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[Righetti]

Hypothetical

One NFL team which played on Thursday trades their running back on Friday morning to a team that has a Monday night game. This player can now play in two games in a FF week, do you get points for both games???

 

[Captain Hook]

HEDOUBLEHOCKEYSTICKS YES

 

[General Tso]

Hypothetical

One NFL team which played on Thursday trades their running back on Friday morning to a team that has a Monday night game. This player can now play in two games in a FF week, do you get points for both games???

Fees up. You were high when you thought of this.

 

[thatguy]

Can trades occur once the week's games have started?

 

[thatguy]

In other words, is this hypothetical even possible?

 

[mrbigg]

In other words, is this hypothetical even possible?

survey says

*ding*

NO

 

[thatguy]

If so, interesting question. But somehow I doubt you get points for both games. If you originally started him playing for team A against team B, then that is where is slotted to play. The next game, team C against team D, is a different lineup slot, so to speak. But perhaps you have another player going in the later game, and want to insert the newly acquired player into that slot instead... That would be interesting indeed.

 

[snellman]

Moss did this when NE traded him to Minnesota if I remember right.

ETA: Maybe NE was on a bye that week.

 

[top dog]

Don't they earn game checks? Think this would result in more pay (#of games) he could earn. I wouldn't think the union would go for that.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Deion Sanders scored for two fantasy teams in one week, although one team was the Atlanta Braves.

 

[Concept Coop]

Moss did this when NE traded him to Minnesota if I remember right.

ETA: Maybe NE was on a bye that week.

Yes. This shows two week 4 values:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00/gamelog//

 

[SengerCJ]

Moss did this when NE traded him to Minnesota if I remember right.

ETA: Maybe NE was on a bye that week.

Yes. This shows two week 4 values:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00/gamelog//

The Vikings were on a bye week 4. "Game 4" is week 5 but their 4th game.

 

[Van Dyman]

Moss did this when NE traded him to Minnesota if I remember right.

ETA: Maybe NE was on a bye that week.

Yes. This shows two week 4 values:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00/gamelog//

The Vikings were on a bye week 4. "Game 4" is week 5 but their 4th game.

Right. The two "game 4" listings are a week apart. Moss played 17 games in 17 weeks, so never had 2 games in one week. But...good memory and good try. I like it.

For the hypothetical situation, he should get points from both games. It would be interesting to ask ESPN, Yahoo, CBS, etc. how their sites would handle that situation.

 

[The General]

Ask this guy he looks smart: Genius

 

[LargeMouthBass]

REALLY? C'MON MAN!!!

 

[The Duff Man]

Wait....wait........WAIT!

What if the entire D was traded? Double Ds!!

I just blew......my own mind....

 

[bleachercreacher]

Moss did this when NE traded him to Minnesota if I remember right.

ETA: Maybe NE was on a bye that week.

Yes. This shows two week 4 values:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00/gamelog//

Moss played on Monday night against Miami with New England, and then was traded the following Tuesday to Minnesota. I was at the Monday night game and heard the news on the way home that week, or I never would've remembered.

 

[trader jake]

I felt this way watching Jamaal Charles play last night. :beast:

 

[snellman]

Moss did this when NE traded him to Minnesota if I remember right.

ETA: Maybe NE was on a bye that week.

Yes. This shows two week 4 values:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00/gamelog//

Moss played on Monday night against Miami with New England, and then was traded the following Tuesday to Minnesota. I was at the Monday night game and heard the news on the way home that week, or I never would've remembered.

Now that I think of it, that is correct. Moss never had a "bye" week that year even though by the end of the season he really wasn't worth rostering. He was traded to Minn after their bye week. so he played for NE in week 4 and MN in week 5.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

i think that there was a thread about this before. i feel like there was a player who somehow did it.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=671966

here's the thread, but no answers.

 

[craxie]

Jerry Rice also played 17 games in 2004

 

[Ace zero1]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=671966

here's the thread, but no answers.

hahahhahahaa

 

[Righetti]

Harvin got the opposite of this

 

[Irish Chaos]

^^ Better question,

What happens if the commissioner is a #### and forces someone to keep harvin in the lineup because he technically played for the jets last night?

