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I happen to like all three of the players B got for Harvin so I like that side.Team A gets: Percy Harvin, Doug Baldwin, 2014 4th
Team B gets: Markus Wheaton, Tavon Austin, Taylor Thompson, 2 2014 3rds.
I happen to like all three of the players B got for Harvin so I like that side.Team A gets: Percy Harvin, Doug Baldwin, 2014 4th
Team B gets: Markus Wheaton, Tavon Austin, Taylor Thompson, 2 2014 3rds.
I like both sides of this trade, particularly if the team getting Andre needs help this year at the WR position.A gets: Pierce (Rice owner), 2014 1st (mid)
B gets: Andre
Two days later, Team A traded David Wilson to Team C for T.Y. Hilton. :XTeam A gave up:
Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB
Spiller, C.J. BUF RB
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.06
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team A
Team B gave up:
Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB
Wilson, David NYG RB
Decker, Eric DEN WR
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.03
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team B
Notes:
1. 10 team Super Flex non-PPR league.
2. Team B has not won a title in the 3 year history of this league, but has put himself in position to start the following lineup this year: RGIII, Kaepernick, A. Foster, R. Rice, C.J. Spiller, A.J. Green, B. Marshall, Olsen. He also has Steven Jackson backing up these guys. Meanwhile, Team A is probably the 5th best team or so. This might help to frame the 2014 draft pick swap.
Wilson for Hilton, and in non-PPR??Two days later, Team A traded David Wilson to Team C for T.Y. Hilton. :X So the net outcome for Team A was to giveTeam A gave up:
Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB
Spiller, C.J. BUF RB
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.06
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team A
Team B gave up:
Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB
Wilson, David NYG RB
Decker, Eric DEN WR
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.03
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team B
Notes:
1. 10 team Super Flex non-PPR league.
2. Team B has not won a title in the 3 year history of this league, but has put himself in position to start the following lineup this year: RGIII, Kaepernick, A. Foster, R. Rice, C.J. Spiller, A.J. Green, B. Marshall, Olsen. He also has Steven Jackson backing up these guys. Meanwhile, Team A is probably the 5th best team or so. This might help to frame the 2014 draft pick swap.
Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB
Spiller, C.J. BUF RB
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.06
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team A
to get
Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB
Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
Decker, Eric DEN WR
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.03
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team B
Considering Team B's 2014 1st rounder will almost certainly be very late (IMO he is the favorite to win this season), that's a pretty poor haul for giving up Spiller.
Though the real issue is the second trade, not the first trade.
I'd rather have Sidney Rice in the deal, so no double wow for me.ConnSKINS26 said:I'm not sure Smith/Weeden is so cut and dry, by it's not important. My main point is that it's not worth one "wow", nevermind two. Its a pretty insignificant trade overall.LususV said:How fantasy relevant is Rice? WR4 or 5, and in decline? I wouldn't give a 3rd for him. Maybe a 4th if I were desperate for a bye week body in a competitive season.Alex Smith > Weeden.ConnSKINS26 said:Uhh...why?Not only do I disagree (but only by a little), but I can't even come up with a decent reason why you gave it two "wow"s.LususV said:Wow, team A by a mile. Wow.Matt said:Not involved in any of these trades:
12 team PPR, Dynasty
Team A gets
Alex Smith, Kerwynn Williams, 2014 2nd rounder
Team B gets
Brandon Weeden, Sidney Rice
Are you trading with yourself? You got Wayne and Johnson for nothing.I completed a few trades yesterday in a 12 Team PPR League.
Trade1:
Gave Jordan Reed+2014 2nd
Got Reggie Wayne
Trade 2:
Gave Roethlisberger
Got Stephen Hill
Trade 3:
Gave Stephen Hill+Markus Wheaton
Got Andre Johnson
Yeah. I am the side getting harvin. Looking back at it, I feel like I overpaid for sure. I guess I got caught up in the negotiations. Any other thoughts?cstu said:I happen to like all three of the players B got for Harvin so I like that side.cusefan115 said:Team A gets: Percy Harvin, Doug Baldwin, 2014 4th
Team B gets: Markus Wheaton, Tavon Austin, Taylor Thompson, 2 2014 3rds.
