I agree. Notwithstanding, Boldin may be the better WR to draft because you can usually draft him at elast 1 round later. Boldin is the better value, at the benefit of the "same" production as Fitz, and having the ability to draft a really good RB instead of drafting Fitz.Fitz by a nose.But Boldins Knee scares me. So I downgrade him more in redraft.
No. I think they are pretty close. But I give the slight edge to Boldin.
Leinart is going to really suprise people with how soon he is really, really good. His learning curve will be shorter than any other top QB in recent years.It scares me to use either one of them due to the fact that they are one Kurt Warner injury away from having the pretty boy throwing them the ball...(But in answer to the original question, no you are not the only one.. )
What character issues did he have at FSU? I remember he had to play QB in his last bowl game because 37 other guys got suspended, but I don't remember him doing anything. I was under the impression his stock dropped because of his bad 40 time. Anyway, I lean towards Fitz because of the red zone and the injury to Boldin, but it's still very close.i think boldin and fitzgerald are equal. i guess fitz has a better perception because he was the big time #1 pick coming in. boldin prob would've have been higher than 2nd round pick if not for some troubles and character issues while at fsu. boldin was a monster last year and his rookie year, and i throw away his second season b/c that was a freak knee injury in preseason that messed the whole season up for him
Are we talking talent or fantasy numbers?Either way I like Fitz by a narrow margin because of his size and redzone presence.It matters who has Warner's trust. There are scores of guys that were more "talented" than the guy on the opposite end, but they didnt see the targets. Didnt someone last week throw up the targets and numbers with Warner vs when Warner was out?
I dunno. Question was "Boldin better than Fitzgerald?". I'm just saying "whichever one gets the ball the most". Boldin is a big physical guy that can still motor and Fitz is lanky, longer arms, 2' taller without horrific injury factor. Probably a wash that depends on who Warner looks to first when it comes to #s.Are we talking talent or fantasy numbers?Either way I like Fitz by a narrow margin because of his size and redzone presence.It matters who has Warner's trust. There are scores of guys that were more "talented" than the guy on the opposite end, but they didnt see the targets. Didnt someone last week throw up the targets and numbers with Warner vs when Warner was out?
Boldin/Fitzgerald remind me of DJax/Robinson.People always argued that KRob was SO MUCH BETTER and just given more time would prove it. Well, we know how that went.The big difference is that Fitz is a legitimately good WR, KRob never was.Anyway, Boldin IS the better of the two... but his playing style may shorten his career, he reminds me a bit of T.O with his style, and he already has knee problems.They are really 1A and 1BIn 14 games last year, Boldin gave us 102 1402 7 In 16 games last year, Fitzgerald was 103 1409 10I'll give Fitz an edge for durability, but all else being equal I think AB is better.
Yep The guy is amazingAnquan Boldin currently holds the NFL record for average receptions per game. His pro-rated numbers from every season of his career would be:101/1377/890/997/2 (playing injured)117/1602/8Un-be-freaking-lievable.
Agreed he'll likely be good but he'll have a tough time duplicating Roethlisberger's personal or team numbers. Regarding Fitz and Boldin I am not sure why there always seems to be a debate on who is better. They're both great young WRs, I'd be happy with either. Look at Moss & Carter under Denny Green.Leinart is going to really suprise people with how soon he is really, really good. His learning curve will be shorter than any other top QB in recent years.It scares me to use either one of them due to the fact that they are one Kurt Warner injury away from having the pretty boy throwing them the ball...
(But in answer to the original question, no you are not the only one.. )
Amazing what a talented kid is capable of when he has a decent head on his shoulders and actually tries to improve on what God gave him.Boldin/Fitzgerald remind me of DJax/Robinson.People always argued that KRob was SO MUCH BETTER and just given more time would prove it. Well, we know how that went.The big difference is that Fitz is a legitimately good WR, KRob never was.Anyway, Boldin IS the better of the two... but his playing style may shorten his career, he reminds me a bit of T.O with his style, and he already has knee problems.They are really 1A and 1BIn 14 games last year, Boldin gave us 102 1402 7 In 16 games last year, Fitzgerald was 103 1409 10I'll give Fitz an edge for durability, but all else being equal I think AB is better.
Roethlisberger's personal numbers were not that great. His team numbers were. Leinheart has Fitz, Boldin, and EDGE......he would destroy Roethlisbergers ##'sPitt HOMER!He'll have a tough time duplicating Roethlisberger's personal or team numbers.
