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I agree. People are way too quick to dismiss the Eagles in this one. The Ravens have a good defense, but they can be run on (if reid doesn't decide they don't need to again).Eagles home opener.Ravens on short week.All of Ravens losses on the road last year(TEN, JAX, SEA and SD). I would tend to lead towards Philly with that line.I'd bet the house on the Ravens.Early linehilly -1O/U 44
But you just pointed the problem out: Ried the stubborn b@stard won't change his mind. It is so maddening that the national media just doesn't see what we see year in and year out.Look, I get that Reid may have seen a weak Clev. Team as an opportunity to give Vick a lot of reps. But my God man, how can you so irresponsibly let him get killed back there when they such an excellent running attack (when they use it)? Vick is not Drew Brees. Madness...I agree. People are way too quick to dismiss the Eagles in this one. The Ravens have a good defense, but they can be run on (if reid doesn't decide they don't need to again).Eagles home opener.Ravens on short week.All of Ravens losses on the road last year(TEN, JAX, SEA and SD). I would tend to lead towards Philly with that line.I'd bet the house on the Ravens.Early line
I agree he was a bad pick and there's no way around that. But in a way I do commend them for getting rid of him instead of going the political route and keeping him since he was a 2nd round pick'delusional said:
Good question. Hard to say, really. Demeco was invisible in the preseason then played a pretty good game against Cleveland. But it was Cleveland with Richardson running like he had a refrigerator on his back and Weedon not able to hit water if he fell off of a boat. The current LBs have speed, and the rookie Kendrick's looks like the real deal. But we'll find out if they can cover TEs soon enough.Delusional, Deranged and a few others can probably give you a better answer with more knowledge of the players.
I think we shut-out the CLE TEs last week
He has a good point but goes way overboard. You forgot to mention the author of this is no other then ESPN Dal Jason Whitlock who's been known to go on long rants. I'm surprised he didn't try to throw in his 'Boys into the article of how much better they be. Again he has a point but goes way overboard.
I agree the old Atl Vick would have given up then threw his teammates under the bus. If he's learned anything it's how to be a more mature better humane being. If he can't learn how to play the dam QB position I'd at least want him to learn to be a better person.
You mean Marty Morningweg's playing calling? Andy hasn't done play calling for two yrs. Yes I know he says he takes the blame for it but he's a coach who won't throw a player or coach under the bus which is why many players want to come play for him to begin with. Could Andy tell MM to run the ball more? Sure but this constant Andy's play calling is just unreal when he hasn't been the sole play caller and given up most of those responsibilities for 2 yrs now.Reid's play calling is continuously so bad that I find myself feeling sorry for McNabb.
You don't really believe this do you?You mean Marty Morningweg's playing calling? Andy hasn't done play calling for two yrs. Yes I know he says he takes the blame for it but he's a coach who won't throw a player or coach under the bus which is why many players want to come play for him to begin with. Could Andy tell MM to run the ball more? Sure but this constant Andy's play calling is just unreal when he hasn't been the sole play caller and given up most of those responsibilities for 2 yrs now.Reid's play calling is continuously so bad that I find myself feeling sorry for McNabb.
You don't really believe this do you?You mean Marty Morningweg's playing calling? Andy hasn't done play calling for two yrs. Yes I know he says he takes the blame for it but he's a coach who won't throw a player or coach under the bus which is why many players want to come play for him to begin with. Could Andy tell MM to run the ball more? Sure but this constant Andy's play calling is just unreal when he hasn't been the sole play caller and given up most of those responsibilities for 2 yrs now.Reid's play calling is continuously so bad that I find myself feeling sorry for McNabb.
Yes we all know Marty calls the plays on game day, but its Andy's game plan. And if Andy didn't like what Marty was calling, Marty would hear about it. Not to mention its up to Reid to get in his ear if things aren't going well. It wouldn't happen game after game, year after year if Andy wasn't in full agreement.They actually did pretty good against TE's last year. Should continue this year esp with upgraded LBs.
DeSean Jackson was also held out today. We have about 3 healthy WRs right now.
Yeah I saw he had some hamstring issues today but should be good to go Sunday. Maclin is more iffy. I hope Gilyard is a quick learner.
No they are not. I sat and watched many drafts, watching him pass over players which atm made people question. Watch him draft players 2 rounds higher then they should & be questioned. Only to watch the players flop out year after year.
True. That seems to have just started happening this season though. As for Jackson & Maclin being out...ouch.
