2019 College football thread - It's 2020, yo. Go to the new thread. (2 Viewers)

[gump]

Usually they not only want that, but to skip practices.  

This also has everyone in a tizzy...but it has to be waaaaay too early for most kids to know what their plan is yet.

https://www.si.com/college/alabama/bamacentral/clark-story-nfl-draft-returning-players/

 

[Doug B]

So would Notre Dame. 

Both ND and Texas A&M traveled to Georgia this year and both lost by six.

Playing Michigan's 2019 schedule, A&M would get ND at Kyle Field (Iowa at home, too, for that matter).

All that establishes not much conclusive. Plenty of support for differing opinions.

 

[Capella]

Missouri paying Drinkwitz $4MM/year off of one season with an inherited team seems like malpractice by that AD. 

750k to 4M. Guess that works out for him. 

 

[Politician Spock]

Both ND and Texas A&M traveled to Georgia this year and both lost by six.

Playing Michigan's 2019 schedule, A&M would get ND at Kyle Field (Iowa at home, too, for that matter).

All that establishes not much conclusive. Plenty of support for differing opinions.

We know conclusively that Michigan can beat Iowa and ND. It happened.

Texas A&M beating them is pure speculation, and even you admitted they would struggle vs Iowa. 

 

[culdeus]

This also has everyone in a tizzy...but it has to be waaaaay too early for most kids to know what their plan is yet.

https://www.si.com/college/alabama/bamacentral/clark-story-nfl-draft-returning-players/

People really care about these exhibition game wins I guess.

 

[Politician Spock]

People really care about these exhibition game wins I guess.

So much that we have them instead of a real playoff. 

 

[culdeus]

Sec favored in every game.   

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Lane Kiffin asked about his reception at Ole Miss and kissing babies at the airport after arriving there: "It's a lot better than another tarmac experience that I had."

 

[gump]

People really care about these exhibition game wins I guess.

That article (and it's tizzy) is about players leaving early, not so much the bowl participation.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

That article (and it's tizzy) is about players leaving early, not so much the bowl participation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGZrFyko2PU

Nick Saban shares thoughts on players leaving early for NFL Draft, how he's changed how he recruits

 

[Doug B]

We know conclusively that Michigan can beat Iowa and ND. It happened.

Texas A&M beating them is pure speculation, and even you admitted they would struggle vs Iowa. 

All my point really was: Texas A&M and Michigan aren't so far apart that one should be considered a trash-team speedbump while the other is being considered to have been a serious challenge to a CFP team.

 

[General Malaise]

Lane Kiffin asked about his reception at Ole Miss and kissing babies at the airport after arriving there: "It's a lot better than another tarmac experience that I had."

That's funny!  I am rooting for Kiffin.  I like redemption stories and he seems to be owning his baggage.  

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

After seeing the bowl games this year .    What could be  https://twitter.com/TimBrando/status/1204157541397278720/photo/1  so much more entertaining. 

 

[Capella]

Edit: Serious answer, no idea. He did nothing here. Gus' playbook, Gus called the plays, Gus coached the QBs, Gus yelled nascar.

Dillingham told Gus where the safeties lined up (actually true).

Sounds like he was Norvell’s guy previously

 

[Politician Spock]

All my point really was: Texas A&M and Michigan aren't so far apart that one should be considered a trash-team speedbump while the other is being considered to have been a serious challenge to a CFP team.

Without A&M having beat someone better than a 6-6 team, it takes huge grains of salt to think A&M is as good as Michigan, given we know Michigan is good enough to beat ND and Iowa. 

I understand what you are saying, but I don't take huge flying leaps just because someone else is willing to take a huge flying leap. Good luck with your leap. 

 

[Politician Spock]

When Wisconsin loses to OSU tonight, PSU will pass them in the rankings and get the Rose Bowl bid from B1G. 

Wisconsin may not drop at all after losing to OSU, given their ranking already includes losing to OSU. 

Why wouldn't they?  They would've lost twice to OSU.  You're telling me that a three loss Wisconsin team stays ahead of a 2 loss PSU team that as of this moment gave OSU its best game to date?  Interesting... 

