buck56
Footballguy
Bishop will be a 3 down MLB for the Vikings, if healthy, they didnt sign him to play out of position.
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
people keep quoting 2011, that was before a serious injury. Just saying its not a given he'll be a 3 downer and Erin will be coming off the field.
Gary Davenport
Footballguy
I agree it's not set in stone, but if Bishop's as healthy as he says he is Henderson's likely the odd man out.
If you missed the window to trade Bishop post injury and pre IR last year now is the time to move him.
jhexel
Footballguy
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/25/desmond-bishop-will-open-camp-on-the-outside-for-vikings/
When the Vikings signed linebacker Desmond Bishop, it was widely assumed he’d battle with Erin Henderson for the middle linbacker position. Bishop then told PFT Live that he could play outside or inside.
On Thursday, coach Leslie Frazier told reporters that Bishop will begin on the outside.
According to Ben Goessling of the St. Paul Pioneer Press, Frazier explained that the Vikings like Bishop’s blitzing skills.
If he wins the job, it’ll likely be Chad Greenway on the weak side, Bishop on the strong side, and Henderson in the middle.
Bishop was cut by the Packers late in the offseason program, after suffering a preseason hamstring tear in 2012. He missed all of the season.
What would this potentially do for Bishop's value? I'd imagine it would take a bit of a hit - no?
When the Vikings signed linebacker Desmond Bishop, it was widely assumed he’d battle with Erin Henderson for the middle linbacker position. Bishop then told PFT Live that he could play outside or inside.
On Thursday, coach Leslie Frazier told reporters that Bishop will begin on the outside.
According to Ben Goessling of the St. Paul Pioneer Press, Frazier explained that the Vikings like Bishop’s blitzing skills.
If he wins the job, it’ll likely be Chad Greenway on the weak side, Bishop on the strong side, and Henderson in the middle.
Bishop was cut by the Packers late in the offseason program, after suffering a preseason hamstring tear in 2012. He missed all of the season.
What would this potentially do for Bishop's value? I'd imagine it would take a bit of a hit - no?
I have a hard time believing that they would move Greenway to weak side. If they do, it could be a positive for him, and it would not necessarily be bad for Bishop to land on the strong side in this scheme either. Greenway has been making hay from that spot for a long time.
That said, I don't believe Bishop is a strong side backer. So until I see him line up somewhere besides middle or weak side, I'm not buying it. In the end it all comes down to who gets the sub package snaps anyway. I will be surprised if a healthy Bishop is not that guy. Can't wait to see if he passes the eyeball test.
That said, I don't believe Bishop is a strong side backer. So until I see him line up somewhere besides middle or weak side, I'm not buying it. In the end it all comes down to who gets the sub package snaps anyway. I will be surprised if a healthy Bishop is not that guy. Can't wait to see if he passes the eyeball test.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I like Erin but I don't see this staying
midnight_green81
Footballguy
Does anyone have info regarding his situation now that they have played on pre-season game? Is he playing on nickel or it's Henderson/Greenway there?
massraider
Footballguy
He left with a pulled groin.
Then this:
http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/219344421.html
He's dead to me.
thedudesdude
Footballguy
Bishop recorded 9 solos in preseason game #3. I didn't watch the game but anybody with thoughts on what this does for his value this year? Still holding out hope for MLB?
Young 8
Footballguy
Henderson, Greenway & Mitchell were the starters last night
Bishop played more snaps than Mitchell but I suppose against the Niners 2nd unit
BuzzCagney
Footballguy
Observation deck: Vikings-49ers
As promised, Desmond Bishop got plenty of work, playing with the Vikings' first-team defense in the first half and remaining in the game with the No. 2 defense in the second half. He gave up a catch to Moore when Kaepernick stepped out of the pocket and drew Bishop toward the line of scrimmage, but Bishop stopped Kendall Hunter for a loss and made a nice open-field tackle of D.J. Harper in the fourth quarter. Though he's still struggling somewhat in pass coverage, Bishop can help the Vikings' run defense, and he looked more assertive Sunday than he did against Buffalo.
As promised, Desmond Bishop got plenty of work, playing with the Vikings' first-team defense in the first half and remaining in the game with the No. 2 defense in the second half. He gave up a catch to Moore when Kaepernick stepped out of the pocket and drew Bishop toward the line of scrimmage, but Bishop stopped Kendall Hunter for a loss and made a nice open-field tackle of D.J. Harper in the fourth quarter. Though he's still struggling somewhat in pass coverage, Bishop can help the Vikings' run defense, and he looked more assertive Sunday than he did against Buffalo.
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Qtip Callahan
Footballguy
Thx Buzz. I drafted him as my LB5 yesterday in a 14 team league. He was so good to me in the past, and I still maintain he's a pretty instinctive ILB. I do worry about the injuries affecting his pass coverage (and overall game), but 9 solo's and first-team defense work is enough for me to take a late flyer on him.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
thedudesdude
Footballguy
not to mention Marvin Mitchell posted a solid goose egg in week #1. You have to think that Bishop isn't completely healed but when he is he is better than either of the 2 starting options now by a long shot.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
Beefeaters
Footballguy
What is funny (sad funny) is that Henderson is in the Middle not because of what he CAN do, but because of what he CANNOT do. Henderson has a lot of trouble shedding blocks, so they thought he would be most effective in the Middle compared to how he would fare on the edges. So, it's not as if he has earned teh spot with his linebacking ability... instead he is there because he isn't good enough to stay outside. Poor coaching decisions being made.
massraider
Footballguy
Henderson not being a stud in his first game as MLB doesn't change the fact that Bishop can't beat out Mitchell. Stick a fork in Bishop.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
still had 11 tackles and a INT
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I think the int was batted into his arms, and tackles are great for fantasy, but not always a good measure of what the guy's doing on the field -- the point being, if he kind of sux at his job he might have a tenuous hold on it.
lord_helmet
Footballguy
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
the phoenix rises.............
Illegal Pants Downfield
Footballguy
Cardinals signed ILB Desmond Bishop, formerly of the Vikings.
He's their latest inside linebacker flier after Ernie Sims predictably didn't pan out. Bishop, 30, is several years removed from his prime, but is a more natural fit at ILB in Arizona's 3-4 than Sims ever possibly could have been. Aug 14 - 11:01 AM
Source: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
He's their latest inside linebacker flier after Ernie Sims predictably didn't pan out. Bishop, 30, is several years removed from his prime, but is a more natural fit at ILB in Arizona's 3-4 than Sims ever possibly could have been. Aug 14 - 11:01 AM
Source: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
took a chance on him in two of my deep dynasty leagues where I am thin at LB
Mistabishi
Footballguy
Demens had 4 solos last night but don't know his snap breakdown just yet.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
the eagle has flown the coop
sounds like good news for minter.
I suppose bishop could be re-signed in a week.
sounds like good news for minter.
I suppose bishop could be re-signed in a week.
Papa John's
Footballguy
Yeah. Figure once they don't have to guarantee the contract he pops up somewhere.
Papa John's
Footballguy
With all the ILB injuries, and no signing ... Is he done?
He has had a number of tryouts over the past couple weeks with nothing to show for it. I figure if he had anything left in the tank he would have been signed.
He has had a number of tryouts over the past couple weeks with nothing to show for it. I figure if he had anything left in the tank he would have been signed.
