'Ministry of Pain said:
You are a good guy MOP but I wouldn't expect to say anything else.:shakeshead:
I didn't want to go deep into it, probably should have avoided the thread. There are certain QBs, some without rings that IMO still belong at the top. A lot of folks point to Montana, Brady, and Aikman and basically just say QB-multipke SB rings, best ever. And in here it only gets worse vs if I am in front of an actual media member having a drink in the boxcar discussing things. I don't want to argue with you because I also think you're a great guy, love posting back and forth especially the game day threads. I just question when people dismiss someone like Marino when IMO and based on every QB I have seen play the game, he was almost the best pure passer I have ever seen. I understand all of his records have been passed and I put others on his level, it's not like I put him on a pedestal that no one else has reached. But under 2:00, down a score, maybe no timeouts left, I dial up marino and wouldn't blink twice vs almost anyone. I have a few other QBs I put in his territory, guys like Brett Favre, Johnny Unitas, John Elway, the gunslingers and they played a brand of football that even today's QBs IMO don't measure up even though they may have higher stats. The dink and dunk, using the pas as a run instead of handing off, the gunslingers threw with a purpose to get the ball down the field, to strike and strike quickly, it just was a special era of football IMO. I never saw anyone with a quicker release, after JU I think Marino revolutionized the game, rewrote the book on the shotgun snap, and he made every WR/TE better who played around him, took guys with no athletic ability like Jim "Crash" Jensen and gave him a career. So back to Aikman...I respect what he accomplished, wished his career had not been cut short, but he had ridonkulous amounts of talent surrounding him at WR(Irvin), RB(Smith), TE(Novacek), OL(best ever for some), and a defense we could go on and on about. Is that Aikman's fault? No it is not but he did what was asked of him, he did it well, he reaped the rewards, the rings, the honors, props to him. That's about as best I can put it. Smith held out the first couple games in 1993? Dallas went 0-2 IIRC, JJ went to JJ and said "get 'er done". I think Aikman was instrumental in Dallas winning 3 Super Bowls but he had an awful lot of help along the way.