I just paid CMichael (2.06) and DHopkins (1.06) + 2014 2nd for Harvin and Mallett in a PPR supeflex league. Not sure if that is more or less but I feel good about it. I loved both my players but I really needed a top WR and trading Martin/Murray or Forte didn't seem like as good of an idea. I dont think Hopkins will be as good as Harvin for at least a few years...and Michael, well I hate losing him but I like having Harvin.Yeah. I am the side getting harvin. Looking back at it, I feel like I overpaid for sure. I guess I got caught up in the negotiations. Any other thoughts?cstu said:I happen to like all three of the players B got for Harvin so I like that side.cusefan115 said:Team A gets: Percy Harvin, Doug Baldwin, 2014 4th
Team B gets: Markus Wheaton, Tavon Austin, Taylor Thompson, 2 2014 3rds.
I like Pierce here, whether I owned Rice or not.Gave Lattimore
Received Pierce (Rice owner)
If you like Harvin more than Austin, you didn't overpay. Wheaton is a solid prospect, but not enough for me to pass on getting my guy. If that's Harvin for you - well done.Yeah. I am the side getting harvin. Looking back at it, I feel like I overpaid for sure. I guess I got caught up in the negotiations. Any other thoughts?cstu said:I happen to like all three of the players B got for Harvin so I like that side.cusefan115 said:Team A gets: Percy Harvin, Doug Baldwin, 2014 4th
Team B gets: Markus Wheaton, Tavon Austin, Taylor Thompson, 2 2014 3rds.
My Team10 team dynasty
Combination scoring
I got Andre Johnson.
I gave Lamar Miller
I had a rebuild year, last year
Both are good deals for you. The 2nd is a very big win. Your team got a lot better, very fast.League A
Yesterday I gave up Forte, Torrey Smtih, and reggie wayne
received Shady, Britt and Gonzo
I love getting a couple years younger at RB also feel shady is much more valuable at RB than forte, Wayne only has 2 years left so him for gonzo was a wash considering its 2PPR for TEs should help me compete this year, and I really think that Britt has a better chance to ever truly become a top 10 WR than smith. Smith just seems to be a guy that will always make his living off the deep ball.
Same league
gave up MJD and Mike williams TB
recieved Gronkowski and D-jax
I loved this trade because I am still very stable at RB with Shady and Charles get a huge upgrade at TE position
Thoughts??
Team B, getting Morris, et al, wins hugely.12 Team Non-PPR deal just went down:
Team A Receives:
LeSean McCoy
Stephen Hill
Robert Housler
Jason Witten
Team B receives:
Alfred Morris
Lance Dunbar
Jimmy Graham
Ed Dickson
I agree. I view McCoy and Graham as close to a wash, and the rest of the deal doesn't add up to Morris.Spike said:Team B, getting Morris, et al, wins hugely.
The packages do seem eerily similar. I felt pretty good about the deal when I first pulled it off. I started having second thoughts when I saw what other people were getting Harvin for. It seems strange to see a 25 y/o top 7 wr going so cheaply.I just paid CMichael (2.06) and DHopkins (1.06) + 2014 2nd for Harvin and Mallett in a PPR supeflex league. Not sure if that is more or less but I feel good about it. I loved both my players but I really needed a top WR and trading Martin/Murray or Forte didn't seem like as good of an idea. I dont think Hopkins will be as good as Harvin for at least a few years...and Michael, well I hate losing him but I like having Harvin.Yeah. I am the side getting harvin. Looking back at it, I feel like I overpaid for sure. I guess I got caught up in the negotiations. Any other thoughts?I happen to like all three of the players B got for Harvin so I like that side.Team A gets: Percy Harvin, Doug Baldwin, 2014 4th
Team B gets: Markus Wheaton, Tavon Austin, Taylor Thompson, 2 2014 3rds.
I think you did well. Harvin is what those 3 guys may be some day hope to be...I wouldn't count on it. You got the more proven player and the injury should not hamper him in the future.