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. 

 

[Tom Servo]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. 

A three loss team in the top 10. <_<  

If that was PSU, they’d have been dropped into the high teens. 

 

[Politician Spock]

A three loss team in the top 10. <_<  

If that was PSU, they’d have been dropped into the high teens. 

Probably true.

I think the voters keep 'em high because they  just like to say WisKAHNsin. 

 

[Tom Servo]

Probably true.

I think the voters keep 'em high because they  just like to say WisKAHNsin. 

Realistically, a three loss team has no business being in the Top 10. 

 

[Politician Spock]

Realistically, a three loss team has no business being in the Top 10. 

I agree.

And a 5 loss team has no business being in the top 25. 

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Heisman finalists include OU quarterback Jalen Hurts, LSU quarterback Joe Burrow, Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields and Ohio State defensive end Chase Young

 

[Capella]

Realistically, a three loss team has no business being in the Top 10. 

Of course they should be. Wisconsin and PSU has the same regular-season record. Why should Wisconsin get knocked for playing an extra game against OSU?

 

[Kal El]

He's perfect right where he currently is. 

No, no he isn't. Michigan needs a better coach, and unless/until that happens, they'll continue to be irrelevant.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I honestly can't believe Wisconsin is favored.  I will be betting a lot on Oregon ML.

Especially since Jonathan Taylor will probably sit it out.

 

[Don't Noonan]

Especially since Jonathan Taylor will probably sit it out.

I thought I read he was going to play

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I thought I read he was going to play

That’s what was he said right after game.  We all know that can change over next few weeks when he gets advice from others.

 

[Tom Servo]

Of course they should be. Wisconsin and PSU has the same regular-season record. Why should Wisconsin get knocked for playing an extra game against OSU?

Are we going to apply that same standard if they won?  If they don't get penalized for losing, then theoretically they shouldn't get rewarded for winning.

 

[Politician Spock]

Are we going to apply that same standard if they won?  If they don't get penalized for losing, then theoretically they shouldn't get rewarded for winning.

Are you new here?

Winning doesn't matter. It's how good the teams that you lost to are that matter. 

 

[Capella]

Are we going to apply that same standard if they won?  If they don't get penalized for losing, then theoretically they shouldn't get rewarded for winning.

Galaxy brain take. 
 

when you are comparing two teams with the same regular-season record they aren’t going to reward Penn State for not making the conference title game. 

 

[RUSF18]

Are we going to apply that same standard if they won?  If they don't get penalized for losing, then theoretically they shouldn't get rewarded for winning.

Yikes. You can do better. 

 

[CletiusMaximus]

A three loss team in the top 10. <_<  

If that was PSU, they’d have been dropped into the high teens. 

That upper-midwest flyover country media bias strikes again!

 

[CletiusMaximus]

After seeing the bowl games this year .    What could be  https://twitter.com/TimBrando/status/1204157541397278720/photo/1  so much more entertaining. 

I'm not sure whether its more entertaining, but I think if they do something like this they absolutely have to find a way to play the players.

 

[culdeus]

After seeing the bowl games this year .    What could be  https://twitter.com/TimBrando/status/1204157541397278720/photo/1  so much more entertaining. 

3 blowouts and OU/OU fighting to get blown out in the next week by LSU?

In this world what is the point of the conference championship?  

 

[Tom Servo]

Yikes. You can do better. 

You’ve seen me post for a few years. I’m capable of brain farts. 

 

[Politician Spock]

In this world what is the point of the conference championship?  

OSU has won the B1G Championship game 3 years in a row... and in each year they fell in the CFP rankings the next day.

So once we have a playoff, the point of the B1G conference championship game is to win it so you can fall in the 8 team CFP seedings. And I'd be perfectly fine with that as long as we have December Madness!!!

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

3 blowouts and OU/OU fighting to get blown out in the next week by LSU?

In this world what is the point of the conference championship?  

FCS quarterfinals are this weekend.  #1 North Dakota St is favored by 3 touchdowns and #2 James Madison is favored by 12.5.  There's probably a sharp drop off from the elite to the very good at all levels.

