Burrow. I might have had some pause on this if Chargers canned Staley and opened the job up for Payton but that looks less likely now.
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Another situation were I've got a team with both guys so have mulled this before.
ETN by a lot for me due to Dobbins still not looking right and having never been a fan of RB's in this Ravens/Lamar offense. Now Dobbins is already entering the last year of his contract but not banking on him leaving for an unknown destination.
Hot Sauce Guy
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Just thinking out loud - not like Houston is setting Young up for a ton of success either - without naming specific teams, I’ll just say that Stroud could be going to a more win-now situation.Not sure how you can endorse anyone landing in indy right now. That OL will get him killed if they don't address it in the off-season and their WR corps could be a lot better.I’m lucky (I hope) and am drafting both (1, 2, 3, 4) but knee-jerk imma go with Young. He’s got more mobility, and while we didn’t see it a ton in college, the ability is there, and IMO could develop for him. he doesn’t need to be Fields (and won’t be) but if he can become a 3-5 point rushing QB per week that should elevate hisFF floor enough to make his passing accuracy & arm relevant in FF.
Stroud has the size, a great arm, makes good decisions and isn’t a statue, so he’s perhaps a better RL QB than Young, but with a lower FF ceiling. He can also roll out and make plays on the run, but he’s not going to be a 5+ point rushing QB (at least I don’t think he will).
That all said, landing spot is going to be everything. Pretty sure Young will be a Texan (and IMO they’re gonna draft WRs early too) so that’s a tough situation.
If Stroud lands in INDY or CAR, or Seattle he could be the better win-now prospect.
Like I said, I’m taking both so I’m rooting for them both to be good. But Young, despite his size, looks like he could be very good. His size does worry me though.
Let’s say NYG dumps Danny Dimes and trades up to take stroud. That’s a situation where he’s playing for Dabol & develops. NYG also doesn’t have a great OL or top WRs, but I’d take that situation over HOU.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
ETN for me by a lot.
Baltimore is a RB wasteland with THE biggest vulture QB in the NFL, and while they’re seemingly devoid of top receiving talent, they refuse to throw to the RBs (because LJax usually takes off and runs instead of dumping off)
ETN has had an up & down season, but 2023 looks bright - hopefully some investment in OL in the draft, Ridley joining an already very solid receiving corps, and another year removed from the foot injury - IMO he has a shot at a top 5 RB season next year.
Dobbins is a talented back. I like him a lot. His situation is a killer. And I wouldn’t be shocked to see BAL draft yet another RB on day 2 or3.
Boston
Footballguy
Taylor...ACL is the tie-breaker for me.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Barkley vs KWIII
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
If you had Hall, would you deal him straight up for Taylor?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Barkley. And I’d hope he goes to a better team in the offs.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Tee Higgins or ARSB
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Seen Hall and Bijan mentioned already, but how about...
Breece Hall or Bijan Robinson
Breece Hall or Bijan Robinson
massraider
Footballguy
Hurts gets zero love
Not true. Most people think he's great, including me. But Fields can be great too assuming the Bears get him some good receiving options. Hence saying it's a "tough one"
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Bijan, and I don’t care what team he’s on.
Generational talent. Imma take him 1.01 as a statement, and can’t wait.
The Hall owner offered him to me for 1.01 and 1.04, and I was baffled. He told me Hall was worth more than just the 1.01, and even with a blowed up knee he was “easily” worth 2x 1sts.
Ok, maybe he is. He’s not worth two of *my* 1sts. lol
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This is rough. I’ve read reports that Richardson has the tools of Josh Allen, but may be a “2 year project”.
I’m not sure I can wait 2 years to see if he’s a complete bust, but if he falls to 1.10 or 2.01 I’ll probably have to at least consider him as a gamble on upside.
Lance may be Purdy’s backup next year - he might well develop into that Konami code QB as a post-hype sleeper. I have to think SF will keep giving him chances to win the job.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
True, but they’re also both old and injury prone. And we’re saying dynasty, so…
If the Chargers draft a JSN, that helps Herbert’s cause.
Boston
Footballguy
I do and I would...in general I would rather not deal with players coming back from ACLs if I don't have to...if I have a legit way to get out of it (like a player of Taylor's caliber) I will let someone else assume the risk...not a foolproof strategy but one I stay pretty true to.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
That's a tough one. Going ARSB with Higgins having Chase as the deciding factorTee Higgins or ARSB
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I offered the Taylor owner (who’s a Jags fan) ETN, ARSB, and a 1.08 & 2.01 early this season and he rejected it.
And now I’m glad he did. I like Taylor, but yeah - Indy is a rough team right now.