I think abouit it this way a 2012 FA pickup TE, 1.01 and 2.01 and 2 2014 3rds for HArvin in this years draft. I would never have given Harvin up for that healthy or not
Yeah I felt like Harvin has an opportunity to be a more well rounded threat than Austin. The injuries scare me a bit but they still seem like dumb luck. I am in a position where I am shooting for contention in 2014 so losing austins production this year doesn't hurt. Its more a question of who produces at a higher level in the future. I have to say all of the buzz around austin and wheaton does have me startled though.If you like Harvin more than Austin, you didn't overpay. Wheaton is a solid prospect, but not enough for me to pass on getting my guy. If that's Harvin for you - well done.Yeah. I am the side getting harvin. Looking back at it, I feel like I overpaid for sure. I guess I got caught up in the negotiations. Any other thoughts?I happen to like all three of the players B got for Harvin so I like that side.Team A gets: Percy Harvin, Doug Baldwin, 2014 4th
Team B gets: Markus Wheaton, Tavon Austin, Taylor Thompson, 2 2014 3rds.
At one point after the injury, I offered Austin for Harvin. I think their value is pretty close right now. Tavon was likely my WR5 this year, so I felt fine losing out on 2013 production.
In this league RBs rule and TEs don't hold as much value, so Graham and McCoy wouldn't have equal value. I like both sides of this deal, but I think the guys in the league would side with Team A.I agree. I view McCoy and Graham as close to a wash, and the rest of the deal doesn't add up to Morris.Spike said:Team B, getting Morris, et al, wins hugely.
Assuming Graham and Gronk are a wash, Team A got 5 1sts and Josh Gordon for Foster and Roddy. Big win for Team A imo.Two recent trades in my league, not involved in either. Both trades involve the same teams:
A gave up:
Foster, Arian HOU RB
B gave up:
Pead, Isaiah STL RB
Gordon, Josh CLE WR
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 3 Draft Pick
Team A gave up:
White, Roddy ATL WR
Graham, Jimmy NOS TE
Team B gave up:
Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.08
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick
I don't think Team A is the same team in both deals.Assuming Graham and Gronk are a wash, Team A got 5 1sts and Josh Gordon for Foster and Roddy. Big win for Team A imo.Two recent trades in my league, not involved in either. Both trades involve the same teams:
A gave up:
Foster, Arian HOU RB
B gave up:
Pead, Isaiah STL RB
Gordon, Josh CLE WR
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 3 Draft Pick
Team A gave up:
White, Roddy ATL WR
Graham, Jimmy NOS TE
Team B gave up:
Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.08
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick
Just curious - does your league require them to pre-pay some part of the 2014/15/16 league buy-ins when trading those picks?Two recent trades in my league, not involved in either. Both trades involve the same teams:
A gave up:
Foster, Arian HOU RB
B gave up:
Pead, Isaiah STL RB
Gordon, Josh CLE WR
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 3 Draft Pick
Team A gave up:
White, Roddy ATL WR
Graham, Jimmy NOS TE
Team B gave up:
Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.08
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick
Not sure why you don't believe this. It is true. Why would someone lie about this?I don't think Team A is the same team in both deals.Assuming Graham and Gronk are a wash, Team A got 5 1sts and Josh Gordon for Foster and Roddy. Big win for Team A imo.Two recent trades in my league, not involved in either. Both trades involve the same teams:
A gave up:
Foster, Arian HOU RB
B gave up:
Pead, Isaiah STL RB
Gordon, Josh CLE WR
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 3 Draft Pick
Team A gave up:
White, Roddy ATL WR
Graham, Jimmy NOS TE
Team B gave up:
Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.08
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick
2 1st and 2 2nds for White is a pretty good pull the guy in my league was shocked when I wouldn't trade him White straight up for the 1.09
