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Shark Pool mock draft - three rounds. Draft started (1 Viewer)

Well, I am not going to pretend that I know how AJ Smith thinks, No one was close in predicting his picks of Craig Davis or ACrow.

Dan Connor - LB - Penn State.

Is it just me or is this a week LB class???

IMO SD needs to upgrade the NON-pash rushing LB's. I think they missed Donnie Edwards, especially against the run. Connor has played both in & out in college. There was one other LB to consider here.

As far as saftey goes, #1 - the two guys andy listed I know nothing about

#2 - weddle is one starter and they took a supplemental pick on Paul Oliver who is moving to S this coming camp.

 
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Dallas is now on the clock.

Lots of interesting choices here. I'll take offers for a few minutes before making my pick.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
With pick 1.23 the Pittsburgh Steelers select...

Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College

Steelers need line help in the worst way and while a DE like Philip Merling is tantalizing, the OL needs the most work, especially if Faneca and Starks both bolt. Cherilus is a seasoned tackle whose stock would be higher if not for a lackluster senior year. However, I firnmly believe his struggles were due to the move from RT to LT - he simply doesn't have the lateral quickness to handle speed rushers and as such, would be a liability in pass coverage on the left side. However, he fits the mold of a Steelers RT to a T, he's an absolute beast in run blocking, can hold his own on the right edge, and his weaknesses really exist only in technique. He's a plug-and-play RT who can start from day 1, and that's what Pittsburgh needs. Then, they can move Colon inside to G where he belongs. We could be looking at this line in '08 : LT - Marvel Smith LG - Chris Kemeoatu/Sean Mahan C - Kendall Simmons RG - Willie Colon RT - Gosder Cherilus
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Love this pick by the way. Agree 100% with the analysis :lmao:
 
With the 28th pick in the 2008 NFL draft, the Dallas Cowboys select:

Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois

Mendenhall carries a mid-first grade, so he represents excellent value at 28. Though not a true compliment to Barber, he has the ability to be a feature back. He has all the skills and potentially allows Dallas to let Barber go next year if his contract demands become too extreme.

Not truly the best fit for Dallas' needs, he represents excellent value at this pick.

 
With the 29th pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the 49ers select:

Quentin Groves OLB/DE

The 49ers were all set to go another direction (i think yall know what that direction is), but with the value of that position still on the board, the team feels they can get a very good player in the 2nd round. With the 3-4 Defense, you need that explosive player on the edge to get to the quarterback and Tully Banta-Cain and Harylson combined for only 6 sacks at the position last season. Also, the Giants won it all largely due to pressuring the QB and it is a copy-cat league.

 
Ridgelake said:
With the 28th pick in the 2008 NFL draft, the Dallas Cowboys select:Rashard Mendenhall RB, IllinoisMendenhall carries a mid-first grade, so he represents excellent value at 28. Though not a true compliment to Barber, he has the ability to be a feature back. He has all the skills and potentially allows Dallas to let Barber go next year if his contract demands become too extreme.Not truly the best fit for Dallas' needs, he represents excellent value at this pick.
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That wasn't the one. :popcorn:Wasn't even the position.
 
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Gutsy pick. Best player Available vs. Immediate need. Gamble on the future 1st rounder. I think in hindsight selecting for immediate need first with the 22nd pick and then hoping for value to drop would have been the right play. Dallas is set up to win right now therefore in this scenario I see a play for Samual in FA.

 
Andy, FYI - Both picks #34 & #35 belong to Atlanta after the 4/5 swap.

 
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Both moves by Dallas have been about maximizing the value of the assets available. I think I've accomplished that so far.

 
Ridgelake said:
Both moves by Dallas have been about maximizing the value of the assets available. I think I've accomplished that so far.
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But you haven't improved the team at the spots that need improving.We'll see what you end up with in the 2nd, but this was a risky move.
 
harrycarey said:
With the 29th pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the 49ers select:Quentin Groves OLB/DEThe 49ers were all set to go another direction (i think yall know what that direction is), but with the value of that position still on the board, the team feels they can get a very good player in the 2nd round. With the 3-4 Defense, you need that explosive player on the edge to get to the quarterback and Tully Banta-Cain and Harylson combined for only 6 sacks at the position last season. Also, the Giants won it all largely due to pressuring the QB and it is a copy-cat league.
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Any word on how Manny Lawson is recovering from his injury? A linebacking corps of Lawson/Moore/Willis/Groves could be pretty good.
 
JM4Steelers said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
With pick 1.23 the Pittsburgh Steelers select...

Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College

Steelers need line help in the worst way and while a DE like Philip Merling is tantalizing, the OL needs the most work, especially if Faneca and Starks both bolt. Cherilus is a seasoned tackle whose stock would be higher if not for a lackluster senior year. However, I firnmly believe his struggles were due to the move from RT to LT - he simply doesn't have the lateral quickness to handle speed rushers and as such, would be a liability in pass coverage on the left side. However, he fits the mold of a Steelers RT to a T, he's an absolute beast in run blocking, can hold his own on the right edge, and his weaknesses really exist only in technique. He's a plug-and-play RT who can start from day 1, and that's what Pittsburgh needs. Then, they can move Colon inside to G where he belongs. We could be looking at this line in '08 : LT - Marvel Smith LG - Chris Kemeoatu/Sean Mahan C - Kendall Simmons RG - Willie Colon RT - Gosder Cherilus
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Love this pick by the way. Agree 100% with the analysis :tfp:
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Thanks, man.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
As far as saftey goes, #1 - the two guys andy listed I know nothing about

#2 - weddle is one starter and they took a supplemental pick on Paul Oliver who is moving to S this coming camp.
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Totally forgot about him. I think Connor is a decent pick. Not too many holes on that roster.
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I think without Jamal in there SD suffered vs. the run. Plus he getting old.Also Cooper,Wilhelm etc. is an area that need an upgrade, more than saftey.

I wanted Balmer, or Baker/Williams at OT.

This concludes the SD portion of the draft.

SD Holes that will be dressed later in the draft or, hopefully, via free agency. (should get a supplemental 3rd from D.Edwards)

Backup RB

G and or T - Faneca please,please,please

Saftey

Kickoff Specialist - Kaeding struggled with Kickoffs, but I can overlook it a little due to a broken leg

Backup NT/DT

 
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Evilgrin 72 said:
OK, then.... the Titans select..Philip Merling, DE, ClemsonI know most prognosticators are thinking WR here, but hey - if they wanted a WR, they could get Chad Johnson at this spot (in this mock). I would have considered a playmaker like DeSean Jackson, but honestly, I am not 100% sold on Manningham or Sweed being a huge upgrade from what they have now. On the other hand, they have free agent situations all over the DL, which is the facet of this team that's kept them in the playoff mix year after year. Haynesworth would be a huge loss, but assuming they re-sign him to a massive deal, that leaves very little money with which to re-sign Antwan Odom (or Travis LaBoy,) meaning that they would be perilously thin, and without a real starter at RE. Problem solved with the addition of Merling, who is an underrated end (at least for another month or so) that could likely play right away, meaning they could sacrifice Odom to re-sign Hanyesworth and still have very little (if any) dropoff on the D-line.
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Not sure that Odom would command mucho moolah at this point - apart from that - how about a CB or are you expecting Pac Man to return?Personally I am not sure how the secondary will shape up other than Griffin and Hope
 
With the 30th pick in the draft, the Atlanta Falcons select...

Brandon Albert, G/T, Virginia

I had three goals coming into this draft for the Falcons:

1 - Shore up the offensive line.

2 - Select an impact skill player.

3 - ???

After taking McFadden in round 1, I knew getting at least one quality offensive lineman in round two would be critical. Low and behold, we're only on pick 30 and already five tackles are off the board. IMO, Albert is the only offensive line prospect that can come in and start right away. He was a three year starter at Virginia, has size to play either tackle or guard (6'7"/315), and fills what is probably the Falcons biggest glaring weakness.

Giving up an early third was tough, but I was certain I would have been scrambling if Albert was off the board.

 
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JimboJim said:
With the 30th pick in the draft, the Atlanta Falcons select...

Brandon Albert, G/T, Virginia

I had three goals coming into this draft for the Falcons:

1 - Shore up the offensive line.

2 - Select an impact skill player.

3 - ???

After taking McFadden in round 1, I knew getting at least one quality offensive lineman in round two would be critical. Low and behold, we're only on pick 30 and already three tackles are off the board. IMO, Albert is the only offensive line prospect that can come in and start right away. He was a three year starter at Virginia, has size to play either tackle or guard (6'7"/315), and fills what is probably the Falcons biggest glaring weakness.

Giving up an early third was tough, but I was certain I would have been scrambling if Albert was off the board.
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I don't think you had to trade up for him.
 
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Andy Dufresne said:
JimboJim said:
With the 30th pick in the draft, the Atlanta Falcons select...

Brandon Albert, G/T, Virginia

I had three goals coming into this draft for the Falcons:

1 - Shore up the offensive line.

2 - Select an impact skill player.

3 - ???

After taking McFadden in round 1, I knew getting at least one quality offensive lineman in round two would be critical. Low and behold, we're only on pick 30 and already three tackles are off the board. IMO, Albert is the only offensive line prospect that can come in and start right away. He was a three year starter at Virginia, has size to play either tackle or guard (6'7"/315), and fills what is probably the Falcons biggest glaring weakness.

Giving up an early third was tough, but I was certain I would have been scrambling if Albert was off the board.
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I don't think you had to trade up for him.
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agreed
 
I sent a trade offer to keys and am getting ready to go to lunch... do you guys care if Miami's pick isn't until after 1?

