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maybe some moms just want their bodies back? Waking up every two-three hours after carrying a baby to term and giving birth to it is an unbelievable undertaking, lets cut a little slack to those that forgo breastfeeding because they just don't want to do it. Much like the abortion debate, it's way too easy for men to opine harshly about a subject when they don't have to bear the direct consequences.
The thread started off with the moops being a judgmental #####. Otis came in a little later.
How many books did you read?
Yes but not want you thinks its for. It's a euphemism for "get torn to shreds by a very smart woman who knows her ####""debate" = euphemism?Umm, I keep saying it because the bolded part of your statement if 100% wrong. I get that 99% of the world thinks breastfeeding is probably good for a child. That's just common sense. But there is no agreement that NOT breastfeeding is HARMFUL or NEGATIVE to a child, and further no agreement on what specific harm is posed to a child by not breast-feeding.If you want to debate the fact that no studies on this subject have established that you can debate my sis, who will explain how there is no evidence on this subject anywhere no matter how many "studies" have been conducted.You keeo saying this but study after study show otherwise. Yes, they can't account for every factor that goes into a child's development, but seriously, it is fairly well established by 99% of the world's experts that there are indeed benefits for both the mother and child.So I guess we're all just agreeing not to acknowledge that no benefits of breast-feeding have ever been proven at all? Seriously, not a single one beyond the first two weeks of infancy.
I mentioned that a few pages back. You must have missed it with all your self absorbed ranting.
You're pretty upset about this huh.
Did I sleep with your sister or something? You seem to follow me around a little bit these days.
Any woman who breastfeeds her child past the age where he/she can ask for it with words deserves a fate worse than breast cancer.
My wife didn't want to breastfeed. Should I have forced her to, for her own sake?
Great posting. That is SUPER creepy.
No. You just seem to be the bizarro Idiot Boxer.
Wait, I know: it's because their kids turn into serial killers by 8 and kill the mothers before they can develop breast cancer.
My wife didn't need to give me a reason. She preferred not to, and it didn't matter much to me either way. That's all there is to it. In retrospect I'm glad she didn't.
sounds like my type of euphemism.Yes but not want you thinks its for. It's a euphemism for "get torn to shreds by a very smart woman who knows her ####""debate" = euphemism?Umm, I keep saying it because the bolded part of your statement if 100% wrong. I get that 99% of the world thinks breastfeeding is probably good for a child. That's just common sense. But there is no agreement that NOT breastfeeding is HARMFUL or NEGATIVE to a child, and further no agreement on what specific harm is posed to a child by not breast-feeding.If you want to debate the fact that no studies on this subject have established that you can debate my sis, who will explain how there is no evidence on this subject anywhere no matter how many "studies" have been conducted.You keeo saying this but study after study show otherwise. Yes, they can't account for every factor that goes into a child's development, but seriously, it is fairly well established by 99% of the world's experts that there are indeed benefits for both the mother and child.
eta: and my sex life 
I read two books and cry almost every day thinking about what terrible parents we were for depriving JR of the only option that would have allowed him to thrive. Never mind the fact that he's 99th percentile for both height and weight.I appreciate that O's showing a little spirit. It's a different Otis from the good old days, but at least he's showing a personality again.
Unacceptable if its the best thing for the child. A mom putting wanting her body back over whats best for her child is not fair game for criticism? At least admit its a selfish decision. No room for selfishness when you become a parent.
Why?
She knew you'd be grilled on this by strangers some day.
Knew the brents would be on the ride side of this one
This is the sanest thing O has had to say in here.Seriously though- what's with the willfully ignorant schtick? Books are bad? Info is bad? Just do this whole child-rearing thing on a whim... because, hey- something as old as birthing and child-raising can't have possibly been studied in any useful way? Or am I misreading what you're saying here?
Ha because of this thread
guh.
It's not a selfish decision if it won't make a difference for the child either way.Half the things you parentfreaks are doing for your children to help them may well be hurting them over the long haul. By the way, there's a much lower probability of your child being killed in a car accident if your child stays home vs. goes out shopping in the car with mom. Pretty selfish of mom to go shopping? She could just stay home I guess.
The reduced risk is likely caused by the reduced exposure to estrogen, and fat soluble pollutants and carcinogens are not stored as much in lactating breasts.The reduced risk for ovarian cancer is likely from the reduced number of ovulations
Really? You haven't spanked thethe entire time you've been a parent?
Thats got nothing to do with my kids.
Could be similar to the reason why masturbation decreases risk for testicular cancer.
It's a selfish decision if there is even a smidgen of a chance it makes a difference. Most medical sources will say it can make a difference. That should be enough.Parentfreak = Wanting to do whats best for your child? You are collapsing man
It's not willful ignorance. It's recognition of the fact that people have been making babies in the African bush for thousands of years. This isn't rocket science. But some parents these days border on insane with all of the information, activities, structure, and the TERROR they express over the slightest things (like, having a glass of red wine while pregnant, for instance). Of course I would never want to do something to harm my child. But that doesn't mean I am trying to genetically and environmentally engineer the perfect human. I guess I could play recordings all night in her crib of counting and the alphabet, so she's receiving maximum education? How else can I expect her to get into Harvard???I read one book on being a new dad. It was mostly drivel but I'm sure I must have learned one or two things from it. My wife and I didn't take a class on giving birth, mostly because, again, giving birth is something people did long before all those goofy new age classes. A buddy of mine once advised me "yeah, but you HAVE to take a class, because if something doesn't go right, or if the doctor wants to know if they should administer a certain kind of drug or not, you need to be informed." Guess what, I don't tell my mechanic what type of replacement parts or oil to use, and I'm sure as not about to decide what drugs should be administered to the two most important people in my life. Some things you leave to the professionals.
Except for the "in retrospect I'm glad she didn't." Who cares what a bunch of jagoffs on the internet think about your parenting choices? It's just as ridiculous to let someone's opposition to your honestly held belief cement that opinion as it is to change it because someone disagrees.
Yea, who wants to go into a medical procedure fully informed. That is for new age dolts.
OMG this thread is the everlasting gobstopper of the FFA. It just keeps getting better and better.
i "got" to use mine too in the long run. saved all my time off to stay home with the wife and kid both times.
That statement had nothing to do with this thread.
A rare agreement from me, bizarro IB.What a cluster #### of a thread I started here. Holy ####
I sure hope so
Come on now, people have been healing the sick for tens of thousands of years. Who needs to go to some fancy, new-age medical school to learn how to do that stuff?I can't believe effing Yale medical school is that low in the rankings.Who would have guessed???
A rare agreement from me, bizarro IB.What a cluster #### of a thread I started here. Holy ####
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I haven't (beleive it or not) read this whole thing. Glad to see you have kept your humor.
