TheWick
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- Prestige Worldwide gave up Harvin, Percy SEA WR
- Team Haterade gave up Floyd, Michael ARI WR;Morgan, Joseph NOS WR;Quick, Brian STL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.12; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team Haterade
Stealing. Two very late firsts, and two mid-late seconds for a full-on stud. That's like getting Harvin for the #3 or #4 rookie pick. Basically a lesson in how not to do it IMO.
- Prestige Worldwide gave up Harvin, Percy SEA WR
- Team Haterade gave up Floyd, Michael ARI WR;Morgan, Joseph NOS WR;Quick, Brian STL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.12; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team Haterade
Depends on the team and this one could be good for both sides. A completely rebuilding team is better off acquiring all that talent. If PW is going to be a non-playoff team for the next two years then he doesn't have to hang the entire future of his team on Harvin.Stealing. Two very late firsts, and two mid-late seconds for a full-on stud. That's like getting Harvin for the #3 or #4 rookie pick. Basically a lesson in how not to do it IMO.
- Prestige Worldwide gave up Harvin, Percy SEA WR
- Team Haterade gave up Floyd, Michael ARI WR;Morgan, Joseph NOS WR;Quick, Brian STL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.12; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team Haterade
Team getting Harvin is stacked and has won league 2 years in a row (Foster, Charles, Lynch, CJ2K, Roddy, Jordy, Graham, Brady)cstu said:Depends on the team and this one could be good for both sides. A completely rebuilding team is better off acquiring all that talent. If PW is going to be a non-playoff team for the next two years then he doesn't have to hang the entire future of his team on Harvin.wdcrob said:Stealing. Two very late firsts, and two mid-late seconds for a full-on stud. That's like getting Harvin for the #3 or #4 rookie pick. Basically a lesson in how not to do it IMO.TheWick said:
- Prestige Worldwide gave up Harvin, Percy SEA WR
- Team Haterade gave up Floyd, Michael ARI WR;Morgan, Joseph NOS WR;Quick, Brian STL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.12; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team Haterade
Cameron and 2nd for Ivory is a great trade, not even factoring in Ivory having one year left.Middle of the rookie/FA draft trade:
12 team, 1/2 ppr for WR/TE only, Start Q/R/R/W/W/W/T/flex, 4 year max contracts
Traded Chris Ivory (1 yr)
Received pick 2.05, 2014 2nd rounder
Used pick 2.05 to select Jordan Cameron.
The other key is the 1.01 next year, which this deal helps him get. If Floyd or Quick develop, he's able get Lattimore at 1.12 and he's able to parlay the 1st's into good players he could turn the team around in a year.Team getting Harvin is stacked and has won league 2 years in a row (Foster, Charles, Lynch, CJ2K, Roddy, Jordy, Graham, Brady)cstu said:Depends on the team and this one could be good for both sides. A completely rebuilding team is better off acquiring all that talent. If PW is going to be a non-playoff team for the next two years then he doesn't have to hang the entire future of his team on Harvin.wdcrob said:Stealing. Two very late firsts, and two mid-late seconds for a full-on stud. That's like getting Harvin for the #3 or #4 rookie pick. Basically a lesson in how not to do it IMO.TheWick said:
- Prestige Worldwide gave up Harvin, Percy SEA WR
- Team Haterade gave up Floyd, Michael ARI WR;Morgan, Joseph NOS WR;Quick, Brian STL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.12; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team Haterade
Team getting youth is rebuilding and just cashed in his best piece.
Key to deal in my eyes is Michael Floyd.
So 3 1st's Austin/Lacey/Gio and a couple of 2nd's. For Thomas and Maclin.Just processed this one...
I tend to agree with you on this one...but some in the league were balking for this trade to get veto'd saying too much was given for DT....freakin rookiesSo 3 1st's Austin/Lacey/Gio and a couple of 2nd's. For Thomas and Maclin.Just processed this one...
I dont think I could trade Thomas for that myself.
Some good potential there but DT is young top 4 wr for me. Some will hit some wont. I like Maclin upside in Chips offense as much as most top 5 players in this years draft.
I was recently turned down my 1.04 for Maclin.