I see this sentiment too often. These guys would be good if I was behind center. They make QBs not the other way around. There was very little drop off in their numbers when it was Josh McCown throwing to them, and nobody's mistaking McCown for Dan Fouts (the best QB of all time by the way ). I don't worry about who's throwing them the ball, ever. They're that good.Anyway I give Fitz a slight edge as he seems to have a bit more athleticism and a better health track record. It's hard to go wrong with either one - probably not really worth considering much for fantasy purposes.It scares me to use either one of them due to the fact that they are one Kurt Warner injury away from having the pretty boy throwing them the ball...(But in answer to the original question, no you are not the only one.. )
Boldin and Fitz went right after each other in my recent draft. Boldin went first, I took Fitz Had both been available, I had planned on taking Boldin with that pick.It's hard to go wrong with either one - probably not really worth considering much for fantasy purposes.
Oh please. Leinart played on the most overstacked team in one of the most understacked conferences in the nation. He might be a great QB one day, but he's never played a game in his career where his team was only a bit better than the other team, let alone WORSE. He's in for a rude awakening playing with an offensive line that won't buy him two minutes, and against CBs that can actually get within two feet of his WRs. He wasn't even the most NFL-ready QB in his class.Leinart is going to really suprise people with how soon he is really, really good. His learning curve will be shorter than any other top QB in recent years.It scares me to use either one of them due to the fact that they are one Kurt Warner injury away from having the pretty boy throwing them the ball...(But in answer to the original question, no you are not the only one.. )
good post...fitz has NFL record for most receptions first two years...boldin for first three years (fitz likely breaks it, due to boldin's missed games from knee)...best duo since moss & carter* SLIGHT edge to fitz as more dangerous red zone threat (& boldin's aforementioned knee issue)... but it is close as boldin has superior RAC chops, & in PPR leagues averages more receptions on per game basis...Anquan Boldin currently holds the NFL record for average receptions per game. His pro-rated numbers from every season of his career would be:101/1377/890/997/2 (playing injured)117/1602/8You know what the most amazing part is? He's played 40 games, and only ONCE has he gotten fewer than 3 receptions. He has 5 or more catches in a ridiculous SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT of the games he's played. He has 7 or more catches FIFTY PERCENT of the time. Un-be-freaking-lievable.
He has a 98.3 QB rating after two seasons in the NFL! By comparison the great Peyton Manning's career rating is 93.5.I'm not going to hijack the thread but compare Roethlisberger at age 22-23 to any QB in recent history. He didn't have the attempts or TDs that Marino had but his Completion %, Yards per Attempt, and winning % and postseason resume are all better.Roethlisberger's personal numbers were not that great. His team numbers were. Leinheart has Fitz, Boldin, and EDGE......he would destroy Roethlisbergers ##'sHe'll have a tough time duplicating Roethlisberger's personal or team numbers.
and much, much, much, much, much, much, much less annoying.good post...fitz has NFL record for most receptions first two years...boldin for first three years (fitz likely breaks it, due to boldin's missed games from knee)...best duo since moss & carterAnquan Boldin currently holds the NFL record for average receptions per game. His pro-rated numbers from every season of his career would be:101/1377/890/997/2 (playing injured)117/1602/8You know what the most amazing part is? He's played 40 games, and only ONCE has he gotten fewer than 3 receptions. He has 5 or more catches in a ridiculous SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT of the games he's played. He has 7 or more catches FIFTY PERCENT of the time. Un-be-freaking-lievable.
I hear what you're saying, but remember for the purposes of this discussion all he has to be is as good as Josh McCown - I think he is, perhaps you disagree?Oh please. Leinart played on the most overstacked team in one of the most understacked conferences in the nation. He might be a great QB one day, but he's never played a game in his career where his team was only a bit better than the other team, let alone WORSE. He's in for a rude awakening playing with an offensive line that won't buy him two minutes, and against CBs that can actually get within two feet of his WRs. He wasn't even the most NFL-ready QB in his class.Leinart is going to really suprise people with how soon he is really, really good. His learning curve will be shorter than any other top QB in recent years.It scares me to use either one of them due to the fact that they are one Kurt Warner injury away from having the pretty boy throwing them the ball...(But in answer to the original question, no you are not the only one.. )
No, I don't really disagree. Boldin and Fitz should still get theirs with Leinart behind center. I was just arguing the claim that Leinart was going to be the most stellar rookie QB of recent years.I hear what you're saying, but remember for the purposes of this discussion all he has to be is as good as Josh McCown - I think he is, perhaps you disagree?Oh please. Leinart played on the most overstacked team in one of the most understacked conferences in the nation. He might be a great QB one day, but he's never played a game in his career where his team was only a bit better than the other team, let alone WORSE. He's in for a rude awakening playing with an offensive line that won't buy him two minutes, and against CBs that can actually get within two feet of his WRs. He wasn't even the most NFL-ready QB in his class.Leinart is going to really suprise people with how soon he is really, really good. His learning curve will be shorter than any other top QB in recent years.It scares me to use either one of them due to the fact that they are one Kurt Warner injury away from having the pretty boy throwing them the ball...(But in answer to the original question, no you are not the only one.. )
Exactly -- both are great receivers, but you have to give the edge to Fitzgerald because he's managed to stay healthy.Fitz by a nose.But Boldins Knee scares me. So I downgrade him more in redraft.