Plus i swear watching games in the past you could see Reid with the playcall sheet calling in some things when on offense. I wish I had my pic I made still but i deleted it, was Mr Garisson with Mr Hat from South Park...Reid & Martys faces both shopped in. Fits perfectlyYou don't really believe this do you?You mean Marty Morningweg's playing calling? Andy hasn't done play calling for two yrs. Yes I know he says he takes the blame for it but he's a coach who won't throw a player or coach under the bus which is why many players want to come play for him to begin with. Could Andy tell MM to run the ball more? Sure but this constant Andy's play calling is just unreal when he hasn't been the sole play caller and given up most of those responsibilities for 2 yrs now.Reid's play calling is continuously so bad that I find myself feeling sorry for McNabb.
Good to hear!
Vick going up against the Ravens scares me though, even without Suggs.
Vick against any really good defense scares me. He's amazing against bad teams but when he plays the good D like Bal and others he's god awfui.Good to hear!
He was amazing last week?Vick against any really good defense scares me. He's amazing against bad teams but when he plays the good D like Bal and others he's god awfui.Good to hear!
Does he know Andy Reid? McCoy needs to touch the ball to get yards, I have my doubts.
Yes, McCoy had 20 carries last week, with a chunk of those being off-tackle or outside the tackles runs. He also had 6 catches, with at least one 25 yd rec called back. They used a lot of short passing...That was my point, that's what the Ravens are susceptible to, that game plan will work against Bmore's weak DEs. I want Baltimore to win, I just see issues with the Defense matching up with the Eagles strengths/offensive play calling. Offensively the Ravens biggest issue is the center, MBurk. When you watch the game watch our center, our DEs, our slow linebackers, and every CB not named Webb.McCoy is set for a huge Sunday (he's an every week starter stud so it's not really a fantasy nugget).
The days of running the ball and playing defence to win a superbowl are over as of now, Reid was actually ahead of that curve. I wouldn't adopt a ball control strategy vs the worse team in the league while I have a 100m dollar quarterback either. What do you think would happen if Brees/Brady/Rodgers threw 50x's on the Browns? Do you think any of them would have had 4int's and 12 deflected passes? It's amazing how many excuses people make for Vick. He's a unreal athlete and a average passer, why not just be honest. Noway do I believe Mike Vick will ever lead a team to the superbowl. It doesn't matter what plays they call, they won't be successful with Vick holding the ball, not anticipating throws, and just looking to scramble while he makes poor decisions. The more he stinks the faster the best QB on the team, Nick Foles, plays and develops. Giving Vick's injury history we will probably see Foles in games anyway. I can't wait.
Saying Foles, who has never taken a meaningful snap in the NFL, is better than Vick, who has led teams to the playoffs, is a MASSIVE stretch. I'm as excited as anyone about Foles' potential, but let's be realistic here.Also, salary distribution should not determine ball distribution. Just because Vick has the biggest contract doesn't mean you drop back and throw when it's not working. The Eagles have a pretty talented RB that was having success on the ground. You do what it takes to win, regardless of contracts.'ShaHBucks said:
Shady touched the ball 26x's, fumbled in the redzone and didn't score all game. How much has running the ball worked for MJD, AP, and CJ2K's teams? I don't see that point at all. Foles can PASS the ball better than Vick period. That's a fact not a reach.
No, in absolutely no way is that a fact. It's an opinion. And it's one based on not seeing him play a single meaningful snap at the NFL level.(and this isn't taking into the account that you're changing what you said from "best QB" to "he can pass better")Shady touched the ball 26x's, fumbled in the redzone and didn't score all game. How much has running the ball worked for MJD, AP, and CJ2K's teams? I don't see that point at all.
Foles can PASS the ball better than Vick period. That's a fact not a reach.
Do you really believe salaries don't determine how a team wants to play from the front office down? Or how they evaluate takent? Even if you don't think so he was a 100 million dollar mistake. Dropping back and throwing is his dam job! One that he's awful at. No wonder it wasn't working On the worse team in the league
That's the troubling thing he wasn't.'Kwai Chang Caine said:He was amazing last week?Vick against any really good defense scares me. He's amazing against bad teams but when he plays the good D like Bal and others he's god awfui.Good to hear!
So running the ball will cure the problem which is Vick as you stated?I didn't feel like editing the redzone fumble. It was around the 50. Football terms it's even worse giving up that field position. So thanks.No, in absolutely no way is that a fact. It's an opinion. And it's one based on not seeing him play a single meaningful snap at the NFL level.(and this isn't taking into the account that you're changing what you said from "best QB" to "he can pass better")Shady touched the ball 26x's, fumbled in the redzone and didn't score all game. How much has running the ball worked for MJD, AP, and CJ2K's teams? I don't see that point at all.
