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Romo easily.
Fantasy = RomoReality = Eli
No, but I don't dislike them.Except Playoff days.Giant fan?
Ok, we agree on something.Dude where will you be today.I'm already in City, I need to get drunk.
Damn, so you're always this obnoxious?I'd take Romo. Eli is a solid QB, but Romo is more of a play maker.Except Playoff days.
Yep, I said this weeks ago. Now more will agree.It's the way it is. But Romo has more weapons and still lost.To Eli's Giants. Eli's only INT in playoffs was a dropped pass.Eli is the pick over Romo.Put TO on the Giants.Damn, so you're always this obnoxious?I'd take Romo. Eli is a solid QB, but Romo is more of a play maker.Except Playoff days.
Bingo we have a winner.Romo is the it guy. Eli just gets it done.
I'll be at City Hall by 1 today. Should be nuts.Ok, we agree on something.Dude where will you be today.I'm already in City, I need to get drunk.
That is so funny because that's always been Eli's perceived problem. Half way through this year his own GM called him skittish. It's amazing how different players are perceived when their line solidifies and picks up blitz's.
Fantasy wise Romo. Real life yes Eli.Manning is a winner. Romo may be, but He's not yet. So the answer is Eli. Giant fan?
Yep, took off today. Anyways.I'll be at City Hall by 1 today. Should be nuts.Ok, we agree on something.Dude where will you be today.I'm already in City, I need to get drunk.
I have to wear a Shockey's jersey, that was my only bet.So not too bad. It was either Shockey or Plax. jersey. Easy choice. 
So by your theory Eli is better then Brady because clearly Brady has more weapons. Romo's defense, OL, and Crayton let him down Vs/ the Giants. Could he have played better? Sure. He played better this year then the year before. I suspect he plays even better this upcoming year.Yep, I said this weeks ago. Now more will agree.It's the way it is. But Romo has more weapons and still lost.To Eli's Giants. Eli's only INT in playoffs was a dropped pass.Eli is the pick over Romo.Put TO on the Giants.Damn, so you're always this obnoxious?I'd take Romo. Eli is a solid QB, but Romo is more of a play maker.Except Playoff days.
No, I'm still not a Giant fan. So if Brady completes the 80 yard bomb to Moss, is Romo the right answer? If Favre doesn't throw an INT in OT and goes down and scores, is Romo the right answer?
Yep, Brady was always loaded with weapons at wr.Branch,Troy Brown. Dude NO. But do know you facts.So by your theory Eli is better then Brady because clearly Brady has more weapons. Romo's defense, OL, and Crayton let him down Vs/ the Giants. Could he have played better? Sure. He played better this year then the year before. I suspect he plays even better this upcoming year.Yep, I said this weeks ago. Now more will agree.It's the way it is. But Romo has more weapons and still lost.To Eli's Giants. Eli's only INT in playoffs was a dropped pass.Eli is the pick over Romo.Put TO on the Giants.Damn, so you're always this obnoxious?I'd take Romo. Eli is a solid QB, but Romo is more of a play maker.Except Playoff days.Giant fan?
I'll look for the Shockey jersey.Yep, took off today. Anyways.I'll be at City Hall by 1 today. Should be nuts.Ok, we agree on something.Dude where will you be today.I'm already in City, I need to get drunk.
NO,NO,that was the right read and a good throw by Favre.
Dude look back I said this weeks ago. It's just knowing the game.Little things like that.
If TO is healthy this thread doesn't exist. If Dallas's line didn't collapse against the Giants pass rush in the 2nd half this thread doesn't exist. If Favre doesn't throw an INT in OT and they kick a FG this thread doesn't exist.
My friends will have on Plax. and S.Smith jersey.3 guys over 6 feet, wont be hard to find us.Friend said I will also have a banner, 'NE sucks'I'll look for the Shockey jersey.Yep, took off today. Anyways.I'll be at City Hall by 1 today. Should be nuts.Ok, we agree on something.Dude where will you be today.I'm already in City, I need to get drunk.
My friends will have on Plax. and S.Smith jersey.3 guys over 6 feet, wont be hard to find us.I'll look for the Shockey jersey.Yep, took off today. Anyways.I'll be at City Hall by 1 today. Should be nuts.Ok, we agree on something.Dude where will you be today.