 

[cstu]

^^ Better question,

What happens if the commissioner is a #### and forces someone to keep harvin in the lineup because he technically played for the jets last night?

 

[whiskey7]

In my leagues, a player's status locks at gametime of his team's game. So whether he's starting or on a bench, that's where he stays through the end of the scoring period. Since the Jets played last night and Harvin was traded to them today, those owners who have him are SOL for this week.

 

[Irish Chaos]

^^ Better question,

What happens if the commissioner is a #### and forces someone to keep harvin in the lineup because he technically played for the jets last night?

Hehe, I dont own Harvin anywhere, just trying to stir the pot lolz.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

In my leagues, a player's status locks at gametime of his team's game. So whether he's starting or on a bench, that's where he stays through the end of the scoring period. Since the Jets played last night and Harvin was traded to them today, those owners who have him are SOL for this week.

Oh wow.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Any commissioner that forces an owner to keep Harvin in their starting lineup this week has no business being a commissioner.

 

[Joe Summer]

In my leagues, a player's status locks at gametime of his team's game. So whether he's starting or on a bench, that's where he stays through the end of the scoring period. Since the Jets played last night and Harvin was traded to them today, those owners who have him are SOL for this week.

A player's status locks at gametime of HIS TEAM'S GAME.Since Harvin was not a member of the Jets yesterday, his status should not have locked then or now.

 

[whiskey7]

In my leagues, a player's status locks at gametime of his team's game. So whether he's starting or on a bench, that's where he stays through the end of the scoring period. Since the Jets played last night and Harvin was traded to them today, those owners who have him are SOL for this week.

A player's status locks at gametime of HIS TEAM'S GAME.Since Harvin was not a member of the Jets yesterday, his status should not have locked then or now.

I am just going by the way the rule is written in the leagues I play in. Once Harvin was traded, the Jets became his team and they already played this week. His status should lock (as set) at the time of the trade according to the rule. Now, as others have said, this is an unusual case and I would not be opposed to the commissioner manually overriding MFL and letting the Harvin owner bench him for another player. There is no provision in the rules, though, so it will be interesting to see what happens. Especially in one league where the commish is the Harvin owner and has him in his starting lineup.

 

[BassNBrew]

In my leagues, a player's status locks at gametime of his team's game. So whether he's starting or on a bench, that's where he stays through the end of the scoring period. Since the Jets played last night and Harvin was traded to them today, those owners who have him are SOL for this week.

A player's status locks at gametime of HIS TEAM'S GAME.Since Harvin was not a member of the Jets yesterday, his status should not have locked then or now.

I am just going by the way the rule is written in the leagues I play in. Once Harvin was traded, the Jets became his team and they already played this week. His status should lock (as set) at the time of the trade according to the rule. Now, as others have said, this is an unusual case and I would not be opposed to the commissioner manually overriding MFL and letting the Harvin owner bench him for another player. There is no provision in the rules, though, so it will be interesting to see what happens. Especially in one league where the commish is the Harvin owner and has him in his starting lineup.

MFL hasn't moved him. They probably won't until after Seattle plays the Rams.

 

[georg013]

In my leagues, a player's status locks at gametime of his team's game. So whether he's starting or on a bench, that's where he stays through the end of the scoring period. Since the Jets played last night and Harvin was traded to them today, those owners who have him are SOL for this week.

A player's status locks at gametime of HIS TEAM'S GAME.Since Harvin was not a member of the Jets yesterday, his status should not have locked then or now.

I am just going by the way the rule is written in the leagues I play in. Once Harvin was traded, the Jets became his team and they already played this week. His status should lock (as set) at the time of the trade according to the rule. Now, as others have said, this is an unusual case and I would not be opposed to the commissioner manually overriding MFL and letting the Harvin owner bench him for another player. There is no provision in the rules, though, so it will be interesting to see what happens. Especially in one league where the commish is the Harvin owner and has him in his starting lineup.

MFL hasn't moved him. They probably won't until after Seattle plays the Rams.

Smart of them. Lots of ##### bag commissioners chomping at the bit to force some schmuck to take a fat zero because they weren't able to predict the future. The things people will do for a win...