I'll take Boldin over Fitz. The numbers will probably be close enough that it may be a toss up, but watching Boldin play is a blast. No one plays the game with more heart and determination than Boldin. Every time he catches the ball it's like he's hell bent on scoring. He's the guy on the field that no one wants to try to tackle. I want him on my team.
LOL! I called Boldin before his rookie season. That's a FAR BETTER call than Coyle's, as EVERYONE KNEW Fitz was going to be great.props to frank coyle for making a strong call on fitz in 2004 draft guide...i realize a lot of scouts were high on fitz, but we grabbed him in inaugural dynasty draft right after michael clayton & before reggie wayne before his breakout second season, because something coyle said stuck in my memory...that fitz was best WR prospect in a decade since randy moss... that is looking prescient now, but wasn't so obvious even as recently as just this time last year...
Welcome to this year. Fitz will clearly be the better WR this year. Boldin will get nicked up and even if he doesn't, Fitz is IMOI clearly more talented (not that Boldin is exactly a slouch) and he will be "1B" this year at most.In 14 games last year, Boldin gave us 102 1402 7 In 16 games last year, Fitzgerald was 103 1409 10
LOL! I called Boldin before his rookie season. That's a FAR BETTER call than Coyle's, as EVERYONE KNEW Fitz was going to be great.props to frank coyle for making a strong call on fitz in 2004 draft guide...i realize a lot of scouts were high on fitz, but we grabbed him in inaugural dynasty draft right after michael clayton & before reggie wayne before his breakout second season, because something coyle said stuck in my memory...that fitz was best WR prospect in a decade since randy moss... that is looking prescient now, but wasn't so obvious even as recently as just this time last year...
LOL! I called Boldin before his rookie season. That's a FAR BETTER call than Coyle's, as EVERYONE KNEW Fitz was going to be great.props to frank coyle for making a strong call on fitz in 2004 draft guide...i realize a lot of scouts were high on fitz, but we grabbed him in inaugural dynasty draft right after michael clayton & before reggie wayne before his breakout second season, because something coyle said stuck in my memory...that fitz was best WR prospect in a decade since randy moss... that is looking prescient now, but wasn't so obvious even as recently as just this time last year...
I'm sure someone will post it. It's legendary around here.LOL! I called Boldin before his rookie season. That's a FAR BETTER call than Coyle's, as EVERYONE KNEW Fitz was going to be great.props to frank coyle for making a strong call on fitz in 2004 draft guide...i realize a lot of scouts were high on fitz, but we grabbed him in inaugural dynasty draft right after michael clayton & before reggie wayne before his breakout second season, because something coyle said stuck in my memory...that fitz was best WR prospect in a decade since randy moss... that is looking prescient now, but wasn't so obvious even as recently as just this time last year...
Well, it's a common known fact. But since you insist here it is.LOL! I called Boldin before his rookie season. That's a FAR BETTER call than Coyle's, as EVERYONE KNEW Fitz was going to be great.props to frank coyle for making a strong call on fitz in 2004 draft guide...
i realize a lot of scouts were high on fitz, but we grabbed him in inaugural dynasty draft right after michael clayton & before reggie wayne before his breakout second season, because something coyle said stuck in my memory...
that fitz was best WR prospect in a decade since randy moss... that is looking prescient now, but wasn't so obvious even as recently as just this time last year...
Belongs in the FBG HOF.Well, it's a common known fact. But since you insist here it is.LOL! I called Boldin before his rookie season. That's a FAR BETTER call than Coyle's, as EVERYONE KNEW Fitz was going to be great.props to frank coyle for making a strong call on fitz in 2004 draft guide...
i realize a lot of scouts were high on fitz, but we grabbed him in inaugural dynasty draft right after michael clayton & before reggie wayne before his breakout second season, because something coyle said stuck in my memory...
that fitz was best WR prospect in a decade since randy moss... that is looking prescient now, but wasn't so obvious even as recently as just this time last year...