I’d probably rather have Hall, but I understand where you’re coming from with the injury. I have Hall in a 16 team dynasty & I’ll be hoping for a quick recovery.
Boston
Footballguy
Tee Higgins or ARSB
Give me Higgins...he is tied in with a stud QB for a while...Goff is fine for fantasy purposes, but he is not at Burrow's level and not sure how long he will be there...while Higgins does have Chase, Jameson will be a full go next year for Detroit.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
What if they draft Stroud to sit behind Goff for a year?Tee Higgins or ARSB
Give me Higgins...he is tied in with a stud QB for a while...Goff is fine for fantasy purposes, but he is not at Burrow's level and not sure how long he will be there...while Higgins does have Chase, Jameson will be a full go next year for Detroit.
I’ve seen a number of mocks with this happening.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
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Isaiah Pacheco or Alexander Mattison?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Right now Taylor
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’ll take Lamb, but it’s very close.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Pacheco, but both may be unusable in the near future, depending on the draft. RB position changes that quickly.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
In dynasty it is a marathon, not a sprint.What if they draft Stroud to sit behind Goff for a year?Tee Higgins or ARSB
Give me Higgins...he is tied in with a stud QB for a while...Goff is fine for fantasy purposes, but he is not at Burrow's level and not sure how long he will be there...while Higgins does have Chase, Jameson will be a full go next year for Detroit.
I’ve seen a number of mocks with this happening.
I feel like Herbert is having a floor year, but I still greatly prefer Burrow. I think we haven't seen Burrow's best yet, and his game should age really well. I've got Burrow as QB2 in dynasty behind only Mahomes.
I'd say Robinson. I think Buffalo is always gonna run through Josh Allen, whereas Robinson can, and perhaps already may be, the centerpiece of that offense.
I think Dobbins is a better player than Etienne, but I'm spooked enough by Dobbins health, that I prefer Etienne.
As for Young/Stroud? I like Young quite a bit more, truth be told I prefer Levis to Stroud.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Patience will always be needed to be successful in dynasty leagues. The microwave mentality is better suited for redraft.Just thinking out loud - not like Houston is setting Young up for a ton of success either - without naming specific teams, I’ll just say that Stroud could be going to a more win-now situation.Not sure how you can endorse anyone landing in indy right now. That OL will get him killed if they don't address it in the off-season and their WR corps could be a lot better.I’m lucky (I hope) and am drafting both (1, 2, 3, 4
Stroud has the size, a great arm, makes good decisions and isn’t a statue, so he’s perhaps a better RL QB than Young, but with a lower FF ceiling. He can also roll out and make plays on the run, but he’s not going to be a 5+ point rushing QB (at least I don’t think he will).
That all said, landing spot is going to be everything. Pretty sure Young will be a Texan (and IMO they’re gonna draft WRs early too) so that’s a tough situation.
If Stroud lands in INDY or CAR, or Seattle he could be the better win-now prospect.
Like I said, I’m taking both so I’m rooting for them both to be good. But Young, despite his size, looks like he could be very good. His size does worry me though.
Let’s say NYG dumps Danny Dimes and trades up to take stroud. That’s a situation where he’s playing for Dabol & develops. NYG also doesn’t have a great OL or top WRs, but I’d take that situation over HOU.
Boston
Footballguy
What if they draft Stroud to sit behind Goff for a year?Tee Higgins or ARSB
Give me Higgins...he is tied in with a stud QB for a while...Goff is fine for fantasy purposes, but he is not at Burrow's level and not sure how long he will be there...while Higgins does have Chase, Jameson will be a full go next year for Detroit.
I’ve seen a number of mocks with this happening.
Would still go Higgins because there is no guessing at all with Burrow.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ok Yoda, so which of the WR do you prefer in that hypothetical? Sounds like ARSB, but you actually said nothing.In dynasty it is a marathon, not a sprint.What if they draft Stroud to sit behind Goff for a year?Tee Higgins or ARSB
Give me Higgins...he is tied in with a stud QB for a while...Goff is fine for fantasy purposes, but he is not at Burrow's level and not sure how long he will be there...while Higgins does have Chase, Jameson will be a full go next year for Detroit.
I’ve seen a number of mocks with this happening.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
As a UK fan that is a mistake. Levis' decision making is horrific and I think he will be a turnover machine at the next level. Don't buy into the Josh Allen comps easily. I'm not saying he won't be that good, but I've watched every game he has ever played in for UK and he simply makes too many mistakes. Coaching will be crucial for Levis.
Yet again a situation where I got both on the same team.