Foles can PASS the ball better than Vick period. That's a fact not a reach.
Do you really believe salaries don't determine how a team wants to play from the front office down? Or how they evaluate takent? Even if you don't think so he was a 100 million dollar mistake. Dropping back and throwing is his dam job! One that he's awful at. No wonder it wasn't working On the worse team in the league
Also, Shady didn't fumble in the redzone. It was around the 40. The redzone is the area inside the opponents 20 yard line.
If you don't see the point at running the ball with one of the best RBs in the game when you're averaging 5+ yards a carry versus passing when your QB has 4 INTs, 2 fumbles, and barely a 50% completion rate, I don't really know what to tell you. Watch more football I guess and spend some time learning about the game.
No, salaries don't determine how a team wants to play OR how they evaluate talent. You have the causes confused. Salaries are a RESULT of how a team evaluates talent. It is not the CAUSE.
Again, you do what it takes to win. You don't look at who is being paid the most and bang your head through a wall with that gameplan when it isn't working.
So running the ball will cure the problem which is Vick as you stated?I didn't feel like editing the redzone fumble. It was around the 50. Football terms it's even worse giving up that field position. So thanks.No, in absolutely no way is that a fact. It's an opinion. And it's one based on not seeing him play a single meaningful snap at the NFL level.(and this isn't taking into the account that you're changing what you said from "best QB" to "he can pass better")Shady touched the ball 26x's, fumbled in the redzone and didn't score all game. How much has running the ball worked for MJD, AP, and CJ2K's teams? I don't see that point at all.
Foles can PASS the ball better than Vick period. That's a fact not a reach.
Do you really believe salaries don't determine how a team wants to play from the front office down? Or how they evaluate takent? Even if you don't think so he was a 100 million dollar mistake. Dropping back and throwing is his dam job! One that he's awful at. No wonder it wasn't working On the worse team in the league
Also, Shady didn't fumble in the redzone. It was around the 40. The redzone is the area inside the opponents 20 yard line.
If you don't see the point at running the ball with one of the best RBs in the game when you're averaging 5+ yards a carry versus passing when your QB has 4 INTs, 2 fumbles, and barely a 50% completion rate, I don't really know what to tell you. Watch more football I guess and spend some time learning about the game.
No, salaries don't determine how a team wants to play OR how they evaluate talent. You have the causes confused. Salaries are a RESULT of how a team evaluates talent. It is not the CAUSE.
Again, you do what it takes to win. You don't look at who is being paid the most and bang your head through a wall with that gameplan when it isn't working.
I'm not changing anything, Quarterbacks throw the football so Nick Foles is the best QB on the team. I knew he was good but I didn't think he would be as good as he was in the preseason this fast. Mark my words and put them in your signature, either this year or next Nick Foles will be the starting QB for the Eagles. Salary doesn't matter to you guys but I bet you it will matter when the Eagles think about paying him 15 million next year with Foles on the bench. This team has a ridiculous amount of talent. Defense is great, WR/TE catch everything and Shady is elite. The only thing holding the team back is a fraud under center who for his career is a average passer at best. For all the credit he gets running the ball Mark Sanchez had mor rushing TD's last year. 2010 was unreal, he literally played for his life. Once he was paid it was back to the Mike Vick experience. Eagles play Bal next week, the NYG-PIT in weeks 4-5. Start 2-3 and the Foles bandwagon have more people on it than me.
I can't remember word for word but John Wooden said something that always stuck with me. That winning and loosing isn't determined by the scoreboard. If you play a team that your 50 points better than and only win by 20 then you didn't play up to your ability. To him the other team won. We just beat the Browns. . . Imagine what you would be saying if the Eagles lost this game.
Reid and the front office jobs are on the line. I'm sure they seen wide open receivers all over the field and decided to keep throwing and not all this bull#### you hear on the radio, TV and internet about not wanting to run the ball. Too bad dropping back and making a anticipation throw in a west coast offense isn't on Vick's new resume. He's never going to win a Superbowl.
We'll see. I don't think it would be a shock if we lost to them. They are 2-0 and just went into New England and beat the patriots... they can do that, they can beat anyone... especially at home.I like our chances though... like others have said... we aren't playing great, but other years we would find a way to lose, not win these close games. I think the offense will come alive next week in the dome
Maybe but cant u enjoy a win for like 5 minutes?
Imagine If they had one of the best RBs in the league and no SB rings!