 
Gamma1210 was here at about 8:00 this morning. We'll give him 30 minutes to show up, after which we'll pick for him just to move this along.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
JimboJim said:
With the 30th pick in the draft, the Atlanta Falcons select...

Brandon Albert, G/T, Virginia

I had three goals coming into this draft for the Falcons:

1 - Shore up the offensive line.

2 - Select an impact skill player.

3 - ???

After taking McFadden in round 1, I knew getting at least one quality offensive lineman in round two would be critical. Low and behold, we're only on pick 30 and already three tackles are off the board. IMO, Albert is the only offensive line prospect that can come in and start right away. He was a three year starter at Virginia, has size to play either tackle or guard (6'7"/315), and fills what is probably the Falcons biggest glaring weakness.

Giving up an early third was tough, but I was certain I would have been scrambling if Albert was off the board.
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I don't think you had to trade up for him.
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Maybe, maybe not; but Miami and St. Louis both need offensive line help bad and did nothing to solve that problem with their round one selections.Say what you might, but IMO Albert >>>> the remaining O-linemen in this draft; especially considering the fact he can play either tackle or guard. I would have taken him over Baker.

 
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Keys Myaths said:
1.03: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU

I was going to make offers to trade down, because I really didn't think McFadden made sense for Oakland right now. There are too many glaring needs on defense to justify taking

Thank you for letting the best player in the draft slip. I know Chris Long is better for Parcells, but Dorsey is going to be a force for years and years in Oakland's defense.

I win the draft on this one pick. Good luck catching up, suckers.
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Sweeeeeeet! :goodposting:
 
After consulting with the resident Giants fan (Rifleman) I have decided that this is the Giants' pick...

1.31 - Brandon Flowers, CB - Virginia Tech

Mayock has him ranked as the #2 CB, so this seems to make sense to me. I know others would argue another name, but let's leave it at that.

 
msommer said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
OK, then.... the Titans select..Philip Merling, DE, ClemsonI know most prognosticators are thinking WR here, but hey - if they wanted a WR, they could get Chad Johnson at this spot (in this mock). I would have considered a playmaker like DeSean Jackson, but honestly, I am not 100% sold on Manningham or Sweed being a huge upgrade from what they have now. On the other hand, they have free agent situations all over the DL, which is the facet of this team that's kept them in the playoff mix year after year. Haynesworth would be a huge loss, but assuming they re-sign him to a massive deal, that leaves very little money with which to re-sign Antwan Odom (or Travis LaBoy,) meaning that they would be perilously thin, and without a real starter at RE. Problem solved with the addition of Merling, who is an underrated end (at least for another month or so) that could likely play right away, meaning they could sacrifice Odom to re-sign Hanyesworth and still have very little (if any) dropoff on the D-line.
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Not sure that Odom would command mucho moolah at this point - apart from that - how about a CB or are you expecting Pac Man to return?Personally I am not sure how the secondary will shape up other than Griffin and Hope
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I figured Pac-Man's return would be almost like drafting a CB. Haynesworth is going to want so much $$ that they might not be able to re-sign Odom. If both those guys come back, and they still manage to re-sign LeBoy, I'd probably have gone with Mario Manningham there.
 
There's a trade proposal between Kirby and Keys that I'm confirming.

Keys is wandering around the pool. I hope he shows up soon.

 
I'm curious to see what Miami does here. With Brohm and Ryan off the board, I think taking a QB would be a) a mistake, and b) unrealistic. I think threre's probably a QB we could take in the bottom of the 2nd/top of the 3rd that may be better than one that grades out at the top of the 2nd...An OL would be nice but it seems all or most of those with 1st round grades are gone... guys here are saying that the good linebackers out there are all of the speedy, smallish, cover 2 variety...that doesn't really seem to be Parcells type of player... so what are we looking at here...DB? WR? interior DL ?

 
Andy Dufresne said:
There's a trade proposal between Kirby and Keys that I'm confirming.

Keys is wandering around the pool. I hope he shows up soon.
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Oakland trades the 2.07 and Oakland's 4th round pick for the 2.01.Oakland selects:

Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas

Oakland has a good running game right now, but putrid backs to run with it. Felix is great at sneaking through holes and making stuff happen. I'm a Mizzou fan, and although it was only one game, I thought Jones looked as good as any college runner I've seen.

Yes, including that other Arkansas back.

Defense and rushing. That's going to be Raider football for a while.

Oakland is done with this mock draft now.

 
That's a reasonable trade for Oakland to make.

I emailed TheWick and told him he's up. He was here at around 8:45, so grab some lunch and check back in 30 minutes.

 
It's interesting to see all the trades. Unrealistic? Probably but this year might play out where there is a lot of wheeling and dealing.

 
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