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Have fun man, should be a great day for football.Heading to the home opener tomorrow! Excited and I hope we roll tomorrow. FLY EAGLES FLY!
Have fun man, should be a great day for football.Heading to the home opener tomorrow! Excited and I hope we roll tomorrow. FLY EAGLES FLY!
I agree with this. Much more worried about how the KC game will go. I'm not sure how well our offense could perform on a super short week against what seems to be a quality defense.I think it's more the intangibles. West coast team coming east to play a 10am game after a short week combined with a heartbreaking 4th quarter loss. Add to that what Philly's offense did and I can see the 9 pt spread.heard today that eagles are a 9 point favorite. seems crazy, but chargers' o is really poor. if we come out and get a couple of early TD's, it will be over. We will destroy Dunlap and Fluker and tee off on Rivers.
Ill be there too- first time in ten years. Can't wait!Heading to the home opener tomorrow! Excited and I hope we roll tomorrow. FLY EAGLES FLY!
We have potential. We also have a DC that could be playing up more times then not-hopefully. And we don't have an OL coach running the D. Those who predict us to have a crap D seem to always forget my last point.How do you guys feel about the D today......a few weeks ago I figured they would get steamrolled every week now an considering picking them up for theis week. Fatal homer mistake you think or do we have some potential?
Well if your defense gets a negative for points allowed I wouldn't bother, they're not going to keep people from scoring. Rivers can turn the ball over and the special teams have the potential to return something, but I dont see anything special about them yet. Then again, I don't care too much about my defense, it's all a crap shoot.How do you guys feel about the D today......a few weeks ago I figured they would get steamrolled every week now an considering picking them up for theis week. Fatal homer mistake you think or do we have some potential?
I'm starting them over kc this week...How do you guys feel about the D today......a few weeks ago I figured they would get steamrolled every week now an considering picking them up for theis week. Fatal homer mistake you think or do we have some potential?
Talked about it a lot in the rent a defense thread. I picked up Philly over Car, Oak, Dal and KC. I like the combination of a west coast team coming east and playing at 10am with a short week and a devastating MNF loss. Add to that the Philly defense was aggressive making turnovers and sacks along with the offense putting pressure on SD to score every time and I think they are a great play this week.How do you guys feel about the D today......a few weeks ago I figured they would get steamrolled every week now an considering picking them up for theis week. Fatal homer mistake you think or do we have some potential?
Love the D in some scoring formats...hate it in others. Sacks and turnovers and a chance for TD are there...but most leagues give negative points for big yards allowed or high points. IN those leagues I'd steer clear.How do you guys feel about the D today......a few weeks ago I figured they would get steamrolled every week now an considering picking them up for theis week. Fatal homer mistake you think or do we have some potential?
Thanks buddy. I want to vomit now...Billy Bats said:Wow, Schefter just reported that the Eagles were real close to obtaining Kaepernick prior to the 2012 draft for a 2nd. They backed out becuase they thought they could draft Wilson, and wound up with Foles.
So glad we have the inactive Vinny Curry instead.....Billy Bats said:Wow, Schefter just reported that the Eagles were real close to obtaining Kaepernick prior to the 2012 draft for a 2nd. They backed out becuase they thought they could draft Wilson, and wound up with Foles.
Still waiting for a Rivers incompletion....Redskins are open every single play. Incompletes only seem to happen when Griffin overthrows.... Defense probably fools gold the first half with Griffin rusty...we're still not stopping any quality offenses this year.
Problem was last 2 years they were horribly coached with little to no depth. This year they have a better coached but the players are worse. Already seen one of our CBs looking at the safety like "where were you" and that happened all last season. The common between this year and last year? Nate Allen.Didn't think the defense could be worse than last year. But they're getting a run for their money. No pass rush at all. Bad secondary. Can't get off the field on 3rd down. Terrible.
Wow. :( Wilson or CK would have been amazing. And I'm a huge Foles fan as well.Billy Bats said:Wow, Schefter just reported that the Eagles were real close to obtaining Kaepernick prior to the 2012 draft for a 2nd. They backed out becuase they thought they could draft Wilson, and wound up with Foles.
Whenever I see Allen I instantly think "Earl". Its one of their biggest blunders in the past few years imho. It isn't even a "hingsight is 20/20" thing either because Thomas WAS the pick they should have gone with. I think damn near everyone outside the Eagles war room knew that.
It is pretty bad though. Like I have said, there is only so much you can do in one offseason. They basically had to gut CB & S because what Reid left this team with was horrible.
I wish they would have thought about keeping Nnamdi and DRC or one of them at least. I guess they didn't realize that coaching could have been that bad last season, that it must be mostly the players.
