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/thread44 y.o. 5'10, 190 lbs, 43" chest, 33" waist, can run 3 miles, do ~10 pull ups, ~50 push ups, ~75 situps, resting heart rate is below 60.
BMI says I'm overweight and "halfway" to obese.
/thread44 y.o. 5'10, 190 lbs, 43" chest, 33" waist, can run 3 miles, do ~10 pull ups, ~50 push ups, ~75 situps, resting heart rate is below 60.
BMI says I'm overweight and "halfway" to obese.
what percent of males, who are 5'10" and weigh 190 pounds, are out of shape and overweight? 80%? 90%?/thread44 y.o. 5'10, 190 lbs, 43" chest, 33" waist, can run 3 miles, do ~10 pull ups, ~50 push ups, ~75 situps, resting heart rate is below 60.
BMI says I'm overweight and "halfway" to obese.
dunno. I'm 6' and 200... most definitely out of shape and overweight.what percent of males, who are 5'10" and weigh 190 pounds, are out of shape and overweight? 80%? 90%?/thread44 y.o. 5'10, 190 lbs, 43" chest, 33" waist, can run 3 miles, do ~10 pull ups, ~50 push ups, ~75 situps, resting heart rate is below 60.
BMI says I'm overweight and "halfway" to obese.
Are you saying generally speaking? I've ALWAYS had a high resting HR - even when I weighed 120-130 and just out of HS and played sports year round. I don't pay as much attention to it nowadays but I assume it's still high by comparison to other people my age/weight, etc.Absolutely.resting heart rate? You serious clark?it's a tool. one that you can use without seeing a doctor. But in the end, the only benefit is it gives you a baseline for your height.solid anecdotal evidence in here. you have me convinced that it is useless
It even states that the calculator isn't perfect for athletic types.
I just think resting heart rate is a more useful tool.
I didn't mean to separate them, they're tools that can and should be used together.HR is measured by clinicians at nearly every visit but it doesn't really represent a major risk factor for disease as does BMI. Although extremes in HR are definitely more immediately concerning than extremes in BMI...
of course these are general statements. Curious as to what yours was and is.Are you saying generally speaking? I've ALWAYS had a high resting HR - even when I weighed 120-130 and just out of HS and played sports year round. I don't pay as much attention to it nowadays but I assume it's still high by comparison to other people my age/weight, etc.Absolutely.resting heart rate? You serious clark?it's a tool. one that you can use without seeing a doctor. But in the end, the only benefit is it gives you a baseline for your height.solid anecdotal evidence in here. you have me convinced that it is useless
It even states that the calculator isn't perfect for athletic types.
I just think resting heart rate is a more useful tool.
Can you shed a little more light on this? I know it has something to do with a buffet and pooping.culdeus said:If you can squat three plates then throw your BMI out.
half?what percent of males, who are 5'10" and weigh 190 pounds, are out of shape and overweight? 80%? 90%?/thread44 y.o. 5'10, 190 lbs, 43" chest, 33" waist, can run 3 miles, do ~10 pull ups, ~50 push ups, ~75 situps, resting heart rate is below 60.
BMI says I'm overweight and "halfway" to obese.
As a surrogate measure for body fat, I like BMI + waist:hip or waist:height ratios. Central fat has the highest disease correlation anyways.I'm not sure how HR would be incorporated.I didn't mean to separate them, they're tools that can and should be used together.HR is measured by clinicians at nearly every visit but it doesn't really represent a major risk factor for disease as does BMI. Although extremes in HR are definitely more immediately concerning than extremes in BMI...
talking american males here.half?what percent of males, who are 5'10" and weigh 190 pounds, are out of shape and overweight? 80%? 90%?/thread44 y.o. 5'10, 190 lbs, 43" chest, 33" waist, can run 3 miles, do ~10 pull ups, ~50 push ups, ~75 situps, resting heart rate is below 60.
BMI says I'm overweight and "halfway" to obese.
Normally in 70's. My buddy who I used to run with some was a track athlete at Duke. His was like low 40's from what I remember.of course these are general statements. Curious as to what yours was and is.Are you saying generally speaking? I've ALWAYS had a high resting HR - even when I weighed 120-130 and just out of HS and played sports year round. I don't pay as much attention to it nowadays but I assume it's still high by comparison to other people my age/weight, etc.Absolutely.resting heart rate? You serious clark?it's a tool. one that you can use without seeing a doctor. But in the end, the only benefit is it gives you a baseline for your height.solid anecdotal evidence in here. you have me convinced that it is useless
It even states that the calculator isn't perfect for athletic types.
I just think resting heart rate is a more useful tool.
I'd be concerned if my rHR were over 100, while between 60-80 is fine.
This isn't an area where extreme low scores win (although the last time I measured mine it was 41).
Well yes. There are plenty of better measurements to take. But BMI is an easy, quick and dirty measurement that is sufficient for a huge percentage of the population. Nobody has stated that it is perfect.Body fat %, not bmi.
What kind of evidence did you want on a fantasy football message board?solid anecdotal evidence in here. you have me convinced that it is useless
i wish it were sufficient for less because that means more of them would be exercising.Well yes. There are plenty of better measurements to take. But BMI is an easy, quick and dirty measurement that is sufficient for a huge percentage of the population. Nobody has stated that it is perfect.Body fat %, not bmi.
It's within the normal healthy range, no biggie.AAABatteries said:Normally in 70's. My buddy who I used to run with some was a track athlete at Duke. His was like low 40's from what I remember.of course these are general statements. Curious as to what yours was and is.Are you saying generally speaking? I've ALWAYS had a high resting HR - even when I weighed 120-130 and just out of HS and played sports year round. I don't pay as much attention to it nowadays but I assume it's still high by comparison to other people my age/weight, etc.Absolutely.resting heart rate? You serious clark?it's a tool. one that you can use without seeing a doctor. But in the end, the only benefit is it gives you a baseline for your height.solid anecdotal evidence in here. you have me convinced that it is useless
It even states that the calculator isn't perfect for athletic types.
I just think resting heart rate is a more useful tool.
I'd be concerned if my rHR were over 100, while between 60-80 is fine.
This isn't an area where extreme low scores win (although the last time I measured mine it was 41).
Not too difficult or complex to simply check your rHR when you wake up. If you're overweight with a high rHR, you probably need to add cardio after seeing a doctor.I'm not sure how HR would be incorporated.
Yeah it needs to be something that can be done as part of your typical 12-15 min visit with a PCP. And most practitioners would definitely take the whole picture into account (ie they aren't going to be recommending Bariatric surgery to the "obese" nfl running back). However, I think that our average high BMI fbg is closer in physique to Fred Flintstone than Fred Jackson...Well yes. There are plenty of better measurements to take. But BMI is an easy, quick and dirty measurement that is sufficient for a huge percentage of the population. Nobody has stated that it is perfect.Body fat %, not bmi.
I agree with this but I have an extremely fat penis that throws everything off.Body fat %, not bmi.