We are supposed to, but the rule has not been enforced to date. It should be now, but the owners in the trade are long time members.Just curious - does your league require them to pre-pay some part of the 2014/15/16 league buy-ins when trading those picks?Two recent trades in my league, not involved in either. Both trades involve the same teams:
A gave up:
Foster, Arian HOU RB
B gave up:
Pead, Isaiah STL RB
Gordon, Josh CLE WR
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 3 Draft Pick
Team A gave up:
White, Roddy ATL WR
Graham, Jimmy NOS TE
Team B gave up:
Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.08
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick
I did not notice it said " Both trades involve the same teams"...has nothing to do believing it or not.Not sure why you don't believe this. It is true. Why would someone lie about this?I don't think Team A is the same team in both deals.Assuming Graham and Gronk are a wash, Team A got 5 1sts and Josh Gordon for Foster and Roddy. Big win for Team A imo.Two recent trades in my league, not involved in either. Both trades involve the same teams:
A gave up:
Foster, Arian HOU RB
B gave up:
Pead, Isaiah STL RB
Gordon, Josh CLE WR
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 3 Draft Pick
Team A gave up:
White, Roddy ATL WR
Graham, Jimmy NOS TE
Team B gave up:
Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.08
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick
2 1st and 2 2nds for White is a pretty good pull the guy in my league was shocked when I wouldn't trade him White straight up for the 1.09
Who were top 12 picks in rookie draft? No reason Michael should slip to 2nd. Good trade for you with getting Michael, but pre-rookie draft I prefer Pierce+Hunter unless desperate for TE.Gave Pierce, Kendall Hunter, 3.07
Got Olsen, T. Gonzalez, Givens, 2.01 (used on Christine Michaels)
Only TE on roster was Gresham and I had Rice, MJD, Ivory, Sproles, Ballard so Pierce/Hunter expendable.Who were top 12 picks in rookie draft? No reason Michael should slip to 2nd. Good trade for you with getting Michael, but pre-rookie draft I prefer Pierce+Hunter unless desperate for TE.Gave Pierce, Kendall Hunter, 3.07
Got Olsen, T. Gonzalez, Givens, 2.01 (used on Christine Michaels)
Team A killed it in both dealsWe are supposed to, but the rule has not been enforced to date. It should be now, but the owners in the trade are long time members.Just curious - does your league require them to pre-pay some part of the 2014/15/16 league buy-ins when trading those picks?Two recent trades in my league, not involved in either. Both trades involve the same teams:
A gave up:
Foster, Arian HOU RB
B gave up:
Pead, Isaiah STL RB
Gordon, Josh CLE WR
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 3 Draft Pick
Team A gave up:
White, Roddy ATL WR
Graham, Jimmy NOS TE
Team B gave up:
Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE
Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.08
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick
As much as I love McCoy I think I have to take the other side, especially if they can flip Johnson and maybe even Forte.12 team superflex, PPR
Team A gave: L. McCoy, Bradshaw, D. Moore
Team B gave: L. Miller, M. Forte, S. Johnson
That's a sell low on Kaep IMO.12-team PPR, start 1 QB, 2WR, 2RB, 2 WR/RB Flex
Team A gave - Kaepernick and 49ers Defense (owner already had Brees and Newton)
Team B gave - Jordy Nelson and The Law Firm
This thread is so hard to gauge "selling low". First, you have to find a team in your specific league that actually needs a QB (Rodgers, Luck, RGIII, Ryan, Wilson, Brady and Peyton, in theory, cross 7 teams off the list as trade partners) and then you need to find a team that has a surplus of the position you need. With no TE-required, you are really just looking for RB or WRs.That's a sell low on Kaep IMO.12-team PPR, start 1 QB, 2WR, 2RB, 2 WR/RB Flex
Team A gave - Kaepernick and 49ers Defense (owner already had Brees and Newton)
Team B gave - Jordy Nelson and The Law Firm
You got fleeced. Graham in 1.5 is worth more than that. How do you have a 1.14 in a 12 team league?12 team PPR start qb,2rb,2wrte,3 flex rb,wr,te 1.5 ppr for te
I gave up big ben, jimmy graham
I received 1.1, 1.6, 1.10, 1.14 2013 draft picks. Romo and greg olsen