I think the hype train exploded in the first half of the first game, when the reality is this team needs some work and the system has to prove itself
luckly for eagles fans the entire division is floundering, so if things come together they could still be ok
I couldn't watch the game...are you saying PHL left about 2 TDs on the field? Or did they score on those drives?What a game of missed opportunities:
Frustrating game, couldn't cover, couldn't get any rush, couldn't get out of our own way on offense.
- Overthrow and out of bounds throws to Jackson when open deep
- Drop (a tough one maybe) by Jackson when open deep
- Bad throw / drop for Casey in the end zone
- TD pass called back on a illegal formation penalty
- Couldn't recover fumbled kickoff
- Blown coverage by Cary Williams on Royal's 2nd TD catch. I think that was supposed to be quarters but Williams followed his man inside.
- Missed field goal by Henery
On the plus side, the big 3 are looking better than they have in a long time, Vick hasn't turned the ball over (I don't count that bogus "lateral"), they're moving the ball a ton and scoring points.
I couldn't watch the game...are you saying PHL left about 2 TDs on the field? Or did they score on those drives?What a game of missed opportunities:
Frustrating game, couldn't cover, couldn't get any rush, couldn't get out of our own way on offense.
- Overthrow and out of bounds throws to Jackson when open deep
- Drop (a tough one maybe) by Jackson when open deep
- Bad throw / drop for Casey in the end zone
- TD pass called back on a illegal formation penalty
- Couldn't recover fumbled kickoff
- Blown coverage by Cary Williams on Royal's 2nd TD catch. I think that was supposed to be quarters but Williams followed his man inside.
- Missed field goal by Henery
On the plus side, the big 3 are looking better than they have in a long time, Vick hasn't turned the ball over (I don't count that bogus "lateral"), they're moving the ball a ton and scoring points.
you have to be fair and mention the two gifted fumbles from the Chargers when they were in the red zone. Nearly balances all that stuff out.What a game of missed opportunities:
Frustrating game, couldn't cover, couldn't get any rush, couldn't get out of our own way on offense.
- Overthrow and out of bounds throws to Jackson when open deep
- Drop (a tough one maybe) by Jackson when open deep
- Bad throw / drop for Casey in the end zone
- TD pass called back on a illegal formation penalty
- Couldn't recover fumbled kickoff
- Blown coverage by Cary Williams on Royal's 2nd TD catch. I think that was supposed to be quarters but Williams followed his man inside.
- Missed field goal by Henery
On the plus side, the big 3 are looking better than they have in a long time, Vick hasn't turned the ball over (I don't count that bogus "lateral"), they're moving the ball a ton and scoring points.
Why did Foles come into the game?Was surprised that they didn't try to run on the play when Foles came in.
I think Chip is going to do what he said the entire time. He's going to alter his gameplan based upon what team he faces and I think after 2 weeks it's pretty clear. SD couldnt stop the pass at all, there was no real need to run the ball when Vick was doing as well as he was.Yeah, I think everyone was pretty realistic about what would happen this season, especially on defense.
The offense certainly had its struggles, but still can pick up yards and points in a flash. The final drive was pretty weak, though, when they really needed a TD.
And where was the running game? It was about 65% passing plays. Unless Chip just really saw that SD's pass defense was so horrid that he wanted to exploit that. But I think that a little more of a mix would have helped. Was surprised that they didn't try to run on the play when Foles came in.
Vick got slammed to the ground after releasing a pass just before the 2-minute warning in the 2nd half. He was really shaken up, so Foles came in for 1 play.Why did Foles come into the game?Was surprised that they didn't try to run on the play when Foles came in.
I can see what you're saying, and, as I said, that game plan would make some sense. But the offense also bogged down a bit at times, including at a key moment on the final drive and I wonder if getting a little more running into the mix would have helped.I think Chip is going to do what he said the entire time. He's going to alter his gameplan based upon what team he faces and I think after 2 weeks it's pretty clear. SD couldnt stop the pass at all, there was no real need to run the ball when Vick was doing as well as he was.Yeah, I think everyone was pretty realistic about what would happen this season, especially on defense.
The offense certainly had its struggles, but still can pick up yards and points in a flash. The final drive was pretty weak, though, when they really needed a TD.
And where was the running game? It was about 65% passing plays. Unless Chip just really saw that SD's pass defense was so horrid that he wanted to exploit that. But I think that a little more of a mix would have helped. Was surprised that they didn't try to run on the play when Foles came in.
I thought the Foles pass was the right call. 99% of the time when the back-up QB comes in you're expecting a run.
