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Despite how common the Melvin Gordon/Jamaal Charles comparison is, I think it's rather inaccurate. They look similar with their hair and their kind of gliding run style, but that's where the similarities end imo. A disproportionate amount of Gordon's success comes from outside runs where he just blows by everybody in a straight line. Jamaal Charles on the other hand has some of the best cutting ability in the league; his ability to make cuts and contort his body to run at angles without losing speed is perhaps matched by no one in the NFL. Gordon doesn't have either of those skills anywhere close to Jamaal Charles' level, and seeing how that's such a huge part of Charles' success I think it makes the Charles/Gordon a rather poor comparison. Not to mention Charles does have elite quickness and speed whereas Gordon doesn't imo.Gordon is a clone of J. Charles, how do you know he can't catch? James White(scat back) had those opportunities last year and White + Montee Ball the year before. That was a stacked group, so i'm unsure you can count his redshirt freshman year against him. That's like discounting Corey Clement's 1 reception his freshman season...funny how you don't mention it.Better from a fantasy standpoint, which is what I personally care about. Gordon's game just won't translate to the NFL very well imo, or at the very least his game is abnormal enough from the majority of NFL backs who have success that I wouldn't be comfortable at all in predicting NFL success in his future. He's got good long speed but he's not very quick, he's got really long strides which is unideal, he's got 3 receptions in 3 years, his cutting ability is mediocre, and despite being jacked he still weighs under 210lbs, which is awfully light for a 6'1 back.What's your definition of "better NFL career"?Guy's just your prototypical workhorse NFL back imo. He's stocky, runs with power (particularly for a true freshman), has great quickness, and makes sharp cuts while losing little speed. He hasn't proven it yet, but I think he'll prove to be a good weapon in the passing game this season. He might only have 4.5 wheels and he could prob do with putting on 5-10lbs before his NFL combine in 2016, but all in all he seems like a real safe pick to have a successful NFL career; I think he'll have a better NFL career than his teammate Melvin Gordon FWIW.Corey Clement fans/owners, why are you so high on him? How would your 2016 RBs rank?
Can't say I'm familiar with enough names in the 2016 RB class to offer much of a proper ranking, but I'd have to imagine I'd have Clement near the very top.
You've said Gordon is overrated (Which I disagree with), but I think Clement is overrated as well. He's ranked by DLF as a top 5 Devy RB and I've seen him go in the 1st or 2nd of 3 startup Devys. Two of them are 10-rounds, and one is a 15-rounder. At that slot, I'd pass on him.
Compare that to Clement, who's stockier, quicker, has short strides, and has excellent cutting ability. If he can add some receptions to his resume this year he'll basically check off all the most important and typical skills that the majority of successful NFL RBs possess. In massive 10/15 round Devy drafts he's definitely worth a 1st/2nd round pick imo. Though I'd rather grab a draft eligible guy in the first round like Karlos Williams or Mike Davis then grab Clement later.
Doesn't Charles have long strides?
Gordon isn't quick?
Mediocre cutting ability?
Gordon is smooth and effortless, don't confuse that with non-athletic. He has good cutting ability/vision/acceleration. I'd argue that his acceleration is better than his speed. His long speed is good, but he's not running in the 4.3's IMO. He gets up to top gear quickly(acceleration).
Keep in mind, you're excited about Corey Clement's abilities based on playing Tenn. Tech/Purdue/Indiana/U Mass. I'd want to see more production before investing a top 20 devy pick in a player that is 3 years away from contributing to my FF team. I felt the same way regarding D. Henry, but I didn't about Gurley/Yeldon because they already had 1,000 yard 6 YPC seasons under their belts at the same age.
And I did mention Clement's lack of receptions in both of my posts about him; but basically I'm willing to give Clement a pass on it before Gordon because Gordon's been in the offense for 3 seasons whereas Clement's only been in it for 1. If Clement ends up getting no receptions this season and Gordon gets a bunch then my prospects for Clement and Gordon will definitely change to some degree, but honestly I don't anticipate that situation happening; I think Clement could have as much if not more receptions than Gordon this year, but we'll see for sure.
And yes I'm basing my opinions of Clement based on games against Tenn. Tech/Purdue/Indiana/U Mass, but I'm not just looking at his stats are presuming he'll be able to continue that, I'm actually watching him play and based on the skills I've believed he has displayed am predicting future success against other opponents; it's an important distinction.