I'm already in City, I need to get drunk.
So not too bad. It was either Shockey or Plax. jersey. Easy choice.
Friend said I will also have a banner, 'NE sucks'
No, but Brady did have better defenses then both Romo and Eli in his other super Bowl runs. You act as if Manning doesn't have weapons. Plax, Shockey (Or Boss if you prefer) Toomer has had a rough year dropping a lot of balls but he's a very good veteran. In fact I would even argue that Romo and Eli have roughly equal talent on O.J.Jones, M. Barber = Jacobs/Ward/BradshawOwens > Plax (But Plax has better hands by far)Crayton < ToomerWitten > Shockey or BossYep, Brady was always loaded with weapons at wr.Branch,Troy Brown. Dude NO. But do know you facts.So by your theory Eli is better then Brady because clearly Brady has more weapons. Romo's defense, OL, and Crayton let him down Vs/ the Giants. Could he have played better? Sure. He played better this year then the year before. I suspect he plays even better this upcoming year.Yep, I said this weeks ago. Now more will agree.It's the way it is. But Romo has more weapons and still lost.To Eli's Giants. Eli's only INT in playoffs was a dropped pass.Eli is the pick over Romo.Put TO on the Giants.Damn, so you're always this obnoxious?I'd take Romo. Eli is a solid QB, but Romo is more of a play maker.Except Playoff days.
Damning praise, that.
That's probably the one and only time anyone will EVER accuse Burress of having "better hands" than *insert player name here*.You're right, though....but then a cardboard box on wheels probably has better hands than TO. Or at least comparable. Throw to the box(or TO) enough and eventually you'll get a couple balls to stay "in the basket."
Two weeks is one thing. Being the team's MVP for a four week playoff run is another thing altogether.You talk about FF'ers, there has been so much uncalled for Eli hate over the past few years, that far overcompensates for over reacting over the past month.Fantasy I take Romo. Real life, it's now Eli. Eli has PROVEN that he can not only play in the playoffs, but he can play well. Eli was as much a reason as the defense for winning this Super Bowl. Very few mistakes, some great throws, some fantastic clutch play and the ability to handle pressure - figuratively and literally.Romo might be more exciting to watch, but he has not proven himself a true winner yet.
First, TO was very close to 100% in that game. Sour grapes? The cowboys lost. Its our super bowl. Make excuses next year.Second, Dallas line collapsed because the Giants D stepped up and was dominating. If Tynes didnt choke on two kicks, you would have Favre with any chance at all in OT.Love people's selective memories here. What it comes down to, is scoreboard and trophy. We have it. All y'all don't. You can try next year.
This is the right answer.FWIW, I have posted all season that guys like Ben R, Romo and Eli are all in the same bucket or Tier. To me, there's very little difference in their play if you evaluate them.I think with what we saw in the playoffs this season, you now have to give the edge to Eli Manning. Now, I may believe Tony Romo has that in him, but if you're being objective, you give the edge to Eli even if I do believe Romo has the ability to lead a team to the SB.BTW, a better question is really who would you rather have:Ben Rothlesberger or Eli ManningBoth are young, both came out of the same draft and both have 1 SB ring. The Tony Romo thing is really just to stir up the Cowboy fans IMO......but we have a thick skin and it'll take better bait to get us to bite.
I say wait until next year when the Giants get every teams "best game" because they know they are playing against the SB champs and will step up their game...that's when we will see how good Eli really is.The correct answer here is Big Ben without a doubt...you guys can have Eli I'll take the real athlete...
Ive soured a bit on Roeths, but it's close. Close enough that my Giants-fandom will not let me take Roeths over Eli although I can absolutely see a rationale for it. The fact is, both Roeths and Romo should put up better career numbers, but Eli has that something special in terms of coming from behind and just winning the game. Something overlooked in these circles especially since FF is just numbers based, and the postseason doesnt mean a thing.