Other than this play, how did Vick do regarding protecting himself? Did he dive head first into any piles trying to block for McCoy this week?Long Ball Larry said:Vick got slammed to the ground after releasing a pass just before the 2-minute warning in the 2nd half. He was really shaken up, so Foles came in for 1 play.Steeler said:Why did Foles come into the game?Long Ball Larry said:Was surprised that they didn't try to run on the play when Foles came in.
I don't. At the end of the day you have to stop somebody. Anybody. At least a couple times in a row. At the end of the day it's points scored versus points given up. The offense held their end of the bargin IM but then again I dont believe in the "scoring too soon" stuff. Hanging 30 should be enough to beat SD at home IMO.Long Ball Larry said:I can see what you're saying, and, as I said, that game plan would make some sense. But the offense also bogged down a bit at times, including at a key moment on the final drive and I wonder if getting a little more running into the mix would have helped.Bigboy10182000 said:I think Chip is going to do what he said the entire time. He's going to alter his gameplan based upon what team he faces and I think after 2 weeks it's pretty clear. SD couldnt stop the pass at all, there was no real need to run the ball when Vick was doing as well as he was.Long Ball Larry said:Yeah, I think everyone was pretty realistic about what would happen this season, especially on defense.
The offense certainly had its struggles, but still can pick up yards and points in a flash. The final drive was pretty weak, though, when they really needed a TD.
And where was the running game? It was about 65% passing plays. Unless Chip just really saw that SD's pass defense was so horrid that he wanted to exploit that. But I think that a little more of a mix would have helped. Was surprised that they didn't try to run on the play when Foles came in.
I thought the Foles pass was the right call. 99% of the time when the back-up QB comes in you're expecting a run.
Me too, thought that was a really strange call. It was just before the 2 min warning so time wasn't an issue. Take a cold QB and have him throw a fade to the smallest guy on the field. Seemed almost like a designed throw away, but what's the point? I thought they should have just run it as well.Long Ball Larry said:Was surprised that they didn't try to run on the play when Foles came in.
You guys know that was by design right? Why else do you guys think Eric Weddle was up playing ILB. He was shadowing Shady and Vick in the running game.Bigboy10182000 said:I think Chip is going to do what he said the entire time. He's going to alter his gameplan based upon what team he faces and I think after 2 weeks it's pretty clear. SD couldnt stop the pass at all, there was no real need to run the ball when Vick was doing as well as he was.Long Ball Larry said:Yeah, I think everyone was pretty realistic about what would happen this season, especially on defense.
The offense certainly had its struggles, but still can pick up yards and points in a flash. The final drive was pretty weak, though, when they really needed a TD.
And where was the running game? It was about 65% passing plays. Unless Chip just really saw that SD's pass defense was so horrid that he wanted to exploit that. But I think that a little more of a mix would have helped. Was surprised that they didn't try to run on the play when Foles came in.
I thought the Foles pass was the right call. 99% of the time when the back-up QB comes in you're expecting a run.
Balance isn't the point. If you want to win, you need to take advantage of (almost) every opportunity. That includes the ones your opponent gives you as well as the ones you create for yourself.you have to be fair and mention the two gifted fumbles from the Chargers when they were in the red zone. Nearly balances all that stuff out.
SD wanted PHL to throw for 425 yards?You guys know that was by design right? Why else do you guys think Eric Weddle was up playing ILB. He was shadowing Shady and Vick in the running game.Bigboy10182000 said:I think Chip is going to do what he said the entire time. He's going to alter his gameplan based upon what team he faces and I think after 2 weeks it's pretty clear. SD couldnt stop the pass at all, there was no real need to run the ball when Vick was doing as well as he was.Long Ball Larry said:Yeah, I think everyone was pretty realistic about what would happen this season, especially on defense.
The offense certainly had its struggles, but still can pick up yards and points in a flash. The final drive was pretty weak, though, when they really needed a TD.
And where was the running game? It was about 65% passing plays. Unless Chip just really saw that SD's pass defense was so horrid that he wanted to exploit that. But I think that a little more of a mix would have helped. Was surprised that they didn't try to run on the play when Foles came in.
I thought the Foles pass was the right call. 99% of the time when the back-up QB comes in you're expecting a run.
The bolded was the problem. Like someone else said they're probably expecting run, so I like the pass call, just not THAT pass.Me too, thought that was a really strange call. It was just before the 2 min warning so time wasn't an issue. Take a cold QB and have him throw a fade to the smallest guy on the field.. Seemed almost like a designed throw away, but what's the point? I thought they should have just run it as well.Long Ball Larry said:Was surprised that they didn't try to run on the play when Foles came in.