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I understand, it will take some stones to do this, but at the end of the day you need to do what's right for the organization, and at his advanced age and his now injury history there is an opportunity to have a succession plan in place. Will this happen, doubtful, but hey its the Jets so you never know!
Yeah, I don't think there's any way that selection isn't a tackle.
This is akin to Tampa selecting Kyle Trask in Brady's win now window after the Super Bowl. Creed Humphrey was the pick right before. It would have been very easy for them to move up to secure him or taken just about anyone else instead of wasting the pick on a player who isn't going to help you in the short term, or ever apparently.
Time will tell. Penix is in the conversation for 4th or 5th best QB of a good QB draft. But he's a HR or strikeout candidate.
I think Williams is probably talented enough, and the Bears are certainly also acquiring talent as well around him, to supersede their history of failure at developing a QB. But, that history is awful, and that's typically a tough place to play QB. Outside of him I think whoever ends up in Denver with Payton or Minnesota with O'Connell will be in good spots.
Maybe Latu and Verse fall too ...........
IMO Penix is a much better prospect than Trask and Brady is far better than Rodgers. Plus, Rodgers, as a person, is a distraction and isn't nearly as popular as Brady which will contribute to making it relatively easy for the Jets to move on from Rodgers after this year. Aside from maybe a few die hard fans who want to win now at all costs, most people in NYC won't be sad to see him go. The Jets owe him nothing, and in fact so far he's cost the team a lot more than he's added. If he's that much of a snowflake where he can't be a professional in this case, then that only makes it easier to move on from him. The Jets basically let Rodgers be the GM last year and it was terrible. I don't think they need to consider his feelings with any of their moves.
I agree with this, however, this was my thought process:
To stir the pot a bit, I did offer the Jets drafter bowers and a sixth for 1.13 and their third rounder.
I can get behind your reasoning, but I don't think it's a realistic scenario. They have one more year with Rodgers. Maybe two? Tops. Every asset should be going toward winning a championship in that window. If not? What was the point? Figure out your QBotF later. Hell, they've been trying to figure that puzzle out for how long? They can't wait another couple years?
I agree completely, Penix is just a guy that really intrigues me a lot, this offseason complete re-tool of the o-line and the addition of WR Mike Williams along with this extra pick in the early 3rd allowed me to gamble a bit and try to set this franchise up for "possible" long term success. As Jets fans we were as excited as anything to come into the season last year with hopes at all time highs then to see it all come crashing down to the reality of Zach Wilson starting again was cruel an unusual. You simply have to try and have a guy ready to go, GB is the model they are in great shape now and they had a win now window as well with Rodgers. Wash drafted RGIII and then also Cousins seemed crazy at the time, but it was the Cousins pick that stuck. If you like a guy you gotta do it. Rodgers can walk at anytime and then this team goes back to square one with retreads and dart throws. I was just trying for a new novel approach for the Jets, an actual succession plan at QB. lol
Just using Trask as an example. When Tampa won the Super Bowl they had incredible luck with injuries. The following year was not so lucky, and they could have used some help in the secondary, the offensive line, and/or at WR. That Trask pick was a waste, and honestly think it may have cost the Bucs back to back titles. Granted, I'm cherry picking with hindsight, and you don't know who'll get hurt. But, if Tom got hurt Trask wasn't even his backup. It was just a stupid pick.
My rebuttal to that would be that GB could have had Rodgers AND an incredible position player to help that team win while he was still there. Yeah, having Love is great NOW, but the Packers will never get those years back with Rodgers, and they did not win another championship. That 2020 draft was an all time great draft with a bunch of incredible players picked after Love.
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Definitely no regrets, here, as I think Bowers is easily a top ten talent and I got him at 11. My thought for the Chargers though is that they also would fill needs with either Turner or Fashanu so, value-wise (especially after the Dissly signing), flipping Bowers into either Turner or Fashanu - either of whom I could have justified at 1.11 - and adding a third rounder to add another valuable dart to my arsenal, was worth it. Nonetheless, I'm plenty happy it was turned down and Herbert has two (arguably three) young elite passing catching prospects on rookie contracts.
Yep, it may have cost them for sure, but now they are set up for a 12-15 year run of Love. It's nice to be relevant year to year, (the Jets have been miserable for 14 years in a row now) but now GB should be in great shape but yeah it may have cost them a ring. But I get it, but you gotta hit on that pick that you skipped the QB for that is the key.My rebuttal to that would be that GB could have had Rodgers AND an incredible position player to help that team win while he was still there. Yeah, having Love is great NOW, but the Packers will never get those years back with Rodgers, and they did not win another championship. That 2020 draft was an all time great draft with a bunch of incredible players picked after Love.
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2020 NFL Draft Listing | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Checkout the 2020 NFL Draft Results including drafted players and trade timelines and their career stats on Pro-Football-Reference.com
Everyone thinks the Packers are so brilliant for doing this, but what if in reality it cost them a championship or two? You think Rodgers couldn't have used Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman, Jonathan Taylor? Hell, get really crazy and move up for Justin Jefferson or Brandon Aiyuk instead of a QB that's going to sit for 3 years. God that was an awesome draft.
in hindsight do you still believe you had to trade up 3 spots to get him?
Yes, he was probably the pick at 10 for me if the NYJ don't move down and cause some chaos.
I tend to agree but I'm enjoying this exercise. In my head a trade down would be 4-6 spots and grab an edge and extra third, which didn't change which prospects would be there in the 70s.
well the important thing is you got who you wanted , and didnt over pay. God knows the OLINE needs to be addressed
But will teams invest that Draft Capital on Penix when his injury history is a major red flag?
He is still on the board yes.
No, I had Penix higher but the Oak trade offer set things in motion. If I was to stick
Will Levis does not like this pick 6.
