I don't think F & L has downgraded VJAX (he had him #4 post draft) & I think you said you moved him from #4 to #6, a downgrade yes, but still pretty darn high in the entire scheme of things.
And again, "if they change at all" or very/very/very/very slowly (& that not really even being a possibility for you to consider IMO), is where we disagree on Fitz.
Again, I RESPECT your work on this board and in this thread a lot (& F&L's too - A LOT). I just think sometimes (& we are ALL guilty of it) we lock into certain players and nothing really will change our minds. I think it is good to see how unchallengeable someones opinion of a certain player is because that may help me (& the other members here) decide how we evaluate said player. FWIW, I think we disagree a lot more on VJAX's possible change in status than Fitzs' because I think Fitz is much more talented than VJAX. I agree, by the way, that Fitz is the most talented WR in the NFL but I am concerned with whether Leinart can throw for 3500 yards as you stated in the other Fitz thread & therefore my #'s would be down somewhat for all the rec. options in ARZ this year.
Either way, I appreciate the back & forth and hope you are not taking it at all personally, because I know it may seem as if I am purposefully picking on YOU. That is not the case AT ALL. It just so happens that 3 of the players (VJAX/Stewart/Fitz-somewhat, I own him on 3 teams by the way) I seem to be "struggling" with ranking this year for DYNASTY with PLAYERS around them (not whether or not they are talented) are three who YOU are the biggest supporters of.
Pretty sure F&L has said that he's downgraded VJax in the month and a half since the WR rankings were posted. The difference between me/F&L and most other people, though, is we're downgrading him because of the holdout and not because of "knucklehead factor". I've posted at least a half dozen times why I don't consider VJax a knucklehead. F&L has, as well. The "knucklehead" stuff, therefore, didn't warrant much of a change in my rankings. Now that he's talking about missing serious time to holdout? Yeah, he's moving down my rankings. He's #6 right now. As the season approaches, if the holdout talk is still holding strong, he'll fall further (right now, as F&L is fond of saying... "it's June"). Not too terrible far, though. I mean, Brandon Marshall has every red flag imaginable, but he's still sitting right on the cusp of my top 10. That sort of puts a limit on how far VJax can slide, since he has, in my opinion, less risk and more talent.I can get why someone might be scared on Fitz, but you agree that he's the most talented receiver in the league. If I'm placing bets, I'm betting on talent. Imagine how bad the guy who sold low on Randy Moss felt. Imagine how bad the guy who sold low on Marvin Harrison when he turned 30 felt. Imagine how bad the guy who sold low on Terrell Owens when he was forcing trades felt. Or the guy who sold low on Ray Rice because McGahee was hogging reps. Or the guy who sold low on Sidney Rice because he grew impatient. Or the guy who sold low on Rashard Mendenhall after 20 career carries. In my opinion, that's how the guys who sell low on Larry Fitzgerald or Jonathan Stewart or Vincent Jackson are going to feel in a couple of years.
I've said in the past that there are two fundamental ways to run a dynasty squad. The first is to run it like a stock market, always trying to buy low and sell high, trying to anticipate shifts in the market and act preemptively to make a profit. There's nothing wrong with that method. Lots of people have a lot of success with that method. That's not how I run my team, though. "Stock Market" owners will have rankings that fluctuate wildly from week to week, creating dramatic shifts in response to the smallest of news blips. Personally, I try to run my team the second way- acquire talent, hold talent, accumulate talent. My rankings tend to be much, much more resistant to change. They tend to be much more inert. 90% of the disagreements I get into in this thread wind up being a result of how inert my rankings are. Which I get and respect- lots of people have had success with very flexible rankings and so they see inert rankings and think they're "wrong". They aren't necessarily wrong, though- it's just a different way of doing things.
For a post I made on "rankings inertia",
click here. It should do a lot to sum up the subject.
The only limitation my roster has (these are absolutely huge rosters btw) is the lack of RB's. Rosters are so big that I don't see that as a major problem. I have Reggie Bush and a host of guys who can get me decent points.Good rb's come out of nowhere. I've rarely ever had a problem acquiring good RB's during the season. Be it waivers or trades, they seem easy to get, and I certainly have the opportunity to go get them.
Sounds like Shaun Smith. Thanks for posting, Instinctive.
I think AP had back issues last year. It didn't help that he had two guards playing injured and a center who couldn't run block.Top 5 in talent, I think, is AP, CJ2K, S-Jax, Stewart, MJD
Hard to believe this is even a question.
Hard to believe this is even a question.