This I dont get. How can it "not even be close" when Eli has PROVEN he can be an integral player on a Super Bowl winning team? That is not to say Romo cant, but he certainly has not shown that he can while Eli has. And don't give me Dilfer who was there to not screw up on a team with one of the top 5 defenses ever and a fantastic running game to complement that defense... Dilfer was a caretaker while Eli was a leader and key playmaker - on a Super Bowl winning team!How that carries no weight I dont know.
I have no horse in this race. I was rooting for the Giants big time and am absolutely thrilled that they won the game. The fact that he had a good 4 game run does not change his body of work over his career. Take a look at his 6 games before this run. His own GM was calling him skittish in the papers. Yes he played well, the defense played unreal, their line was unreal, Bradshaw played great, Steve Smith played well, Boss played well, Plax was excellent, their special teams were great. If one of these ingredients was lacking Manning isn't on the podium. They won as a TEAM and the fact that their TEAM won doesn't all the sudden make Manning a great QB. If somehow Brady completes that 80 yard bomb and the Pats go onto to score and win the game, does that make Manning less of a QB? The fact that the defense made a good play and knocked it down, and the Giants win, that makes Manning a better QB since they won?I was on the other side of this argument several years ago when his older brother couldn't "win the big one". I argued that he was a great QB despite not winning "the big one". We see how that worked out...
He's wrong.....don't get frustrated over it. I can say Isiah Thomas was better than Michael Jordan but sometimes an opinion is just wrong.To say Romo is in some other class than Eli Manning after what we just saw is wrong, plain and simple.
You're OBVIOUSLY a homer and that's fine.Im not the guy who you responded to earlier, and I don't have any sour grapes towards the Giants for my Cowboys. That being said, Please detach yourself from Eli's nuts.
First, I am clear that the Giants are my team.That said, I am quite critical of my home teams, Eli included.I never said the Giants were a "great team"
It seems to me that some people can't understand that he's both. He's a little inconsistent but as he matures, the inconsistency subsides a little bit and you see more of the polished QB.Even players like Brett Farve started off their careers very rocky, very inconsistent and at times you still see flashes of those inconsistencies but more often you'd see what makes them great.Eli Manning will have bad games again. To act like he won't ever throw a pick in a tough situation is silly.....but he can also do what we just saw and is capable of doing it again.Who are we gonna see? The bad Eli, the good Eli. The bad Romo or the good Romo.I'd expect to see more good than bad because he has come into his own.
Didn't Eli lose in the playoffs in the first round in '05 and '06? Romo lost his 2 playoff games as well. Maybe Romo is super MVP next year....
Yes. But Eli then lead his team to the SB and he was by far the best offensive player throughout that span.If Romo does the same, or even comes close, then it's a different discussion.As I noted, I dont think Eli will ever be in the mold of the uber productive QBs. He wont look pretty. He will have some very bad games when his accuracy is off (god knows Favre has had his share of AWFUL games and some consider him the greatest ever, although I do not at all). But when the game is on the line, Eli has a proven track record of getting his #### together and leading his team to wins... and this year he parlayed that ability into HUGE drives against the Cowboys (before the half when momentum was slipping away), against Green Bay (on a number of occasions, although his kicker didnt help the cause origionally) and in the Superbowl with two 80 yard drives to take the lead in the 4th.As the poster said above, Eli is BOTH the inconsistent guy that will have you wondering wtf is up, and ALSO the QB whom in crunch time just finds a way to get it done. I'd take that over 4000 yards and 30 TDs anyday.
I agree with this.
You can legitimately say you want Romo.You can NOT legitimately say Eli did not lead his team anywhere. That is objectively and clearly wrong. Whether it is your fandom in your way or what I can't say - but watching the last month, the clutch play, Eli's calm in the huddle, and what everyone close to the team - objective reporters and non objective observers and teamates alike - will attest to how Eli was a true leader in this run.BTW, ONE good play in the SB? You are only hurting your credibility. The tyree TD was a perfect pass... there were many other passes similar to that (including Boss) that had to be thrown perfectly or an INT could have resulted. So, either you don't understand football, did not watch the playoffs, certainly did not watch (or understand what happened in) the Super Bowl, or for some reason you are biased so as not to see what was pretty damn apparant.That doesnt mean Eli will outperform Romo from here out... but to dismiss what Eli did during the past month is to ignore reality.One good play.
Please.