 

[Joe Summer]

In my leagues, a player's status locks at gametime of his team's game. So whether he's starting or on a bench, that's where he stays through the end of the scoring period. Since the Jets played last night and Harvin was traded to them today, those owners who have him are SOL for this week.

A player's status locks at gametime of HIS TEAM'S GAME.Since Harvin was not a member of the Jets yesterday, his status should not have locked then or now.

I am just going by the way the rule is written in the leagues I play in.

Then you're either not following your own rules, or you're not giving us all the information.

According to what you've said, a player's status locks at gametime of his team's game, right? It doesn't lock before gametime, or during the game, or after the game. It only locks at gametime. All members of the Jets were locked at 8:25 Thursday night.

Was Harvin a member of the Jets at 8:25 Thursday night? No. Therefore, his status cannot be locked.

It doesn't matter if Harvin joined the Jets AFTER 8:25, because your rules don't account for that scenario. Your rules only account for Harvin's status at gametime.

 

[proninja]

Harvin isn't even a jet until he passes a physical. Come on.

 

[joey]

In my leagues, a player's status locks at gametime of his team's game. So whether he's starting or on a bench, that's where he stays through the end of the scoring period. Since the Jets played last night and Harvin was traded to them today, those owners who have him are SOL for this week.

A player's status locks at gametime of HIS TEAM'S GAME.Since Harvin was not a member of the Jets yesterday, his status should not have locked then or now.

I am just going by the way the rule is written in the leagues I play in. Once Harvin was traded, the Jets became his team and they already played this week. His status should lock (as set) at the time of the trade according to the rule. Now, as others have said, this is an unusual case and I would not be opposed to the commissioner manually overriding MFL and letting the Harvin owner bench him for another player. There is no provision in the rules, though, so it will be interesting to see what happens. Especially in one league where the commish is the Harvin owner and has him in his starting lineup.

MFL hasn't moved him. They probably won't until after Seattle plays the Rams.

Yahoo hasn't moved him either and even had a site-ide note saying that they were intentionally keeping him on Sea for the weekend allowing owners to swap him out before Seatlle's Sunday game.

 

[Apple Jack]

Any commissioner that forces an owner to keep Harvin in their starting lineup this week has no business being a commissioner.

Yep. That is really dumb.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Any commissioner that forces an owner to keep Harvin in their starting lineup this week has no business being a commissioner.

+1000

Every league needs some version of this...

These rules are intended to be comprehensive, but there are inevitably times when something comes up not covered in the rules. In that event, the Commissioner will consult with people in the league and outsiders (if necessary) and make a ruling in the best interest of the league.

 

[TinHat]

Any commissioner that forces an owner to keep Harvin in their starting lineup this week has no business being a commissioner.If a league has a rule that say all players lock in on Thursday (not a rule I like, but...z0

If a league has a rule that locks the whole roster at the start of the Thursday game (not one I like, but...), then tough....

Otherwise, since Harvin was not a Jet when the game started, then I'd have to say you could bench him...

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

If a league has a rule that locks the whole roster at the start of the Thursday game (not one I like, but...), then tough....

The point of rules isn't to create opportunities to screw players.

 

[zftcg]

Moss did this when NE traded him to Minnesota if I remember right.

ETA: Maybe NE was on a bye that week.

Yes. This shows two week 4 values:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00/gamelog//

Moss played on Monday night against Miami with New England, and then was traded the following Tuesday to Minnesota. I was at the Monday night game and heard the news on the way home that week, or I never would've remembered.

Now that I think of it, that is correct. Moss never had a "bye" week that year even though by the end of the season he really wasn't worth rostering. He was traded to Minn after their bye week. so he played for NE in week 4 and MN in week 5.

Except that Moss was waived by the Vikes and signed by the Titans before their bye week.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Any commissioner that forces an owner to keep Harvin in their starting lineup this week has no business being a commissioner.

+1000

Every league needs some version of this...

These rules are intended to be comprehensive, but there are inevitably times when something comes up not covered in the rules. In that event, the Commissioner will consult with people in the league and outsiders (if necessary) and make a ruling in the best interest of the league.

Opening a can of worms if you have that as a by law.