I disagree. Hunter and James are two backup RBs that look like they'll be stuck in a RBBC for awhile if they even earn meaningful snaps, LMoore doesn't have many years left and is a WR3 at best, DMoore could be alright but it still a lotto ticket at this point and Williams is on the downside of his career. Ballard is a polarizing player, I know because I traded for him and then traded him away recently and people either love or hate him. Hard to get value for a guy that 75% of people think is just holding the spot until they draft or sign another RB. Wouldn't be surprised to see them sign Bradshaw and he ends up getting 250 carries this year.You definitely could have gotten more than that in return..
I like the bolded by a good margin, in each trade.A couple NMTs
12tm PPR with RB/WR flex
Crabtree
for
Ball (huge need trade)
12tm PPR - can start 2WR and 2TE or 3WR and 1TE - 4pt pass td and 20yds/pt pass yard
Cam
for
Stafford
Fleener
It's funny how much the draft can change things. I think a veto would have been discussed with the Crabtree for Ball trade back in February, but now that Ball is the potential workhorse for Denver it's not toooo bad.A couple NMTs
12tm PPR with RB/WR flex
Crabtree
for
Ball (huge need trade)
12tm PPR - can start 2WR and 2TE or 3WR and 1TE - 4pt pass td and 20yds/pt pass yard
Cam
for
Stafford
Fleener
I never loved Ball or his performance at the combine, but you can't deny he was going to drafted to be a workhorse somewhere. He lucked out that he got on a great running team and that boosted his value quite a lot.CR69 said:It's funny how much the draft can change things. I think a veto would have been discussed with the Crabtree for Ball trade back in February, but now that Ball is the potential workhorse for Denver it's not toooo bad.thriftyrocker said:A couple NMTs
12tm PPR with RB/WR flex
Crabtree
for
Ball (huge need trade)
12tm PPR - can start 2WR and 2TE or 3WR and 1TE - 4pt pass td and 20yds/pt pass yard
Cam
for
Stafford
Fleener
I'm definitely taking the Crabtree side, I won't trade or draft for need in dynasty leagues anymore. Been burned too many times with trades like this or a 1st for Ricky Williams when trying to make a push for the playoffs. It rarely works out and can set you back 1-2 years.
If Fleener develops into a top 5 TE like he has the potential to then it swings the opposite way. Certainly a big risk for the Cam owner.Concept Coop said:I like the bolded by a good margin, in each trade.thriftyrocker said:A couple NMTs
12tm PPR with RB/WR flex
Crabtree
for
Ball (huge need trade)
12tm PPR - can start 2WR and 2TE or 3WR and 1TE - 4pt pass td and 20yds/pt pass yard
Cam
for
Stafford
Fleener
I don't disagree with your plan to open up some spots, but don't like Mathews as the target. As others have said you could have got better value by selling the pieces off one by one.JohnW1970 said:12 team PPR,
Gave: K. Hunter, L James, Ballard, Deangelo Williams, D. Moore and L. Moore
Got: Mathews, Broyles and the 4.12 rookie pick
Ballard was the only one who might play for me, and I wanted to open up some roster spots. Still have Calvin, Torrey Smith, J. Gordon, Givens, Brown, Michael Floyd, Streater and Woods at WR after the trade.
I traded the 2.02 this year to get him so that's about right.Frank Gore
for
2014 1st (should be late)
I don't think there are many Fleener owners out there who believe he has top-5 TE upside. This is not much of a risk at all for the Cam owner. Unless you have Cam much closer to Stafford than most, I guess.If Fleener develops into a top 5 TE like he has the potential to then it swings the opposite way. Certainly a big risk for the Cam owner.Concept Coop said:I like the bolded by a good margin, in each trade.thriftyrocker said:A couple NMTs 12tm PPR with RB/WR flexCrabtreeforBall (huge need trade) 12tm PPR - can start 2WR and 2TE or 3WR and 1TE - 4pt pass td and 20yds/pt pass yard CamforStaffordFleener
Depending on how one feels about Murray vs. DMC, one side of this trade could be seen as having got the better in every part of the deal.[*]Five Rings gave up Brady, Tom NEP QB;McFadden, Darren OAK RB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.02
[*]King Dingaling gave up Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB;Murray, DeMarco DAL RB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.08
He'd have to be top 5 for it to be close, in my opinion. In a 4 pt passing TD league, Newton is worth a lot more than Stafford. I wouldn't trade Newton for Stafford + Witten or Eifter, whom are #4 and #5 in my dynasty rankings.If Fleener develops into a top 5 TE like he has the potential to then it swings the opposite way. Certainly a big risk for the Cam owner.
I still probably take Crabtree over Ball actuallyWell how do we feel about the Crabtree trade NOW? Oh man.