I'd go with Mattison in a close call. Feel like he's got a better all around skill set and I'd rather have him picking his spot to play next year vs Pachecho being at mercy of what Chiefs decide to do at RB.
Boston
Footballguy
In dynasty it is a marathon, not a sprint.What if they draft Stroud to sit behind Goff for a year?Tee Higgins or ARSB
Give me Higgins...he is tied in with a stud QB for a while...Goff is fine for fantasy purposes, but he is not at Burrow's level and not sure how long he will be there...while Higgins does have Chase, Jameson will be a full go next year for Detroit.
I’ve seen a number of mocks with this happening.
I don't totally agree with this...it is both...if you are always looking at the future you will never win anything...you always want your core and a good % of the roster to be young but sometimes what you know now is just fine...overall, I tend to get younger in the offseason and a little older during the season when I know what I need to win.
massraider
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One guy has proven he can pass the football.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Oh, sorry, missed that. I prefer Higgins over ARSB and it isn't close.Ok Yoda, so which of the WR do you prefer in that hypothetical? Sounds like ARSB, but you actually said nothing.In dynasty it is a marathon, not a sprint.What if they draft Stroud to sit behind Goff for a year?Tee Higgins or ARSB
Give me Higgins...he is tied in with a stud QB for a while...Goff is fine for fantasy purposes, but he is not at Burrow's level and not sure how long he will be there...while Higgins does have Chase, Jameson will be a full go next year for Detroit.
I’ve seen a number of mocks with this happening.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I agree and that has always been my philosophy. I try to always win now with an eye on the future. But the concept of dynasty is more of a marathon than a sprint.In dynasty it is a marathon, not a sprint.What if they draft Stroud to sit behind Goff for a year?Tee Higgins or ARSB
Give me Higgins...he is tied in with a stud QB for a while...Goff is fine for fantasy purposes, but he is not at Burrow's level and not sure how long he will be there...while Higgins does have Chase, Jameson will be a full go next year for Detroit.
I’ve seen a number of mocks with this happening.
I don't totally agree with this...it is both...if you are always looking at the future you will never win anything...you always want your core and a good % of the roster to be young but sometimes what you know now is just fine.
jm192
Footballguy
Jefferson, but he's Dynasty WR #1, Chase #2.
Boston
Footballguy
I agree and that has always been my philosophy. I try to always win now with an eye on the future. But the concept of dynasty is more of a marathon than a sprint.In dynasty it is a marathon, not a sprint.What if they draft Stroud to sit behind Goff for a year?Tee Higgins or ARSB
Give me Higgins...he is tied in with a stud QB for a while...Goff is fine for fantasy purposes, but he is not at Burrow's level and not sure how long he will be there...while Higgins does have Chase, Jameson will be a full go next year for Detroit.
I’ve seen a number of mocks with this happening.
I don't totally agree with this...it is both...if you are always looking at the future you will never win anything...you always want your core and a good % of the roster to be young but sometimes what you know now is just fine.
Agree 100%.
jm192
Footballguy
Lance.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I still prefer Brown.
jm192
Footballguy
I would rather have Hall myself but I'm not very risk averse and the only two leagues I have Hall are leagues I traded for him after he tore his ACL. I for sure won't sit here and tell you the ACL is a nothingburger but it's a risk I'm willing to take. Just like direction of that Jets offense now that they will shed Zach. Versus Taylor I just like the offense and system more plus I get about 2 years younger and a little over 700 touches and close to 2.5 seasons less wear and tear.
jm192
Footballguy
Burrow. I think Burrow's better. I also think Chase is one of the most gifted receivers in the league. Higgins is another top 15 receiver. He's just stacked with weapons.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I like some of the ones that are getting in the weeds in here rather than the big names.
With that in mind, Mike White or Brock Purdy
With that in mind, Mike White or Brock Purdy
jm192
Footballguy
McLaurin. Can argue Dotson since he's shown flashes. You can tell the kid is good. But McLaurin has multiple thousand yard seasons, still young enough. I wouldn't trade him straight up for Dotson at this point.
jm192
Footballguy
Agree here. Don't feel great about the Indy offense, and not a lot of faith that the organization is going to do a good job fixing it anytime soon.
jm192
Footballguy
White. I think he has a real chance to run with that job. Purdy has been awesome, but surely to god they're going to give Lance every chance.
jm192
Footballguy
Etienne.
Lots of reasons. Dobbins has looked slow/awkward despite some big runs. Sure, that'll get better. But no passing game work. Baltimore likes to use a committee. Lamar Jackson leads the committee. Lamar eats a lot of the red zone TD's.
Etienne has 1,000 yards in his 1st season as a starter--more passing game involvement, rising offense.
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