 

[Doug B]

OSU has won the B1G Championship game 3 years in a row... and in each year they fell in the CFP rankings the next day.

This is just an artifact of human judgment over the process. A reasonable subjective argument can be made for any of LSU, Ohio State, and Clemson to be #1 in the CFP. An airtight, perfectly logical objective argument for the same cannot be made. The facts on the table don't fully support any one outcome. Fully support, that is -- leaving no room for argument.

For reference:

"Shaquille O'Neal is taller than Lil' Kim" = Fully-supported fact. You break out a tape measure and get an objective result.

"Shaq's apple pie is better than Lil' Kim's apple pie" = Fully-supported facts can be brought to bear about the pies (baking temperature, quantities of ingredients, etc.), but the bolded statement itself can never be objectively supported.

 

[Osaurus]

Gasparilla Bowl is now at RayJay? HFS! Upgrade. 
 

ETA: Great thing about RayJay is my office is nearby and I get free parking. 

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

3 blowouts and OU/OU fighting to get blown out in the next week by LSU?

In this world what is the point of the conference championship?  

Are you saying the bowl match ups outide of the playoffs are more entertaining than that proposed 8 team playoff? 

Conference Championship to make it to the playoffs.?  Kinda like they do the NCAA BB tournament maybe? 

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

I'm not sure whether its more entertaining, but I think if they do something like this they absolutely have to find a way to play the players.

Today I saw a column on the players "That should sit out" of their bowl games.  https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/college-football-players-skipping-bowl-season-NFL-Draft-Alabama-Crimson-Tide-Jerry-Jeudy-Derrick-Brown-Epenesa-140166141/

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

FCS quarterfinals are this weekend.  #1 North Dakota St is favored by 3 touchdowns and #2 James Madison is favored by 12.5.  There's probably a sharp drop off from the elite to the very good at all levels.

Yeah probably shouldn't watch since it has already been settled by Vegas. 

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Yeah probably shouldn't watch since it has already been settled by Vegas. 

Yeah, that's what I clearly said.  Great work in here

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Today I saw a column on the players "That should sit out" of their bowl games.  https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/college-football-players-skipping-bowl-season-NFL-Draft-Alabama-Crimson-Tide-Jerry-Jeudy-Derrick-Brown-Epenesa-140166141/

Alabama supposedly has a half dozen or more 1st and 2nd round players.  I wouldn't expect any of them to play again. 

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Alabama supposedly has a half dozen or more 1st and 2nd round players.  I wouldn't expect any of them to play again. 

Millions of dollars at risk vs. cool shirt and some xbox games. 

 

[General Malaise]

Spoken like someone who has never had Shaq's apple pie. 

He asked Kobe how it tasted in a rap, once.

 

[General Malaise]

Washington is +3.5 vs Boise State in the Las Vegas Bowl.  Same sort of set-up as the one played two years ago where Boise State beat the horse piss out of Oregon and their new HC Mario Cristobal.  Boise State is a good team and I think UW gave up on the season.  $$$$$ on the Broncos to win this one.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Washington is +3.5 vs Boise State in the Las Vegas Bowl.  Same sort of set-up as the one played two years ago where Boise State beat the horse piss out of Oregon and their new HC Mario Cristobal.  Boise State is a good team and I think UW gave up on the season.  $$$$$ on the Broncos to win this one.

Is Chris Peterson coaching the bowl game?   Not too familiar with Washington program but would they get up for the game to win one for him in his last game especially against his former team?

 

[facook]

Is Chris Peterson coaching the bowl game?   Not too familiar with Washington program but would they get up for the game to win one for him in his last game especially against his former team?

Yep

 

[JaxBill]

whoops

@Brett_McMurphy: Official ⁦@RedboxBowl⁩ T-shirts for this year’s contest b/w “Cal State” & Illinois h/t ⁦@GoldenBlogs⁩ https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1204483503351427073/photo/1

 

[General Malaise]

Is Chris Peterson coaching the bowl game?   Not too familiar with Washington program but would they get up for the game to win one for him in his last game especially against his former team?

Oh, great point.  Thanks!  Think he is and I think I will lower my wagering gusto on this one.