I kinda doubt you would be in the majority there.I still probably take Crabtree over Ball actuallyWell how do we feel about the Crabtree trade NOW? Oh man.
When was the last time an Achilles ended a career? Demaryius Thomas came back from it, Suggs did, Fred Davis looks to be okay, and for all we know Mikel LeShoure was always going to look that bad. Andre Brown took longer but looks good now, aside from other injuries. I can't think of any other recent ones off the top of my head other than Jason Peters, and we'll see about him.Now might be the time to buy on Crabtree.I kinda doubt you would be in the majority there.I still probably take Crabtree over Ball actuallyWell how do we feel about the Crabtree trade NOW? Oh man.
Be my guest. Even with encouraging news on recoveries in recent years, this is still a serious injury and I see the glass as half empty. If you feel otherwise it is a great buying opportunity, but I will let others assume that risk.When was the last time an Achilles ended a career? Demaryius Thomas came back from it, Suggs did, Fred Davis looks to be okay, and for all we know Mikel LeShoure was always going to look that bad. Andre Brown took longer but looks good now, aside from other injuries. I can't think of any other recent ones off the top of my head other than Jason Peters, and we'll see about him.Now might be the time to buy on Crabtree.I kinda doubt you would be in the majority there.I still probably take Crabtree over Ball actuallyWell how do we feel about the Crabtree trade NOW? Oh man.
I think he is a very good "buy" rigth now, considering it is only May. Very good buy for teams looking past this year for rebuilding, or for the top tier teams with ammo to spend to get it done and not lose much of their depth.Be my guest. Even with encouraging news on recoveries in recent years, this is still a serious injury and I see the glass as half empty. If you feel otherwise it is a great buying opportunity, but I will let others assume that risk.When was the last time an Achilles ended a career? Demaryius Thomas came back from it, Suggs did, Fred Davis looks to be okay, and for all we know Mikel LeShoure was always going to look that bad. Andre Brown took longer but looks good now, aside from other injuries. I can't think of any other recent ones off the top of my head other than Jason Peters, and we'll see about him.Now might be the time to buy on Crabtree.I kinda doubt you would be in the majority there.I still probably take Crabtree over Ball actuallyWell how do we feel about the Crabtree trade NOW? Oh man.
Good, then hopefully people are dumping Crabs and I can benefit from it. In leagues where I have some extra resources and a roster spot, I will definitely be inquiring at a good price. If not, no biggie, someone else can snag him.I kinda doubt you would be in the majority there.I still probably take Crabtree over Ball actuallyWell how do we feel about the Crabtree trade NOW? Oh man.
so................what TIME was this deal made, lol
vereen Floyd side, and it certainly appears the Crabs injusty helped you herePost crabtree, 12 team PPR devy league:
Boldin
S Holmes
1st Rounder 2014
for
Vereen
M Floyd (ARI)
I moved Gore + Miles Austin for Demaryius Thomas and 2.10. Thin at RB but don't trust Gore long term and attempting to rebuild. Figured it was a good opp to move Gore while he still had value, while potentially adding a perennial top 10 WR in Thomas.I traded the 2.02 this year to get him so that's about right.Frank Gore
for
2014 1st (should be late)
That's stealing. Not representative of Gore's current value at all.I moved Gore + Miles Austin for Demaryius Thomas and 2.10. Thin at RB but don't trust Gore long term and attempting to rebuild. Figured it was a good opp to move Gore while he still had value, while potentially adding a perennial top 10 WR in Thomas.I traded the 2.02 this year to get him so that's about right.Frank Gore for 2014 1st (should be late)
One of the worst trades on this thread.That's stealing. Not representative of Gore's current value at all.I moved Gore + Miles Austin for Demaryius Thomas and 2.10. Thin at RB but don't trust Gore long term and attempting to rebuild. Figured it was a good opp to move Gore while he still had value, while potentially adding a perennial top 10 WR in Thomas.I traded the 2.02 this year to get him so that's about right.Frank Gore for 2014 1st (should be late)
Awful just awful trade - I would think Dem Thomas would help him win now and laterWow, really? Didn't think it was lopsided at all, always interesting to see others' opinions.
He's built to win now though and this trade can likely help him do that.
Because D. Thomas is a detriment to winning now?Wow, really? Didn't think it was lopsided at all, always interesting to see others' opinions. He's built to win now though and this trade can likely help him do that.