chance to win then Jonathan Taylor will be heavily featured.
OTOH to say Miami struggles running the ball is a huge understatement. They're worst in the league. The Jets are 29th against the run, they've given up 177 or more yards to three RBs. So maybe Miami becomes... competent? Either way Waddle has an opportunity here. I've talked myself into
Waddle>Pittman
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ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Chris Harris of Harris Football talks about "Category 1" vs "Category 2" questions. The latter is the stuff that's simply un-knowable. I would put "Will Wilson step in and be as good as Mitchell?" firmly in Category 2. My advice would be to go with your gut and don't beat yourself up if it goes badly.
Chaka
Footballguy
PPR? That info helps.
Obviously depends on CEH & Mitchell. If both are out
Moore>Williams>Wilson>Jacobs
Bump Jacobs if either CEH or Moore play. Of both play
Moore>Jacobs/Williams>Wilson
Chaka said:
Yeah ditching any ideas of LAC. Big Ben is playing. The more I think about it the more GB could lose that game @MN.
It's really down to PHI or BALT D.
I feel like PHI is the decent floor option. Just don't see the NO/PHI game being a high scorer. Both teams want to run the ball. BALT D option could have zero floor with an improving Fields and Montgomery back, but a really high ceiling if mistakes are made. A. Robinson is doubtful too and Mooney is questionable. If both those guys out I'd probably lean towards BALT.
Damn. Toss up. The fact that I could use PHI D later has me leaning slightly in that direction.
Down Under
Footballguy
0.5 PPR, 10 team leagues
For this week's WR2 - M. Brown (Bal @ Chi) or M. Gallup (Dal @ KC) (was leaning Brown, but Gallup w/o Cooper in a potential barn-burner is tempting
Looking to the future to pickup for needed depth at WR - Bateman or Jeudy (I would drop B. Edwards)? At RB - Z. Moss or J. Wilson (dropping Edwards again, I have better on bench for WR)
TIA
For this week's WR2 - M. Brown (Bal @ Chi) or M. Gallup (Dal @ KC) (was leaning Brown, but Gallup w/o Cooper in a potential barn-burner is tempting
Looking to the future to pickup for needed depth at WR - Bateman or Jeudy (I would drop B. Edwards)? At RB - Z. Moss or J. Wilson (dropping Edwards again, I have better on bench for WR)
TIA
Chaka
Footballguy
IDK you may be overthinking Green Bay. They're definitely a better IRL defense than fantasy defense but still, they are the best defense of your options.
Important point about Philly. They had six sacks against Detroit and 12 in their other nine games. Green Bay has 24 sacks on the season.
They have nine forced turnovers total which is tied for 26th worst in the league. Green Bay is sixth with 16.
Green Bay D is third in total yards, Philly is 14th. GB is 3rd in points allowed, Phi is 14th.
They have given up 300+ fewer passing yards, 100 fewer rushing yards & 51 fewer points. And they have both played the Lions once. They are just the better defense.
I also worry that the RoS schedule isn't as nice as it appears on paper. Those NFC H2H games seldom play out how you expect on paper.
HOWEVER!!! Philly does have three defensive TDs and GB has none, which is why they are out separated by four magic football points in my league.
And New Orleans wothout Kamara and both OTs, at home is a better matchup this week than Minnesota on the road. I mean Sean Payton is a genius but he can only do so much, right?
That's all I got. Good luck.
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Chaka
Footballguy
I have trouble benching Marquise Brown. Guy can salvage a bad game in a hurry.
Gallup is definitely poised for a good game but he's still the #3 offensive weapon (Zeke, CeeDee) in Dallas. Brown is the #1a/b in Baltimore with Mark Andrews.
I can see this being a difficult call but I worry that it is overthinking a little bit. I mean, Dalton Shultz could suddenly step up for all we know.
Marquise>Gallup
I guess between Bateman and Jeudy I lean Bateman by a small margin. Jeudy is probably a better talent but there are so many options in Denver with Sutton, Patrick, Fant and both RBs that is likely to be very streaky all year. Good option if you are looking for a home run and can withstand a donut.
Bateman gets very consistent usage 6, 6, 8 & 8 targets. He hasn't demonstrated a huge ceiling yet but he does seem to be the clear 3rd offensive weapon in Baltimore. With that defense playing the way they are, Bateman has some value RoS.
Bateman>Jeudy RoS
Wilson only has value if Mitchell has a long term injury. Moss can find the end zone any given week and has at least as much value as Wilson if they both become full time starters.
Moss>Wilson RoS
need2know
Footballguy
PPR league. Need one:
* Darrel Williams vs DAL -- No word yet on if CEL will be activated. Even if activated I doubt he's getting the lion's share of the carries. Highest O/U on the slate. Williams should get catches at minimum. Ceiling is high, but floor is low if CEL is suddenly back and acting as the starter.
* M. Pittman @BUF -- Hard to sit this guy. He's breaking out. However, this may be the toughest matchup for WRs around. It's in BUF as well where the weather may not be that great. And for whatever reason, Pittman can't crack more than 6 targets a game. Could be more of a floor game. All that said, BUF hasn't really played many tough offenses.
Which 2?
Thanks
* Darrel Williams vs DAL -- No word yet on if CEL will be activated. Even if activated I doubt he's getting the lion's share of the carries. Highest O/U on the slate. Williams should get catches at minimum. Ceiling is high, but floor is low if CEL is suddenly back and acting as the starter.
* M. Pittman @BUF -- Hard to sit this guy. He's breaking out. However, this may be the toughest matchup for WRs around. It's in BUF as well where the weather may not be that great. And for whatever reason, Pittman can't crack more than 6 targets a game. Could be more of a floor game. All that said, BUF hasn't really played many tough offenses.
Which 2?
Thanks
Down Under
Footballguy
I still like Williams in the flex, esp in CEH's first game back. I expect Williams to get say 1/3 runs and most of the passes. Should be a shootout, unless Dal really is that good and KC struggles again, in which case, never mind. But Williams should still get his touches either way.
Agree it's a tough game for Pittman and he's not a shoo-in top 5 start. His QB is regressing. May be a low-scoring game (not many scoring chances for Indy WRs).
Whoah...this has me re-thinking D. Williams. Not surprised CEL is active, but starting?
Ed Werder
@WerderEdESPN
#Chiefs running back Clyde Edwards-Helaire will be activated off IR as
@JamesPalmerTV
reported. A source tells me he will be prepared to start tomorrow’s game against the #Cowboys at Arrowhead Stadium. Darrel Williams will also have a role.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
Could go either way with Hollywood and Cooper out, but I see the Ravens/Bears game as a more grind it out type than a potential shootout with Dallas/KC. Thus lean towards Gallup.
Please see mine.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I like Gallup in this choice - Bad secondary, potential shoot out, weather is not a factor.
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